I'm1 person who's really into revelations & the secret or deeper things of God. It's written that when Christ ascended, he gave gifts to men (some are positions or offices such as appostles & prophets...) while others are gifts of the Holy Spirit. Holy SPirit is the ultimate gift & I call him "the gift that keeps on giving!" Well when I was born again, I realized I received the gift of revelation bc I wouldn't understand spiritual things, & by the next 5 min I'd understand stuff worth volumes of books! I kept growing in this. I spent alot of time in fellowship with God & his word. Sometimes I'd spend entire days reading my bible...
Well since most ppl are here looking for their other half, I'd like to begin to share the revelation that God gave me on partnership. It started last year. I began to understand that God is romantic. Somethin u should know is that the words we use down here are shadows & types & the reality is in heaven. So if there's romance on earth, then it's a type, but then true romance comes from heaven. Everything that we are originally came from God. We are his image. Also God created the idea of romance & partnership even in the creation. Animals have & understand love & family.
Often I hear ppl say Jesus was single... but he came for love. It's written that he wanted a bride. Also Paul claimed that there was a mystery to marriage, & that the reality of marriage is actually about Christ & the church. So yes, Jesus is a romantic. Also, in the the prophets, God the Father revealed again & again that he wanted to make a bride out of Israel. It's written "thy maker is thy husband." In the book of revelations Jesus reminds us "remember your first love."
When we get born again, we become as infants in the faith, but we're supposed to grow fast until we become his bride. It says that we go from glory to glory. Not growing is not ok at all. Paul rebuked some ppl saying they should be adults by now, & instead they were as infants. What I discovered is that like prophets & ppls of the bible, one can grow super fast just by giving their heart to the Lord without reservation, cutting sin off AT THE ROOT, being in deep fellowship with his spirit.
Once one begins to mature, with maturity comes responsabilities, one of which is to fall romantically in love with the Lord. The Lord is our true love. He comes before all others & we become one in spirit with him. This love he referred to as ;I in u & u in me & all of us together in the Father.' When we court the Lord it's a very high form of worship because the desire of his heart is for his bride. In Genesis God prophesied to the woman saying that her desire would be for her husband (not just a man). God made us so that our deepest desire is for him as a husband.
(Running out of time, but I'll continue on this when I have time.)
According to you,the Lord has gifted you with the gift of Revelation;
Yet I do not believe you have a right understanding of Genesis 3:16;
Gen 3:16 UntoH413 the womanH802 he said,H559 I will greatlyH7235 multiplyH7235 thy sorrowH6093 and thy conception;H2032 in sorrowH6089 thou shalt bring forthH3205 children;H1121 and thy desireH8669 shall be toH413 thy husband,H376 and heH1931 shall ruleH4910 over thee.
The numbers coincide with Strongs Hebrew Concordance.
Nor do you have a right understand of courtship.
The bride never courts the groom,the Groom courts for and looks for His bride.
As the sheep never looks for the Shepherd,rather the sheep stray from the Shepherd while the Shepherd looks for His sheep.
John 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
John 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
To be saying you have been gifted with revelation yet there might not be any evidence to this, might be you trying to twist the Lords word to saying something He would not be saying to you.
Others should be seeing the Lords calling and gifting upon our lives,for Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall.
I would actually request that you not be reported & I thank you tremendously for your response. I am grateful that you do have freedom of speech... However I want to remind you that everything we do in the Lord is supposed to be for the purpose of building up & not tearing down. If I have the gift of revelation or not, it's actually not anything that I need to prove bec either way, u still need to seek the Lord... I am not your counselor or Holy Spirit. I am a sheep taught by the Lord.
You can believe however you like about my understanding, it doesn't really change it at all, and I am confident in the gift that God's given me and it has blessed many & has helped them come into their own revelation. Just so u know: understanding scriptures comes from God. It's not fleshly nor is it a formula. This is why God says the things of the spirit are foolishness to those of a worldly mind. For that reason I know that anyone who does not have ears to hear something will simply not hear it, regardless of how simple it is. Let me ask you: is it more biblical that I not be gifted than that I be gifted? Well, if I were or weren't how then do u determine that & how is it u figure out what I am gifted with? See the thing is u offer more doubts than answers.
I know what I've been gifted with bec I started understanding the bible before I actually read it. There were alot of things God would reveal to me & latter on when I'd read I'd find it. Now I also know u probably want to fight about all this... Either way u can't find proof. To you I'm either a liar or deceived & so technically I feel comfortable in letting you know that I'm ok with anything u believe, bec it doesn't affect my history with God... U can quote alot of scriptures & try to make them mechanic, but that's the thing: the real word of God isn't the letter. If u don't have insight in the spirit u don't have much more than the Jews...
In the Lord I really hope for the spirit of love, joy... to come to you so you're not judgemental & cause doubts to people... No one's called for that. The purpose of this thread is to encourage people to fall in love with the Lord & to understand that the greatest calling we have isn't as mere servants, or to salvation. We are called to be a bride & it is what the Lord desires of us. When someone's spiritually minded, they don't nitpick something... you have to see the purpose of the author & build in it. Otherwise your righteousness only makes pharisees look reasonable. I don't really have time to fight & destroy. Alot of people who write forums are into that. I've done my share when I was a baby christian & in a dream the Lord told me to stop it & he told me the people I was fighting with were my brothers irregardless of our differences. U might question the nature of this too... lol
U're free to believe whatever but I'm not going to waste anyone's time with Godless chatter. The appostles did speak of ppl who enjoy fighting... even about endless genealogies... If u understand the word & the spirit correctly, let that not be us.
THank you for sharing though, & yes, I'm about to address what u shared.
According to you,the Lord has gifted you with the gift of Revelation;Yet I do not believe you have a right understanding of Genesis 3:16;
FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO ENCOURAGE U WITH THE FACT THAT PPL ACTUALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES THE SAME. GIFTINGS & MEASURES COME INTO PLAY. FOR EXAMPLE: SPIRITUAL THINGS ARE SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED. ALSO THE SPIRIT OF THE PROPHETS IS SUBJECT TO THE PROPHETS. OUTSIDE OF THAT U WOULDN'T NECESSARILY INTERPRET SOMETHING THE SAME AS A PROPHET BC THE MEASURE OF UNDERSTANDING GIVEN TO YOU ISN'T THE SAME IN TYPE & MEASURE. THIS ACTUALLY FURTHER PROOVES THE POINT OF THE GIFT OF REVELATION: SOMEONE'S MADE TO SEE SOMETHING OTHERS DON'T. BUT MAKING THAT OUT TO BE A QUESTION OF MY MISUNDERSTANDING IS AS A BLIND MAN DEBATING WITH ONE WHO CAN SEE THAT THERE EXISTS A BALL OF FIRE THAT HANGS IN THE SKY CALLED THE SUN!!!!! HOW CAN THEY PROOVE THIS? IF U DON'T HAVE IT, U DON'T & U DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE IT, BUT IT LIVES IN ME...
You said:
Gen 3:16 UntoH413 the womanH802 he said,H559 I will greatlyH7235 multiplyH7235 thy sorrowH6093 and thy conception;H2032 in sorrowH6089 thou shalt bring forthH3205 children;H1121 and thy desireH8669 shall be toH413 thy husband,H376 and heH1931 shall ruleH4910 over thee.
The numbers coincide with Strongs Hebrew Concordance.
HMMMM U DIDN'T SHOW ME WHAT IT IS THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND???? ANOTHER REVELATION THE LORD HAD ACTUALLY SHOWED ME IS: IN THIS PROPHESY IN GENESIS, HE WAS SUMARIZING THE HISTORY OF THE EARTH & THE CHURCH IN A NUTSHELL. I FEEL SPIRITUALLY IMPRESSED NOT TO SHARE THE REST...
You said:
Nor do you have a right understand of courtship.
The bride never courts the groom,the Groom courts for and looks for His bride.
LET ME ALSO SHARE THIS: REREAD ACTS 17: 26-27. GOD DETERMINED THE TIMES & THE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO BE... NOTE SO THAT THEY WOULD SEEK HIM & FIND HIM. AGAIN HE WRITES ELSE WHERE THAT IF U 1. DRAW CLOSE TO HIM, THEN 2. HE WILL DRAW CLOSE TO YOU. AGAIN IF U READ THE SONG OF SONGS, THE GROOM WAITED FOR HIS LOVE OUTSIDE HER HOUSE, YET WHEN SHE OPENED THE DOOR... HE WAS GONE. SO WHAT DID SHE DO, WELL SHE DIDN'T SAY "HE'S THE GROOM, HE'LL COME BACK SOME DAY... NO IT SAYS SHE WENT ABOUT THE CITY LOOKING FOR HIM IN THE NIGHT, ASKING EVERYONE WHERE SHE COULD FIND HIM TO THE POINT OF THE BEAT DOWN. THIS IS HOW WE'RE TO PURSUE THE LORD. HE DOESN'T TEACH THAT HE'LL PURSUE US ALONE & HE DOESN'T ALWAYS SAY THAT HE'LL INITIATE. AGAIN, REVISIT THE PARABLE OF THE 10 VIRGINS. THEY WAITED FOR HIS COMING, DID THEY NOT?
You said:
As the sheep never looks for the Shepherd,rather the sheep stray from the Shepherd while the Shepherd looks for His sheep. John 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. John 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE LIKE ALOT OF PREACHERS I HEAR YOU'RE MIXING & MATCHING DIFFERENT PATCHES OF SCRIPTURES... I APPLAUSE U FOR TRYING... BUT LET ME REMIND U. LOOK AT THE RELATIONSHIPS YOU ARE COMPARING: SHEEP VS SHEPHERD IS AS SERVANT VS MASTER OR EVEN FATHER VS SON. IN THAT CONTEXT THE ORDER YOU MENTION IS CORRECT. BUT THAT'S NOT THE CONTEXT OF A BRIDE VS GROOM RELATIONSHIP, RIGHT? FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN JESUS FIRST BEGAN TO TEACH THE APPOSTLES, THEY SIMPLY CALLED HIM RABBONI (TEACHER)... BUT AS THEY GREW IN INTIMACY, HE ACTUALLY TELLS THEM THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER HIS SERVANTS, BUT HIS FRIENDS. DO U UNDERSTAND THAT THE LOVE ENCOUNTER WITH THE LORD ISN'T THE PLACE WHERE WE ARE CONSIDERED SERVANTS? IT'S EVEN HIGHER THAN THAN BEING SONS. WE ARE PARTNERS. YOU CAN'T SOW A NEW CLOTH TO AN OLD ONE, U ALSO CAN NOT MIX & MATCH MARITAL RELATIONS TO THOSE OF BRIDE & BRIDEGROOM. THE LORD IS THE HEAD OF THE RELATIONSHIP, THAT'S NOT EQUIVALENT TO HIM ALWAYS BEING THE INITIATOR. IF I WERE TO INITIATE LOVE TOWARDS MY HUSBAND, IT WOULD NOT MEAN THAT I'M GUIDING HIM. OTHERWISE GOD WOULDN'T TELL US TO SEEK HIM UNTIL WE FOUND HIM. BUT I ALSO ENCOURAGE TO READ IN THE OT THAT SARAH RESPECTED ABRAHAM, CALLED HIM MASTER... BUT WHEN SHE HAD TO STAND UP FOR SOMETHING, ABRAHAM SOUGHT THE LORD & HE TOLD HER TO DO WHATEVER SHE TOLD HIM. SO?? DOES THAT MEAN GOD APPROVED OR MADE SARAH THE HOUSEHOLD LEADER????
You said:
To be saying you have been gifted with revelation yet there might not be any evidence to this, might be you trying to twist the Lords word to saying something He would not be saying to you. Others should be seeing the Lords calling and gifting upon our lives,for Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall.
Agape' and Charis:
St.George
THERE REALLY AREN'T ANY BIBLICAL EVIDENCE OF ANY PERSON HAVING GIFT THAT I KNOW OF THAT WE ARE TOLD TO LOOK FOR, SO EVEN BRINGING THAT UP AS IF IT WERE POSSIBLE IS ERRONEOUS. THE LORD SAID WE'RE TO KNOW DISCIPLES BY LOVE. GOD GIFTING PPL ISN'T A BIG DEAL & IT'S LAUGHABLE WHEN BELIEVERS ATTACK BELIEVERS FOR BELIEVING THEY HAVE WHAT GOD SAID THEY MUST. ALL BELIEVERS MUST HAVE GIFTS, IT'S NOT A SUBJECT OF DEBATE. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE SAYING STUFF GOD DIDN'T TELL THEM, BUT LET'S NOT LOOSE THE REAL FOCUS HERE: JESUS BLED FOR EACH ONE OF US. PLEASE DON'T CHEAPEN THAT BY WHAT YOU BELIEVE THE OUTCOME OF THE GIFTINGS OF THE CROSS MAY BE.
THANK YOU FOR EVEN SUGESTING THAT I'M SOMEHOW TRYING TO TWIST GOD'S ARM THOUGH. INTERESTING! I ENCOURAGE U TO BE LIKE THE APPOSTLE PAUL, NOT WAISTING TIME IN JUDGEMENTS, ACCUSATIONS, ASSUMPTIONS... HE SAID HE KNOWS SOME PPL PREACH CHRIST FROM A PURE HEART & OTHERS FOR SELF GAIN, BUT HE DIDN'T CARE AS LONG AS THE CROSS WAS PREACHED. WELL WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT WE THINK OF OTHERS & JUST KEPT THE FOCUS ON CHRIST & GROWING HEAVEN WARD.
PRAISE THE LORD. AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION ON MY THREAD. NOW LET'S GET BACK TO LOVING, & PRAISING THE LORD. I BELIEVE HE WANTS US TO DO THAT PERSONALLY. AMEN?
