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Admin	Men Don't Follow Programs Posted : 24 Oct, 2010 02:19 PM Thought I would share this very interesting and short article from Tim Challies blog: Earlier this week I was skimming back through William Farley�s book Gospel-Powered Parenting and happened across his discussion of �Gospel Fathers.� In this section he discusses the importance of godly, masculine men within a church body. He starts out by quoting a selection of lines from Why Men Hate Going to Church by David Murrow: You cannot have a thriving church without a core of men who are true followers of Christ. If men are dead, the church is dead� If we want to change the world, we must focus on men� When men are absent and anemic the body withers� The church and the Titanic have something in common: It�s women and children first. The great majority of ministry in Protestant churches is focused on children, next on women� Men don�t follow programs; they follow men. A woman may choose a church because of the programs it offers, but a man is looking for another man he can follow. I think the core of what he says there is found in the final paragraph. Men don�t follow programs; they follow men. Farley wants to make sure that we understand what this does not mean. �We are not talking about �macho� behavior. Machismo is a perversion of biblical masculinity. In fact, it usually occurs because men feel insecure about their masculinity.� The simple fact is that men want to follow men�real men, admirable men, men who are worth following. The point of it all? If you want to have a solid church�a church that has strong, masculine men within it (which is the exception rather than the rule within the Evangelical church) you need to have strong, masculine, godly leadership. Without this kind of leadership a church will inevitably wither and fade. Post Reply
View Profile History	Men Don't Follow Programs Posted : 24 Oct, 2010 02:56 PM AMEN! Post Reply
View Profile History	Men Don't Follow Programs Posted : 25 Oct, 2010 07:59 AM I guess my church is a exception! Our men's study on Tuesday nights are called the Band of Brothers with over 70 strong men devoted to the Lord, for raising up disciples. Our church have all the gifts presently working all the time. Most men I see, many can't work their time to commit to groups within the church. Men can always work in ministry to others in their daily life sharing the gospel in their workplace or anywhere in living each day. Equipping the saints inside the church is where sermons needs to be redirected. The church in general are not raising up Godly Leaders, sharing the gospel with the unsaved is where we need to be heading. thechristiananswer.com Post Reply
shepherdingking View Profile History	Men Don't Follow Programs Posted : 25 Oct, 2010 11:41 AM Good post, more is needed to teach what Godly masculinity is all about. And sometimes Women follow men, too. Some women will even let their husbands be the leader :ROFL: That is acceptable. But men should not follow women. Adam followed Eve in the Garden. Masculine men do not fall for the "women rule men drool," world system today? Or do they. It's as easy as 1,2,3, Psalm 1331 "Behold, how good and how pleasant it is For brethren to dwell together in unity!" First...the Men are united in the things of God. "2 It is like the precious oil upon the head, Running down on the beard, The beard of Aaron, Running down on the edge of his garments." second.....Oil is a type of anointing (The Holy Spirit & the oil of joy) needed for priests who's function is to bring others to God. "3 It is like the dew of Hermon, Descending upon the mountains of Zion; For there the LORD commanded the blessing� Life forevermore." Three...Dew symbolises God's mercy which is new every morning, and needed for our own individual relationship to God. Together they point to the cross. two lines, one vertical and our private relationship and one horizontal our relationship with others. We are called to make disciples, and bring others to God. To do so we need the verticalle personal relationship, which brings us Joy and the HS. Post Reply
View Profile History	Men Don't Follow Programs Posted : 26 Oct, 2010 06:44 AM There are many that show up for church to please their spouse only or the person we love. It's dead religion. We have to explain the difference between dead religion and what we enjoy by having a personal relationship with our savior. I was blessed growing up in church, I was baptised but was never really counciled about the personal relationship we strive to obtain. Without that, it will surely die and will let Satan to get you back to him. We should encourage and talk with the special person in our life about the gospel not about just going to church but the real reason we attend church, for establishing that special relationship we have in him. Blessing to you:applause: Post Reply
View Profile History	Men Don't Follow Programs Posted : 26 Oct, 2010 08:38 AM The Old Covenant = A Program The New Covenant = A Man (God/Man: Jesus) Post Reply