I hope everyone has a great day,even PJ,hahaha,you have to Love/Agape' PJ.
O.C.= Old Covenant
N.C.= New Covenant
In the Old Covenant;the Father has given over 300 prophesies concerning the Messiah (Yeshua/Jesus).
There are also times where Yeshua/Jesus appeared on the earth,These are called Thoephanies or Christophanies.
1. Where are these appearances:
2. How did He show Himself:
3.Who did He appear to:
Here is one hint: The Angel of the Lord
Luke 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
John 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
Exo 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.
Exo 12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
Exo 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.
Exo 12:23 For the LORD will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the LORD will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.
Exo 12:24 And ye shall observe this thing for an ordinance to thee and to thy sons for ever.
Exo 12:25 And it shall come to pass, when ye be come to the land which the LORD will give you, according as he hath promised, that ye shall keep this service.
Exo 12:26 And it shall come to pass, when your children shall say unto you, What mean ye by this service?
Exo 12:27 That ye shall say, It is the sacrifice of the LORD'S passover, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when he smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses. And the people bowed the head and worshipped.
There are many people that believe that the God of the Old Covenant is not the God of the New Covenant.
They say Yeshua/Jesus is different then the God in the O.C.
I hope eveyone has fun searching the O.C.Scriptures,for some this might be the first time doing so,
for others this might be a refresher study.
I trust everyone will be Blessed by the Lord; in order to be a Blessing to those around you.
Actually, the Son of God appears numerous times in the Old Testament Scriptures (which our originally poster wants to call the O.C.).
According to John 1:1-4 Jesus created all things, and without Him was not anything made that was made. This understanding that Jesus is Creator echos the teaching of Paul (Colossians 1:16-17).
So then, Jesus appears in Genesis 1! It is Jesus who said, "Let there be light." And there was light. In Genesis 2, it was Jesus who met with Adam and told him about the trees of the Garden, and Jesus caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and made a wife for Adam.
In Genesis 3, It was Jesus who said, "Adam, Where are you?" And again it was Jesus who promised that the Seed of the Woman would crush the head of the Serpent, and Jesus made the coats of skins for Adam and Eve, and Jesus also who removed them from the Garden.
Now see if you can read through Genesis 4 and 5 and find the next clear statement about God walking with Man. That too would be Jesus.
This is amazing to me! Jesus liked calling Himself "Son of Man" apparently. He used that term to describe Himself more than any other. I don't recall the exact number but, it seems like it is something like 80 times He referred to Himself as the (not a) Son of Man. Isn't it amazing? BTW, that term is in the Old Testament many times. Heck, just read Ezekiel...it is there about every other verse in some chapters.
"Joh 10:34 Jesus said to them, "Don't your Scriptures say, 'I said, "You are gods"'?
Joh 10:35 The Scriptures cannot be discredited. So if God calls people gods (and they are the people to whom he gave the Scriptures),
Joh 10:36 why do you say that I'm dishonoring God because I said, 'I'm the Son of God'? God set me apart for this holy purpose and has sent me into the world. "
Jesus was quoting Psalm 82:6, when He said "I said, 'You are gods'". This Psalm goes on to say that man will die.
It is a mystery to me why He called Himself Son of Man most often. I supposed it could be because Creator God stepped out of Heaven and entered a human body to become as a mere man; He humbled Himself to become His creation. What title could be higher or more accurate to use? To me it is as if He is saying, "Look what I AM did for you!" Son of man, God's Son, Creator of all things.
The Angel of the Lord here is Yeshua/Jesus as He has taken on the form of and angel.
Gen 16:1 Now Sarai Abram's wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar.
Gen 16:2 And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai.
Gen 16:3 And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife.
Gen 16:4 And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes.
Gen 16:5 And Sarai said unto Abram, My wrong be upon thee: I have given my maid into thy bosom; and when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: the LORD judge between me and thee.
Gen 16:6 But Abram said unto Sarai, Behold, thy maid is in thy hand; do to her as it pleaseth thee. And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled from her face.
Gen 16:7 'And the angel of the LORD' found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.
Gen 16:8 And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai.
Gen 16:9 'And the angel of the LORD' said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands.
Gen 16:10 'And the angel of the LORD' said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.
Gen 16:11 'And the angel of the LORD' said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
Gen 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
Gen 16:13 And she called the name of the LORD that spake unto her, 'Thou God seest me': for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth me? This is El Roeh
John chapter One, tells us that Jesus was in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God, and the Word was ith God, and the WORD became flesh and lived among us.
The word of God according to Genesis chpater One, proves this: And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness.
Therefore, IF God is Jesus, and Jesus is God, and God is the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is God, wouldn't it go to reason that Jesus is also the God of the Old Testament (Old Covenant) and the same Jesus and God of the New Testament (New Covenant) INCARNATED?
I would think so... according to scripture.The Godhead Trinity, of the Old and New Testaments, three in one...
Hey there, everybody. So, I'm discussing this topic w/ someone and we were looking at Daniel chapter 3 and wondering if you all think that the fourth "person" in the fiery furnace was actually a member of the Godhead incarnate v. an angel... ??
11 But the angel of the Lord called out to him from heaven, �Abraham! Abraham!� �Here I am,� he replied. 12 �Do not lay a hand on the boy,� he said. �Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.�
If it was an "average" angel the angel would not have used a possessive word such as "me", he would have used Him/God/Lord.
This is great I never put it together that way and I thank all of you for your insite!!
Yes, ditto to what InHisHonour said... Thanks you... The reason I was a little confused at first w/ this topic is because I hadn't made a connection b/w the Angel of the Lord and Jesus. I've always interpreted "Angel" literally. So, this is great... I knew that Jesus was credited w/ being the creator based upon the various Scriptural references to that, but didn't really have an understanding of this beyond that!
