What is Blaspheme ? Why do you think you will be forgiven if you Blaspheme against the Father or the Son, but if you Blaspheme against the HOLY GHOST, you will not be forgiven?
20 A bruised reed He will not break, And smoking flax He will not quench, Till He sends forth justice to victory; 21 And in His name Gentiles will trust.�[a]
A House Divided Cannot Stand
22 Then one was brought to Him who was demon-possessed, blind and mute; and He healed him, so that the blind and[b] mute man both spoke and saw. 23 And all the multitudes were amazed and said, �Could this be the Son of David?� 24 Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, �This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub,[c] the ruler of the demons.� 25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: �Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29 Or how can one enter a strong man�s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.
The Unpardonable Sin
31 �Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
:prayingf:I truly believe in context. Funny thing about accusations regarding blasphemy, it was the #1 accusation of the religious rulers against Jesus and the apostles (Acts 26:11). It was used as the reason for HIS crucifixion. People have a lot of interpretations of what "blasphemy against the Spirit" is from simply you disagree with me, so I am going to call you it (like it has been done here and is truly hurtful to read) to the rejection of Jesus as LORD and Savior.
I know this is going to be another shock, :excited:
get those buckets of rocks ready,:boxing:
okay, my shield of faith has been activated:MrT:(he looks like he's in armor to me?:ROFL:)
First, I believe due to the context. People can say whatever bad, awful, foul, hideous thing, they want about Jesus and be forgiven including rejecting Him at times. But in the end if the call upon His name, they will be forgiven.:bow:(worship)
Second, Jesus was being accused because of the good he was doing and really the WORD he was spreading and the gospel of Isaiah 61; just infuriated the religious leaders to the point of legal murder and madness which they ganged-up on, conspiring late into the night to accomplish.
Third, I believe "blasphemy of the Spirit" occurs when a person coming with the "Spirit of the LORD upon them" goes about doing good, sharing the WORD which sets the captives free, bringing deliverance and healing, speaking the truth in love, etc.. gets told they are of the power of the devil (in the text above it was Beelzebub. I believe to attribute the works and ministry of the Spirit to HIS enemy Satan is blasphemy and the sin not to be forgiven.
Fourth, I believe from the context of the passage those who accused Jesus of blasphemy actually committed the sin of "blasphemy of the Spirit". Therefore, they could never attain forgiveness and would end-up in the lake of fire with Satan and all the devils/demons.
Fifth, Due to what I believe about blasphemy and the knowledge that at times in scripture GOD specifically has used even devils/demons to accomplish HIS will (testing, chastening, and judging His people). --- :excited:
I DO NOT USE THE WORD "BLASPHEMY" IN THE FORM OF ACCUSATION AGAINST ANYONE. FOR ME TO INVOKE IT IN ERROR IS SUCH A GRAVE CONSEQUENCE TO MY SALVATION, I AM NOT WILLING TO TAKE THE RISK.:excited:
Sixth: I choose to test the spirits to see whether they are of God; look to the fruit when squeezed is it grace, mercy, humility, and love or does judgment, accusations, pride, and hatred come forth? I try to discern whether I am in a spirit of error rather than the truth or whether the other is missing the mark. I go to the scripture. Seventh: Being a Christian is about love, not open humiliation and public verbal stoning. In love, I can truly say, I fear for the very souls that should continue in the role of accuser of the brethren, attacking and betraying peoples friendships, and especially using the word "blasphemy" towards a believer just because they differ in their ministry.
I encourage all of us (me, too) to work out our own salvation in fear and trembling--least we preach to others the glorious, greatness of GOD's unfailing love--and we get disqualified (a concern of Paul's) Once saved is not always saved, we can get disqualified.
The following scripture came up in my spirit, "grace to the hearers" the other day before this exchange took place.
Ephesians 4:25-32 (New King James Version) Do Not Grieve the Spirit
25 Therefore, putting away lying, � Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor,�[a] for we are members of one another. 26 �Be angry, and do not sin�:[b] do not let the sun go down on your wrath, 27 nor give place to the devil. 28 Let him who stole steal no longer, but rather let him labor, working with his hands what is good, that he may have something to give him who has need. :prayingf:29 Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers. :prayingf: 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. :prayingf:32 And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.:prayingf: :angel:
You were doing good up until you had to throw in that little jab about a prior exchange. What exchange are you talking about ? The one in which you tried to publicly humiliate and verbally stone me ?
I've seen you "attack" before; through a smokescreen of words that often begin with, (In Love). Was it because their ministry was different ?
Wrath is cruel and anger is outrageous; but who is able to stand before envy?
Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
He that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life: but he that openeth wide his lips shall have destruction.
Ok...back to the post...Blaspheme...this is a hard one...I am definitely not a theologian but some of the things I'v read seemed to point that it was a fatal sin because it was saying that the power from the Holy Ghost (spirit) actually came from Satan...thus trying to ruin the works (miracles) or image of God. I am sure that all the sins Paul committed would have been considered unforgivable so I don't think it had to do with ignorance. I do think it had a lot to do with someone knowing the truth behind Jesus and trying to discredit it and give glory to the devil.
I don't know...this was a tuff one so I'll let the professionals answer it.
I suppose, I could point out if you check the time in which I posted this response you could see, it is really done too quickly for it to not have already been prepared. Actually, saved since August 6, the first time I saw "Blasphemy" in a post. I edited it some prior to posting today by skimming over rather than thoroughly reading. That line:
The following scripture came up in my spirit, "grace to the hearers" the other day before this exchange took place.
Probably would have been changed had I noticed it by me but if my steps are ordered by the LORD as I believe perhaps my error is HIS will?
You were doing good up until you had to throw in that little jab about a prior exchange. What exchange are you talking about ? The one in which you tried to publicly humiliate and verbally stone me ?
I've seen you "attack" before; through a smokescreen of words that often begin with, (In Love). Was it because their ministry was different ?
Wrath is cruel and anger is outrageous; but who is able to stand before envy?
Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
He that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life: but he that openeth wide his lips shall have destruction.
This post is sounding a bit scary? Perhaps you might want to be more direct with those who have offended you? Did they do it to you, personally? Have you followed the admonition in Matt 18 to contact them privately first, with a witness second, and publically or through forum admin? Do they, she, or he even realize, your talking of them? Perhaps they will repent and apologize?
If not, why are you posting publically such things? Where's your heart on this matter? What are you trying to accomplish? Are you walking in the fruit of the spirit? Is there a desire to see repentence or is your desire for something else? Are you truly sure about the things your saying? Do you really know the person well enough through the internet to...? Are you sure you want to come forth like this? Do you think it is going to be good for you, for me, for other readers, for the forum, for the LORD?
Thank you for your input, strawberi. I'm hoping as you are that professionals or others who KNOW the Word will come forward and try to answer my questions about Blaspheme.
I will not dive fully into this subject but I will say that it is much harder to blasphem the holy ghost than what men have said in times past.
As strawberri said prior,,,I would have thought on the surface that Pauls Sins and persecutions of the church might have qualified for such but we see it didn't.
He not only thought the apostels and christians we're of the devil he also though he was doing God a service by killing them.
But I also believe that it can be done in ignorance too.
Let me say the most important thing that concerns this scripture that I've seen. That is,,,, the devil is the one who uses this verse more than the people who might have commited this act of blasphemy. He always tells people they have blasphemed when they haven't.
Hear me now,,,, If you are a christian and think that you have blasphemed it is the best sign that you haven't.
You see,,, if you had blasphemed you would not be feeling conviction over it,,, Your mind and heart would be turned over to a reprobate mind, there would be no Godly sorrow over it,,, God spirit would withdraw from you.
God bless,,, Bruce,,,, :peace: p,e,a,c,e,,,, o,u,t,, !
