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TO HIM THAT CONQUERS!
Posted : 9 Sep, 2010 12:30 PM

To Him that �CONQUERS�

Notice! In the letters to the seven churches of God described in Revelation 2-3,

Christ gives each one of His churches a warning. He says to them:Ephesus � �To everyone who conquers I will give permission to eat of the tree of

life that is in the paradise of God� (Rev.2:7, NRSV).

Smyrna � �Whoever conquers will not be hurt by the second death� (verse 11).

Pergamum � �To everyone who conquers I will give some of the hidden manna,

and I will give a white stone, and on the white stone is written a new name that no one

knows but the one who receives it� (v.17).

Thyatira � �To everyone who conquers and CONTINUES to do my works to the

END, I will give authority over the nations; to rule them with an iron rod, as when clay

pots are shattered � even as I also received authority from my Father. To the one who

conquers I will also give the morning star� (vs.26-28).

Sardis � �I know your works; you have a name of being alive [that is, you

professed Christ and think you are a Christian], but you are DEAD. WAKE UP, and

strengthen what remains and is on the point of death, for I have not found your works

perfect in the sight of God. Remember then what you have received and heard; OBEY

IT, and REPENT. If you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know

at what hour I will come to you. Yet you have a few persons in Sardis who have not

soiled their clothes; they will walk with me, dressed in white, for they are worthy. If you

CONQUER, you will be clothed like them in white robes, and I will not blot your name

out of the book of life; I will confess your name before my Father and before his angels�

(Rev.3:1-5, NRSV).

Notice it! OVERCOMING � CONQUERING � is required for ultimate, final

SALVATION! Make no mistake! God means exactly what He says! Thinking you

possess �eternal security� and are therefore free to live as you please, or to be negligent

of good works, to assume that no works are required for salvation, that it was all decided

when you made your �decision� for Christ � is sheer unadulterated NONSENSE and

satanically FALSE teaching which will lead a person straight into the Lake of Fire and

brimstone � the final �second death�!

To the church in Philadelphia, God says � �If you CONQUER, I will make you a

pillar in the temple of my God; you will never go out of it. I will write on you the name

of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem that comes down

from my God out of heaven, and my own new name� (Rev.3:12).

To receive these wonderful promises, and salvation, one thing is required � we

must CONQUER! That is, we must OVERCOME the pulls of the flesh, the human

carnal mind, the influences of the evil world around us, the teachings of false ministers

and the seduction and deception and enticements of Satan the devil! We must through

the help of God, and Christ, and the Holy Spiirit of POWER, which God gives to us,

OVERCOME AND CONQUER all these things!

Nothing therefore is absolutely certain or assured until the END of our lives!

To the Laodicean church, Christ declared � �To the one who conquers I will give

a place with me on my throne, just as I myself conquered and sat down with my Father

on his throne� (Rev.3:21).

To everyone who CONQUERS God will give final SALVATION, glory, and

majesty, in the Kingdom of God!

Can anyone understand this on this site or am I wasting my time?Run to WIN Your Race!

Paul the apostle understood that we must endure to the end � that we must be

FAITHFUL till our dying day, or till Christ returns (whichever comes first!). Paul wrote,

of his own spiritual battle: �Do you not know that in a race the runners all compete, but

only one receives the prize? RUN in such a way that you may WIN it. Athletes exercise

self-control in all things; they do it to receive a perishable wreathe, but we an

imperishable one. So I do not run aimlessly, nor do I box as though beating the air; but I

punish my body and enslave it, so that after proclaiming to others I myself should not be

disqualified� (I Cor.9:24-27, NRSV).

Notice this in the Amplified Parallel Bible: �Do you not know that in a race all

the runners compete, but [only] one receives the prize? So RUN [your race] so that you

may lay hold [of the prize] and make it yours. . . Therefore I do not run uncertainly

(without definite aim). I do not box like one beating the air and striking without an

adversary. But [like a boxer] I buffet my body [handle it roughly, discipline it by

hardships] and subdue it, for fear that after proclaiming to others the Gospel and things pertaining to it, I MYSELF SHOULD BECOME UNFIT [not stand the test, be

unapproved and rejected as a counterfeit].�

�Eternal security� once you profess Christ? HOGWASH! Professing Christ is

merely the BEGINNING of the Christian faith and walk! Once beginning, you must

ENDURE TO THE END, OVERCOMING, CONQUERING, AND BRINGING YOUR SELF INTO SUBJECTION TO CHRIST!

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Posted : 9 Sep, 2010 02:34 PM

ENDURE TO THE END, OVERCOMING, CONQUERING, AND BRINGING YOUR SELF INTO SUBJECTION TO CHRIST!



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Posted : 9 Sep, 2010 04:07 PM

Does the truth hurt,Has the Word Of God stepped on your toes? Remember Satan has decieved the whole world Rev.12:9,But you won't have to worry about any more post from me because I feel I have been a witness of the Word of God

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Posted : 9 Sep, 2010 04:24 PM

@ firstfruits:



Firstfruits,this is the last time I will post this for you to read.

Please read this,do not pass this by.



Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.



Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.



If there is anything that you or I have to do in order to be Saved/accepted/recieved/adopted/born from above:

Then Yeshua/Jesus gave His life in vain.



If you or anyone is able to repent of their sins to be saved,

then according to the Word of GOD;you are not saved.



Yeshua came to seek and to save the lost,not those that repent of their sins.

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Posted : 9 Sep, 2010 04:39 PM

@ firstfruits:

I hit the submit by mistake:

I repent,hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha



Repent:this Greek word says to change ones mind.



G3340

μετανοέω

metanoeō

Thayer Definition:

1) to change one�s mind, i.e. to repent

2) to change one�s mind for better, heartily to amend with abhorrence of one�s past sins

Part of Speech: verb

A Related Word by Thayer�s/Strong�s Number: from G3326 and G3539

Citing in TDNT: 4:975, 636



Mar 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Yeshua is saying here to turn your mind from not believing the Gospel to believing the Gospel.

The Gospel in the Old Covenant was contained within the prophecies concerning Yeshua the Messiah.



Yeshua was not abdicating repentance from sin,repentance being to turn from not believing the Gospel,to believing the Gospel.

We are called to this same repentance.



When will you trust Yeshua and Yeshua alone for Salvation?

Either you are saved by works or Yeshua.

no man can serve two masters.



Agape' and Charis:

St.George

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Posted : 9 Sep, 2010 06:02 PM

If you fall into sin tomorrow or next month, is it possible for you to lose your gift of eternal life?



The Bible says:



We are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest stands daily ministering and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But this man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever [past, present and future] sat down at the right hand of God . . . . For by one offering has He perfected forever those who are being sanctified. Hebrews 10:10-12, 14



According to the Bible, for which of your sins did Jesus pay when He died?



* Your past sins.



* Your past and present sins.



* All your sins forever: past present and future.



According to this verse, how often are you sanctified (made holy) by the death of Jesus Christ?



Once a week. Once every time you confess your latest sins and ask forgiveness.



Once a month. Once for all.



ETERNAL SECURITY: A NECESSARY CONCLUSION OF OUR LORD'S DEATH



One does not lose the gift of eternal life because of sin. That's the very reason that Christ died . . . to pay for your sins! It is because He died for all sins forever -- past, present, future -- that He is able once and for all to declare you not guilty . . . not only of your past sins, but of all your sins: past, present and future! To refuse to believe this is to refuse to believe the very gospel itself!





ETERNAL SECURITY: A NECESSARY CONCLUSION OF GRACE



If after you had trusted Christ you were required to keep the law of God to "stay saved" . . .



Could you honestly say that eternal life was by grace (a free gift)? YES NO

OR

Would that imply that your salvation ultimately depended upon the works of the law? YES NO



Therefore, if someone flatly denies the Bible's teaching on eternal security, how is he actually trying to reach God, by grace, or by the works of the law? Can anyone be justified (saved) in this way? How does the Bible say that a man is justified? [See Romans 3:28 for help] In another passage of the Bible Jesus said:



My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to Me is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand. John 10:27-29



In the above verse, what type of life did Jesus say He gives?



Temporary Conditional Eternal



If it is truly eternal as Jesus said could it ever be lost? In the above verse, who did Jesus say was greater than all? How great would someone have to be to take himself out of God's grip? Are you greater than God? In light of this verse, if you had just 24 hours left to live, what could you do to insure that you would not go to hell?



(For additional passages on eternal security see: Romans 8:38-39, Ephesians 1:12-14, John 6:37-40, Hebrews 13:5)

SHALL WE CONTINUE TO SIN THEN?

Although no sin can ever deprive a believer of the eternal life which was freely bestowed upon him once and for all, sin nevertheless has grave consequences both in this life and in the life to come. Firstly, there are natural consequences of sin. A person who drinks to excess may kill himself or an innocent victim in an automobile accident. One who engages in immoral activity may contract AIDS and die. Knowing Christ as Savior will save one from hell, but it will not save one from the natural consequences of sinful or foolish living. (Gal. 6:7-8, James 2:14-17). Secondly, there are eternal consequences for sin. Receiving a free ticket to a sports event guarantees one entrance to the stadium, but it does not guarantee one a front row seat. Similarly, receiving the free gift of eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ guarantees a person entrance into God's eternal kingdom, but it in no way guarantees one an exalted position in that kingdom! Our "position" in heaven and the rewards associated with that position are totally dependent upon the holy life and godly works which we manifest in this lifetime (I Cor. 3:11-17, 9:24-27, II Cor. 5:10-11). While the pleasures of sin in this life may at times appear more important than some distant hope of future rewards in heaven, scripture teaches that those who barter away their "inheritance" (their future rewards in heaven) for the pleasures of sin will one day weep uncontrollably when they see the unspeakable rewards which they forfeited when they pursued their own sinful pleasures in this lifetime. (Hebrew 12:14-17, Like 19:11-27, Matthew 14:30)

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Posted : 9 Sep, 2010 06:10 PM

its not a license to sin but Jesus died once and for all for sins there is nothing in scripture thats says you have to keep salvation there is one way to keep it Jesus. Jesus saves Jesus keeps period

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Posted : 10 Sep, 2010 03:01 PM

@ Hamilton:



I see there is someone on this site that understands Grace,forgiveness of sin(s),eternal life,and eternal security.



Hamilton,do not listen to the naysayers,or those not understanding and recieving the Grace of YHWH..



Touche' young soldier of YHWH,touche'



Agape' and Charis:

St.George



It is toooo bad many others are not with us.



No on can serve two masters:

Either a person is saved and kept by their repenting;

Or Yeshua/Jesus saves,keeps protects and preserves the person and the relationship,for all eternity.

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Posted : 10 Sep, 2010 07:06 PM

thanks trucker iam glad you been right here with me on this subject thank God its not up to the believer to get or keep salvation we would all fail misseribly thank God its by Grace Amen!

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Posted : 10 Sep, 2010 08:03 PM

@ Hamiton:



If Yeshua left any part of salvation,justification,

sanctification,righteousness,holiness,or anything else pertaining to the keeping and protecting of the relationship that He has with me or anyone else;Then we would all be doomed....





1Cor 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1Cor 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

1Cor 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1Cor 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

1Cor 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:

1Cor 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

1Cor 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

1Cor 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

1Cor 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

1Cor 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1Cor 1:28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

1Cor 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

1Cor 1:30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

1Cor 1:31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.



Agape' and Charis:

St.George



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Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

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