Author	Thread: submission in dating/courtship
Admin	submission in dating/courtship Posted : 4 Sep, 2010 11:22 PM To what degree should a woman (who is trying to cultivate the qualities necessary to be a godly wife) submit to her boyfriend? Post Reply
View Profile History	submission in dating/courtship Posted : 5 Sep, 2010 06:11 AM Assuming that, in both your eyes, this is a serious relationship leading to marriage, then I would say you submit to the same degree as you're are planning to in a marriage. Godly submission is a character trait that Christ and you are cultivating together. Just be yourself and give an honest representation of where you are in your walk with God. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	submission in dating/courtship Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 08:58 AM I think it should only go as far as submitting to the things that he does that are Christ-like. We're not supposed to submit to anything that goes against Christ, and if your boyfriend/husband is asking you to do things that Jesus wouldn't ask you to do....don't do it. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	submission in dating/courtship Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 02:16 PM What verses do you get that from? Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	submission in dating/courtship Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 10:27 PM What verses do you need it from? If a man isn't behaving in a Christ-like manner, should he be submitted to? We are supposed to respect the government, but if the government tells us to worship idols...should we do it? :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	submission in dating/courtship Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 11:19 PM What if the husband is an unbeliever, does she not to submit then? What if he tells her she can't read her bible or go to church and if she does it would just cause strife and major problems? (I say she hides her bible reading to avoid the problem it would cause reading it in front of him.) What if he is always is wanting her to watch R rated movies that blasphem God's name? Oh wait, Christian already do watch R rated movies that blasphem God. Never mind! He probably doesn't have Christ-like manners but I think the bible still says the same thing for those ladies as the ones that have husbands that do exhibit Christ-like manners at times. It is not a, "when you do this, then I'll do that" deal. We do what is commanded regardless what the other is doing. As for the topic here I say courting should always have marriage as a goal and when it no longer is the goal the dating stops. I agree with GodsHandiwork start cultivating those habits you want in a marrage in the courtship. Submit can be respct for yourself and for him at all times. Always exhibit the beauty of a godly lady and you will always light up the room when you walk in and you make your man the star! Post Reply
View Profile History	submission in dating/courtship Posted : 6 Sep, 2010 11:23 PM Thanks to everybody for their input =) The boyfriend and I listed to a Family Life Today radio broadcast together a bit ago about submission and it really helped clarify some things for me too! Submission is a difficult topic to get a good handle on because so many people just want to avoid talking about it and so many women don't practice it that it's hard to know what it even looks like. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	submission in dating/courtship Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 07:17 AM I think a woman should submit to the christ-like things He does that deserve submission, but I do not think she should just "always" submit. Her marriage to Christ comes first. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	submission in dating/courtship Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 02:09 PM Just some thoughts that I've been rolling over in my mind since Pixy asked her original question: Submission to Christ comes first for both parties...that is another reason why it is imperative that both be Christ followers. Perhaps because of a military background, I liken submission in a wife to submission to the authority of an officer...say, a captain of a ship. The difference is that, in our culture, a women can choose who she marries...in the military, one doesn't get to choose who is in command over you. A captain is given authority as to operations on/of his ship...realizing that he get's his orders from and is going to be held responsible and accountable by those higher in the chain of command. Very similar to the role of a Christian husband in the home. There are good captains that listen to the advice of those under them, who love and respect their sailors realizing that they are their greatest asset in fulfilling the mission. Their desire is to serve, accomplish the mission to the best of their ability and bring as many safely home as possible. To the other extreme, there are tyrants who are focused on themselves and self aggrandizement....whose desire is to fulfill the mission only to the extent that it brings them glory, not caring who they have to sacrifice to get there. We are blessed, in our culture, to be able to decide who we are going to marry. So, given this blessing, it is extremely important as a woman to be discerning as to who you are going to covenant with and give leadership over you...to know a man's leadership qualities, that you are on the same page spiritually with the common goal to fulfill God's mission and bring Him glory. Now, on a ship, there are times for mutiny....when you're given an unlawful order and/or the captain is behaving in a treasonous manner, subverting the authority of those over him. The same exists in a marriage...when you are asked to do something that goes against the Word...that are treasonous to Christ and His teachings. But, in disagreements that are within Biblical parameters, final authority lies with the husband because responsibility and accountability to God lie with him as well. Post Reply
View Profile History	submission in dating/courtship Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 03:58 PM @GodsHandiwork- Thanks for that explanation! I think that is one of the best explanations of submission that I've ever heard/read =) Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	submission in dating/courtship Posted : 7 Sep, 2010 07:56 PM Yes it is, very nicely said. :peace::peace: Post Reply