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Posted : 25 Aug, 2010 06:25 PM

What barriers prevent wives from seeing the beauty of submitting to their husbands?

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Posted : 25 Aug, 2010 07:01 PM

I think I would say that there is a cultural barrier... meaning that in today's culture in the States, a "better" way of doing marriage is presented to the extent that women are "brainwashed" into that submission will bring unhappiness. Another barrier would be education, meaning that women are simply not educated on the beauty of submission or do not truly know what Biblical submission is. Many have a warped idea of what submission is and how it impacts a marriage. Additionally, of course, there's the pride issue.

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Posted : 25 Aug, 2010 08:13 PM

I think you are 100% right on all your points!



Titus says let the older women teach the younger to love love their husbands. I wish more young girls grew up being taught that being a home maker is a higher calling than a career women, a much lesser calling.



This is the last paragraph from the John MacCarthur article I got the question from.



Of course, if every husband loved his wife as Christ loved the church (Eph. 5:25), there presumably would be less resistance to the biblical teaching on the role of wives. But some husbands, rather than presenting a Christlike model of leadership to which their wives joyfully submit, instead play the part of an idle tyrant. Unbelief, anger, passivity, abuse, ridicule, laziness�all those sinful attitudes cause many wives to question God�s charge to submit. But God�s Word answers with stunning clarity. We�ll take a look at that next time. http://www.gty.org/Blog/B100825



I have a feeling it's not to take over the role of the man if she feels the he is not doing the job to her standard.

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Posted : 25 Aug, 2010 08:32 PM

Yeah, a wife should never take over the role of her husband!



Example:

Let's say that hubby isn't leading family devotions. Should the wife take over and go pick out a devotional book and set the time of day for the devotions and lead the devotions? No... She should pray for her husband and offer gentle suggestions as the spirit leads. In my opinion anyway!

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Posted : 25 Aug, 2010 10:08 PM

Hey, guess what?!



I'm listening to Focus on the Family's radio broadcast right now and they're talking about submission! Cool coincidence, huh? It's a great broadcast so far. Oh, and their broadcasts are all on they're website if anyone wants to go there and listen too =)

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Posted : 26 Aug, 2010 09:49 AM

I think a pretty huge barrier is the hugely poor example of leadership that most men portray. Why in the world would anyone want to submit to someone that is a hypocrite and abuses their authority? Personally, I can't blame women too much for not wanting to submit to someone who is so unlike Christ. Women may be supposed to submit, but men are also supposed to be examples of leadership/love of Christ. However, there arises the dilemma of "why should I fulfill my role if they're not doing theirs?". We should have no excuse to be avoiding doing the right thing, especially not because someone else is failing. We need to strive to be what God wants us to be and not worry about what everybody else is doing/not doing. I don't think "Sorry God, I didn't do your will because they didn't" would go over very well.





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Posted : 26 Aug, 2010 09:07 PM

I agree with ya Mark! It is a cycle, both sides fail to follow God's clear instructions. And I think the man has the harder role, to be like Christ!!! Tell me that ain't a high standard! The women be like the church? Have you looked at the church lately?! But when the standard set by God is met, what a pedestal she gets put on! When a lady exhibits the grace and beauty of a godly woman! There is nothing more beautiful! So sad she is on the endangered species list.

Conservative feminism is doing more damage to the church than radical feminist!

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Posted : 27 Aug, 2010 09:23 AM

Ahahah, no excuses now:goofball:. It's not harder unless you make it harder. Just do what Jesus does, it's really pretty simple...and we're all supposed to be doing it anyway. Guys and gals!





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Posted : 27 Aug, 2010 09:55 AM

I agree with what Mark said. If the guy is doing what he's supposed to be doing, then submission should be second nature really. Why would a woman not want to follow a man who is loving her as Christ loves the church? It definitely goes both ways. It's easier to respond to someone appropriately when they're doing things the right way. When either of the spouses stops doing things the right way, the entire "mechanism" can break down.

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