Author	Thread: Conversions?
flyby View Profile History	Conversions? Posted : 29 Jan, 2011 12:08 AM Why is it that most all converts cling and defend modern Bibles (albeit do use the King James too), when you had the wisdom and knowledge to know to come out of a religion probably because you study and did research and if so must have researched the histories of Bibles, manuscripts, translations and translators? I haven�t done a lot of researched in Bible codes nor need to go beyond my KJV, but I do believe the codes are only encoded in the Hebrew books, the Textus Receptus and the KJV and none of the modern Bibles can encode. Some of these codes are pretty trippin. Daniel12:4 does say (knowledge shall be increased), and Im thinking our high tec world and brainiack professors may not be what God had in mind for knowledge, after all the Preacher did say in Ecc 1:9 (no new under the sun), Im thinking that knowledge has always been here waiting for us. No offence on the word convert. the Lord God uses it graciously in Isaiah 6:10 (Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.) I like what my thesaurus says about a convert �To change into a different form, substance, or state� and uses the word �translate� which is only used once in the Bible in 2 Samuel 3:10, go king David! And poor Abner (no pun intended) :~) Post Reply
View Profile History	Conversions? Posted : 29 Jan, 2011 04:29 AM I've been converted into a "new creature" in Christ Jesus. Isn't being born again Amazing? I, personally, only read KJV. I tried a couple of the other versions( at friend's insistance)-- but found it just didn't work for me.Some of the scriptures seemed to say the complete opposite of the KJV. Did you know over 40 verses in the new testament are TOTALLY DELETED in the NIV "Yes, Totally Eliminated". And 100's of scriptures where it changes men into women; says they're coming when they're going.:toomuch: Is satan 'stealing' the WORD from under our noses by giving us watered down versions of THE LIVING WORD? chevy Post Reply
View Profile History	Conversions? Posted : 29 Jan, 2011 05:50 AM So, which version of the KJV does one use? Post Reply
View Profile History	Conversions? Posted : 29 Jan, 2011 06:47 AM It's up to the individual. I think there's only the KJV and NKJV I said personally I like KJV--- But I don't have anything against someone who uses NIV or any of the numerous others. All I know is anyone who takes away or adds to God's word could suffer greatly-- so all those re-visers need to be careful. I Love You Cobbler.:nahnah: chevy Post Reply
View Profile History	Conversions? Posted : 29 Jan, 2011 06:49 AM Good one Cobbler. Wisdom flies in the face of knowledge!! Post Reply
cool_trek1 View Profile History	Conversions? Posted : 29 Jan, 2011 07:19 AM I find it interesting that the Bible has been translated into sooo many languages when say the Koran has not. Muslims may translate it, but the real Koran, the words of Allah are in Arabic. As a budding young linguist/English teacher, I would caution against harsh judgment of people who want to spread God's good news to people who do not speak/read the ancient languages of the Bible. It has been important to the Christian language to spread the good news to all people, and part of that has been translating the holy scriptures. Translation between languages can be super difficult because each langauge expresses itself in different ways, not to mention the cultural differences. Many of the translations were created with much prayer, scholarship, and hard work. It's not as if people just sat around writing their own version of history or something. I suppose what I'm saying is that one of the reasons we go to church is to hear from the learned who have studied the original and have received insight from God's Word to share with us. I believe in a God who can use translations to get his message out there. After all, if there were no scriptures, the very rocks would cry out with God's message; would they not? Post Reply
View Profile History	Conversions? Posted : 29 Jan, 2011 07:38 AM I never said God couldn't use other versions or translations to get His message across. I said PERSONALLY I prefer to read KJV. If you PERSONALLY prefer another version--- that's your choice. p.s . sarcastic reindeers make me laugh.:ROFL: chevy Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	Conversions? Posted : 29 Jan, 2011 09:18 AM Google spurious and added scriptures and you will find some interesting facts about all English language bibles. One of the main scriptures that is used by Charismatics was added as an ending to Mark 16 because the ending was lost. The real manuscript stops at what we call verse 8. Verses 9-20 were added and are supposed to be bracketed as such. In the KJV, the brackets were left out and all other English translations have followed suit. The KJV has 4 main translations, 1611 edition, Authorized version, Modern KJV, and now NKJV. The NKJV being hailed as the most accurate of all those listed. It corrects linguistic errors and common phrases that were used in the other additions of the KJV. I was raised on the KJV, and still enjoy the beauty of it. The flow and cadence of the writing is incredible. It reads like poetry. That cadence is present in the NKJV, but it is not the same. I use it because it is easy to understand, and it still sounds like the bible. Leon Post Reply
View Profile History	Conversions? Posted : 29 Jan, 2011 09:51 AM Leon even if it was added as you say, it is totally in line with scripture, now if you want to make it charismatic, calvinist, you can it is all in unbelief and then of works as you proclaim. You are either a believer or you are not!! Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	Conversions? Posted : 29 Jan, 2011 10:06 AM God bless you, PJ. You are entitled to your opinion. No one said it didn't fit with the rest of scripture. I said it was used by Charismatics because it is. I was formally taught by them, so i know what I am talking about. You don't have to believe me, I couldn't care less what you think. I stated a fact. You came here insulting and accusing. Be not deceived; God is not mocked, whatsoever thou soweth, thou shalt also reap. Leon Post Reply
View Profile History	Conversions? Posted : 29 Jan, 2011 10:35 AM Unless one is reading in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic they read a "translation" of the Bible. Different translations are used for different things; study, easy of reading, grasp a idea, personal preference, poetry etc... The point is unless we read the original languages we are all reading a translation. Personally, when I read the Bible I have 3 study bibles in 3 different translations in a stack. I like to read a passage 3 times, one in each translation. You can really catch different nuances, each has different notes and you get to read it 3 times without getting bored! That's just what I like. Post Reply

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