The two False Religions I am most Concerned about......
Posted : 19 Jul, 2010 09:09 AM
James
Instead of identifying your "enemies", you are demonizing them!
There is no problem in defining threats and people who might represent it. But when you throw an evil sauce over them, they do not become enemies but outcast.
And outcast easily becomes 2nd hand citizens, and 2nd hand citizens easily become non-persons..... and before you know it, nobody will care whether they live or die. And that my friend is exactly anti-christian (and anti american!)
I am not asking you to close your eyes and pretend there is no danger, as truly, your country is going through very frightning changes (which by the way have nothing to do with socialism)
I am asking you to closely examine your enemies with christian eyes.... or glasses of the love of Christ if you want.
As you cannot kill them nor put them in camps! The only way is to peacefully co-exist. It is not difficult nor impossible....
But it takes a certain attitude towards fear, danger and enemies.
If we had no Teacher in that, I would not have posted.
But we, you and I and all other christians, have indeed. And we must obey His teachings, in good and bad times, despite our concerns, worries and fears.
:waving:
P.S
Terrorism is not the same as islam. (Nor is the KKK the same as christianity)
And socialism is not the same as the Obama government.
The two False Religions I am most Concerned about......
Posted : 19 Jul, 2010 11:58 AM
Peace in the middle east and the larger world cannot be made when such seeds of hate are inbreed within the text of the Koran and the Islamic world. 57 or so Muslem nations representing over 1 Billion inhabitants of this earth subscribe to this. They inculcate this hatred into their media (TV, Movies, Drama�s, Magazines, newspapers , newscasts , childrens books and cartoons) what chance is there to build a bridge with such intolerance and hatred.? How many Christians practice their religion publicly in Mecca ?
None, It is illegal to do so on the penalty of death. Why is this ?
Why is there such hatred of Christians and Jews by Islamic people ?
The answers to these questions are found in the the text of the Koran itself
Listed here are Koranic verses which are the foundation for these beliefs (prejudice).
The Quran, virtually on every page, is a manifesto for religious intolerance. � Sam Harris
It is these beliefs that fuels organizations as Hamas, the Islamic Republic of Iran
The Islamic Jihad movement. Take them seriously as they take these teachings seriously.
This is no joke.
If you doubt the accuracy �just copy and paste the subsection eg Qur�an 4:160 to your web brower.
Qur�an 9:29-Fight against Christians and Jews �until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.�
Qur�an 4:91- If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.
. Qur�an 9:7-9-Don�t make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.
Qur�an 9:12-14-Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.
. Qur�an 9:5 Kill the nonbelievers wherever you find them.
Qur�an 2:191-2-Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
Qur�an (5:51) - �O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.�
Qur�an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.
Qur�an (4:48, 4:116)-Those who ascribe a partner to Allah (like Christians do with Jesus and the Holy Spirit) will not be forgiven. They have �invented a tremendous sin.�
Qur�an (4:51)-Jews and Christians believe in idols and false deities, yet they claim to be more rightly guided than Muslims.
Qur�an (5:51) Don�t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.
Qur�an (5:80) � �You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide.� Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.
Qur�an (3:85) - �And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.�
. Qur�an 9:6-Those who submit and convert to Islam will be treated well. (Those who don�t submit will be killed. See previous verse.)
Qur�an 5:53 Jews and Christians are losers.
Qur�an 5:59 Jews and Christians are evil-livers.
Qur�an 5:63 Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests.
Qur�an 5:72 Christians will be burned in the Fire.
Qur�an 5:73Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom.
Qur�an 9:30Christians and Jews are perverse. Allah himself fights against them.
Qur�an 9:34 Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis.
Qur�an 19:35-37�Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.�
Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell.
Qur�an 28:62-64 Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined?
Qur�an 40:73Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my parnters that you used to believe in?
Ishaq:364 �Muslims, take not Jews and Christians as friends. Whoever protects them becomes one of them, they become diseased, and will earn a similar fate.�
Qur�an 3:67 �Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was a true Muslim, surrendered to Allah (which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.�
The two False Religions I am most Concerned about......
Posted : 20 Jul, 2010 08:51 AM
Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; (KJV)
The two False Religions I am most Concerned about......
Posted : 20 Jul, 2010 11:33 AM
The two false religions you're concerned about, ok, so what are you doing to witness to those who belong to these religious groups about the love of Jesus Christ, and what God has done for you since you have be saved? And COMPEL them to come to Christ with your testimony of how you came to Jesus and were set free from your sins.
It would seem, if Paul and the apostles witnessed to the false religious cults of their day, the Judiaziers about Jesus Christ, and His death, burial, and resurrection and faith to believe that brings salvation.
If a person has seriously concerned about lost souls, then surely, the next step is to witness to them about the free gift of salvation God offers to ALL who belive. Is not this the command and call of the Great Commission, to GO and tell others about Jesus Christ, and make disciples of them, so they will know the truth and be set free, and have eternal life?
The two False Religions I am most Concerned about......
Posted : 20 Jul, 2010 01:56 PM
Since the matter has been brought up, I will say what God would have us to do here. Friends when I first got on the internet I got to know a certain young lady from the X Soviet Union.She came over here to the USA to work for the Summer in a summer camp.I went to meet her and take her traveling for a day. When I went to the Ukraine Katya returned the favor.She helped me meet my future wife and translate.On the last day of my trip Katya took me to meet her family.her Grandmaother had been a communist. This woman kissed me a thousand times thanking me for taking good care of her Grandaughter, while Katya was in the states. Katya did tell me her grandmother is a christian. It is God who brings people into our lives to share his love to them. Friends, Katya's grandmother was the directer of the economy, for the Ukraine.
If I felt like you James I would have lost the God given chance too share the love of Jesus. We are not to hate these people but preach love to them.They see Jesus in you!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing but personel testemony would I give here.
I really like my Russian/ Ukrainian friends.Dennis:prayingm:
The two False Religions I am most Concerned about......
Posted : 20 Jul, 2010 05:37 PM
The power of El-Sdadday (God Almighty vs The fears of men)
To Dennis:
Thank the Lord for His Loving kindness towards us,who once were the objects of His wrath.
Today many professing Christians live in fear,abject fear of the world,and those that are enemies of the Christ of God.
Where does this fear come from:
From not being mature in love.
1John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
Since we have the Holy Spirit living and dwelling within us why should we have fears, or do we have the Spirit of the Living God within us.
2Tim 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
2Ti 1:8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
We know the end of the story,we have the Omnipotent Sovereign Holy Spirit living within us,Let us therefore.
Go into the world,teach the nations,make disciples unto Yeshua of the peoples,then there might be one less enemy
of those people, that the Christians in America would be afraid of.
