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Posted : 27 Oct, 2010 04:35 PM

I shared a portion of this passage in another thread today. I wanted to share more of it and I wanted to be sure that everyone on here would be able to read it. It's long but I figure that since I start very few threads here I had some making up to do.



2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, as there will be teachers of falsehood among you also, who will cunningly introduce fatal divisions, disowning even the Sovereign Lord who has redeemed them, and bringing on themselves swift destruction.

2Pe 2:2 And in their immoral ways they will have many eager disciples, through whom religion will be brought into disrepute.

2Pe 2:3 Thirsting for riches, they will trade on you with their canting talk. From of old their judgement has been working itself out, and their destruction has not been slumbering.

2Pe 2:4 For God did not spare angels when they had sinned, but hurling them down to Tartarus consigned them to caves of darkness, keeping them in readiness for judgement.

2Pe 2:5 And He did not spare the ancient world, although He preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a deluge on the world of the ungodly.

2Pe 2:6 He reduced to ashes the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, and condemned them to overthrow, making them an example to people who might in future be living godless lives. (1912 Weymouth New Testament)



2Ti 4:1 I solemnly implore you, in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus who is about to judge the living and the dead, and by His Appearing and His Kingship:

2Ti 4:2 proclaim God's message, be zealous in season and out of season; convince, rebuke, encourage, with the utmost patience as a teacher.

2Ti 4:3 For a time is coming when they will not tolerate wholesome instruction, but, wanting to have their ears tickled, they will find a multitude of teachers to satisfy their own fancies;

2Ti 4:4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and will turn aside to fables.

2Ti 4:5 But as for you, you must exercise habitual self-control, and not live a self-indulgent life, but do the duty of an evangelist and fully discharge the obligations of your office. (1912 Weymouth New Testament)



My point here is simply this. First, know the Truth, not only the Truth of the Scriptures but also of the application of it. One can say, "the Bible says" but it takes more to say "the Bible says and means". We are coming into a time when the words, "If you're looking for Satan start with the pulpit" have never been more true.



Secondly, it is imperative that those of us with the gifts of prophecy and teaching speak out against the evil in our churches, rebuke the leaders who claim to teach Truth but are only wrapping their lies with it, reveal the devourer and take hold of the Knowledge of God and present His whole Gospel of the Son of God so that those who might be lost in the crowd of Pharisees may be found and saved.



Blessings upon thse who fight the good fight.



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Posted : 28 Oct, 2010 10:00 AM

@ Thunder



Thunder;This is a good topic.



I will write something on this tomorrow.

I need to eat then rest before going bck to the salt mine.

hahaha



Agape' and Charis:

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Posted : 28 Oct, 2010 08:08 PM

7 woes in Matthew 23:

Woe means grievous distress, affliction, or trouble!

Beware of the woes here and Revelation at the last 3 trumpets!



Woes Against Human Religion

Jesus' woes are the angry laments of wounded love, incited by compassion for those whom religious leaders have led astray (see 23:37). Second-century rabbis, probably passing on many ideas from the Pharisees of Jesus' day, harshly condemned hypocrisy (for example, t. Yoma 5:12). Christians today often think of "Pharisees" as hypocrites and hence do not feel threatened when hearing them denounced. But the Pharisees' contemporaries thought of them as very devoted practitioners of the Bible, and of the scribes as experts in biblical laws. In today's terms, Jesus was thundering against many popular preachers and people who seemed to be living holy lives--because they were practicing human religion rather than serving God with purified hearts.

I suspect that much of what passes for Christianity today is little more than human religion with the name of Jesus tacked onto it, because like most of the religion of Jesus' contemporaries, it has failed to transform its followers into Christ's servants passionately devoted to his mission in the world. When rightly understood, Jesus' woes may strike too close to home for comfort. When religion becomes a veneer of holiness to conceal unholy character, it makes its bearers less receptive to God's transforming grace.Religious Leaders Sometimes Do More Harm Than Good (23:13-15) Jesus first accuses these religious leaders of "shutting" off the kingdom, using the image of a majordomo, a prominent official who carried keys (16:19; Is 22:22; Rev 3:7). This may allude to scribes' purported authority to "bind" and "loose" by their knowledge of the law (Mt 16:19), here used to hinder would-be followers of Christ. Thus they are blind guides of the blind (23:16, 19, 24; compare 15:14).





Matthew 23

1Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,



2Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:



3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.



4For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.



5But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,



6And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,



7And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.



8But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.



9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.



10Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.



11But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.



12And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.



13But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.



14Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.



15Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.



16Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!



17Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?



18And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.



19Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?



20Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.



21And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.



22And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.



23Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.



24Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.



25Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.



26Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.



27Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.



28Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.



29Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,



30And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.



31Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.



32Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.



33Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?



34Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:



35That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.



36Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.



37O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!



38Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.



39For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

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Posted : 28 Oct, 2010 08:17 PM

Matthew 23 (Today's New International Version)



Matthew 23

A Warning Against Hypocrisy

1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

5 "Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries [a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6 they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7 they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to have people call them 'Rabbi.'



8 "But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. 9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Messiah. 11 The greatest among you will be your servant. 12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.



Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees

13-14 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.

15 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and then you make that convert twice as much a child of hell as you are.



16 "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, 'If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple is bound by the oath.' 17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, 'If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but whoever swears by the gift on the altar is bound by the oath.' 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.



23 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices�mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law�justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.



25 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.



27 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.



29 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, 'If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your ancestors!



33 "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.



37 "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' [b]"



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