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Free will synergism Vs. Free Grace monergism
Posted : 12 Feb, 2011 06:54 PM

Free Will Synergism Vs. Free Grace Monergism



by John Hendryx







Synergists teach '... and as many as believed were ordained to eternal life.' but The Bible teaches 'AND AS MANY AS WERE ORDAINED TO ETERNAL LIFE BELIEVED.' (Acts 13:48)



Synergists teach that 'salvation depends on human will', but the Bible teaches that 'it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy." (Rom 9:16)



Synergists teach '...'no one knows the Father except those who choose the Son.' But the Bible teaches that 'no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him' (Matt 11:27) They are the ones who 'choose' the Son.



Synergists teach that 'All can come to Christ of their own free will', but Jesus teaches that 'no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.' (John 6:65) and all whom He grants will come (John 6:37) Free Will Synergism Vs. Free Grace Monergism



Synergists teach that 'you are not Christ's sheep because you do not believe', but Jesus teaches that 'you do not believe because you are not of My sheep.' (John 10:26)



Synergists teach that 'the reason you are not of God is because you are unwilling to hear and believe God's words.' Jesus, on the other hand, taught, 'The reason why you do not hear [God's words] is that you are not of God." (John 8:47)



Synergists teach that 'salvation is so easy a cave man can do it" but the Bible teaches that "What is impossible with man is possible with God." (Luke 18:27)



In the Divine economy men are responsible to believe the gospel, but are morally impotent to do so (when drawing from their own native resources). This inability (due to our intimate solidarity with Adam's sin) is something we are culpable for, much like owing a debt we cannot repay. So God has every right to call us all to account to 'repay our debt', so to speak, even though fallen man does not have the resources to do so. The Church has a privilege and an obligation to call all men to repent and believe the gospel (an imperative) but, left to themselves, no one believes. But God, in his great mercy, still has mercy on many, opening their hearts to the gospel that that might believe.



To this sometimes a synergist often quotes "whosoever will may come" to which we reply that this quote does not teach an indicative of what we are able to do, but rather, teaches what we 'ought' to do. As Martin Luther said, "Does it follow from: 'turn ye' that therefore you can turn? Does it follow from "'Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart' (Deut 6.5) that therefore you can love with all your heart? What do arguments of this kind prove, but the 'free-will' does not need the grace of God, but can do all things by its own power...But it does not follow from this that man is converted by his own power, nor do the words say so; they simply say: "if thou wilt turn, telling man what he should do. When he knows it, and sees that he cannot do it, he will ask whence he may find ability to do it..." Luther BW,164

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Posted : 12 Feb, 2011 08:27 PM

James,

Your dishonestly is getting wearisome. Yet another st:waving:raw man argument.

Synergists do NOT believe as you say so it is easy to defeat a made up doctrine that doesn't exist.

It would be like me saying Calvinists believe God creates people just so He can send them to hell and torture them for eternity, then turn around and prove Calvinists are wrong.

Your actions are that of a cultist.

You might take the time to educate yourself before you cut and paste bull manure.

The more I get to know you the more I begin to think Calvinism is a cult.

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Posted : 12 Feb, 2011 08:40 PM

Twosparrows,



The vast majority of the Founding fathers, were Calvinists.

The Puritans, the Pilgrims, Spurgeon, Jonathan Edwards, R.C.Sproul, James D. Kennedy, etc are ALL Calvinists.



In this case, you are arguing with John Hendryx, the man whose name was clearly printed at the top of the article.



He is a VERY well respected theologian, and has written many papers on different subjects concerning the Bible.



please go to www.monergism.com and do some reading.



Here is link to a page with many articles written by John Hendryx:



http://www.monergism.com/directory/search.php?action=search_links_simple&search_kind=and&phrase=John+Hendryx&B1.x=40&B1.y=15&B1=Search



In Christ,



James

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Posted : 12 Feb, 2011 09:02 PM

Mormons, Catholics, Jehovah Witnesses all have "well respected theologians" Even Arminians! Why with all these well respected theologians we can just throw are Bibles away and listen to them!

Btw your Hendryx built a strawman. Maybe if you weren't so busy following men you would of seen that.

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Posted : 12 Feb, 2011 09:35 PM

No worries twosparrows another 100 years and he would be following your words to.



(Rom 3:23) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

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Posted : 13 Feb, 2011 01:05 AM

Number one faith in men, outside of the word of God is one of satan's ways of seducing mankind.



No man take the life out of The word of God, all scripture is alive, all scripture is incorruptible, all scripture is full of faith, all scripture is full of light.



We are to walk in the light of the word of God as he is in the light, and he is the light of the world, the word of God, Jesus.



Jesus said he that believes, not he that interprets the word of God, would have eternal life.



If there is any scripture that is not to be believed.



If there is any scripture that is not full of light.



If there is any scripture, that is not full of faith.



If man is not able to be a doer of the word.



Then no man is able to be saved, or able to say anything to man to be saved, for there is no truth.



But there are those that believe, whosoever will call upon the name of the lord, will be saved.



Because this is the word of God, the will of God for all of mankind.



If a man says a man can not walk in the light of that scripture, he is walking in darkness, by his choice, the message of the lord Jesus is to the world, for the world, and the world is loved of the father, and if any man loveth not the world the love of God is not in him.



If you wanna know God, the how to is in the parable of the sower, the word of God written to who so ever will.

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Posted : 13 Feb, 2011 07:24 AM

PJ check the second to the last sentence of your post here, I believe you may have mistyped.

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Posted : 13 Feb, 2011 08:23 AM

Flyby what are referring to?

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Posted : 13 Feb, 2011 08:55 AM

I could be wrong but I believe this is a double negative and implies that if you don�t love the world then the love of God in not in you.

�and if any man loveth not the world the love of God is not in him�



I assume you were trying to say?

�and if any man loveth not the (WORD) the love of God is not in him�



(1Jn 2:15) Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

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Posted : 13 Feb, 2011 09:33 AM

Wow I think I gave a double negative response you PJ and am in need of correction myself.

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Posted : 13 Feb, 2011 12:02 PM

The Pilgrims were Calvinists? I didn't know that.:goofball:

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