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Posted : 26 Jan, 2011 08:09 PM

Hola! :waving:



I'm looking for the scriptures dealing with people veering away from the church and forming their own theologies.



Can anyone help me please? There's a friend that thinks all the churches are wrong because they go farther into the Bible than just what Jesus says.



I'm sorry it's so vague, but I can't remember any of the specific words or anything else.



Any help would be greatly appreciated!!



T

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Posted : 26 Jan, 2011 08:43 PM

Galatians 1:6-12

2 Corinithians 11:4-15

Galatians 5:7-15

Acts 15:24

Jeremiah 23:9-40

Matthew 7:21-23

1 John 4:1-6

1John 2:18-27

2 John 7-11

2 Peter 2:1-22

1 Timothy 1:3-11

Ben Hur 3:16







Just kidding on the last one...lol

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Posted : 26 Jan, 2011 10:48 PM

Thank you, Two! :)

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Posted : 27 Jan, 2011 10:08 AM

We can see all these 7 kinds of churches today.

(1) Ephesus (Revelation 2:1-7) - the church that had forsaken its first love (2:4).



(2) Smyrna (Revelation 2:8-11) - the church that would suffer persecution (2:10).



(3) Pergamum (Revelation 2:12-17) - the church that needed to repent (2:16).



(4) Thyatira (Revelation 2:18-29) - the church that had a false prophetess (2:20).



(5) Sardis (Revelation 3:1-6) - the church that had fallen asleep (3:2).



(6) Philadelphia (Revelation 3:7-13) - the church that had endured patiently (3:10).



(7) Laodicea (Revelation 3:14-22) - the church with the lukewarm faith (3:16).





Warning for the End Time



The problems with false teachings, false doctrines, and the spirit of Nicolaitan ministers and teachers, was foretold to become very serious and extreme in the �end of days.� The apostle Paul warned, �Now the Spirit expressly [explicitly] says that in the LATTER TIMES some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron� (I Tim.4:1-2).



In his second letter to Timothy, Paul issued the same warning, only more explicit He wrote, �But know this, that in the LAST DAYS perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a FORM of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the TRUTH. Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth� (II Tim.3:1-8).



The Nicolaitan condition is like a spiritual cancer, that spreads and poisons cells and creates tumors and metastasizes until it spreads its lethal cargo throughout the whole body. If it is not purged, it leads ultimately to death.



Therefore, God tells His true ministers, and servants, to be on their guard. �Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with al longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables� (II Tim.4:2-4).



Each one of us is responsible for our own salvation. We dare not trust any man to do our work, study, prayer, or research for us � we must work out our own salvation, �with fear and trembling� (Phil.2:12-13). Paul also declared, �that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting� (Eph.4:14).



Salvation is serious business! The spirit of Nicolaus/Nimrod and religious deception is alive and well, and thriving in this end-time generation.



Now that you know what the �Nicolaitans� are, what are you going to do about it?

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Posted : 27 Jan, 2011 11:30 AM

Ncwestie,

Good stuff, the 7 churches in Revelation, how could I forgotten that!

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Posted : 27 Jan, 2011 01:51 PM

Pro 18:1 A man who isolates himself seeks his own desire; He rages against all wise judgment.

Pro 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding, But in expressing his own heart.



2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

2Ti 3:17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.



Heb 10:25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.

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Posted : 27 Jan, 2011 09:37 PM

Thank you ncwestie....very interesting! :applause:



Leon, that's what I was looking for!! Thank you!!



A facebook friend began a political debate a while back and James and I were discussing our differences. We "friended" each other and have since had many discussions, some of them being about religion. He seems to be very nice and courteous over all but he doesn't ever really answer the questions I pose to him. I'm wondering if this is something I should just stop doing? Or am I getting somewhere?



Once again, any advice would be appreciated.



T :glow:

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Posted : 28 Jan, 2011 07:25 AM

You're very welcome, Tandy. There are many scriptures that could be used, but those are the ones I would use. They are simple and straight to the point.



As for continuing your discussions, only you can answer that. If you feel that there is any chance, I would suggest continuing, but that is just my opinion. let the Holy Spirit guide you in this. If there is no chance of it harming you or others, I don't see a problem.



God be with you, my friend!



Much love,

Leon

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