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Admin	FOR IT IS WRITTEN... Posted : 31 Mar, 2010 10:07 AM Hi Garrett, Sorry, I'm just nw getting back to your comments. And since the other thread has left the viewing and has gone on to page 2. I thought I would just share these few passages , not a long list...lol) with you in response to your comment, wherein you stated that we, as believers don't have authority to rebuke, and that this is only done by Jesus. Therefore, I will decrease in my comments, and allow the Word of God to increase and speak for Himself. So you will see where I was coming from, these passages wll show you just how power and authority you and all believers have through Christ Jesus. And that it is Jesus who has given us , ALL born again believers who are His disciples. authority and power through the power of His Holy Spirit, which we all receive when we believe, receive, and accept Him into our lives. For It Is Written: "Then Jesus said to His disciples, It is impossible that no offenses should come, but woe to the person through whom they do come! It would be better for that person if a millstone were hung around his/her neck, and he/she thrown into the sea, than that he/she should offend one of these little ones. If your brother/sister sins against you, REBUKE him/her, and if he/she repents, forgive him/her. And if he/she sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to you, saying I repent, you shall forgive him/her. Luke chaper 17 "And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, and be patient, be in humility ( humility does not lessens being firm) CORRECTING THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the TRUTH, and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, who has taken them captives to do his wil." 2 Timothy chapter2 "Therefore, I charge you before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom. Preach (teach) the word! Be ready in season and out of season. CONVINCE, REBUKE, AND EXHORT, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when people will not endure SOUND DOCTRINE, but according to their OWN DESIRES (ideas), because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers, and they (the teachers or the people), will turn their(the people, teachers) ears away from the TRUTH, and be turned aside to fables. BUT you be WATCHFUL in ALL THINGS, endure afflictions, do the work of an evengelist, and fulfill your ministry". 2 Timothy chapter 4 "ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, FOR REPROOF, FOR CORRECTION, FOR INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS, so that the man/woman of God may be complete, thoroughly EQUIPPED FOR EVERY GOOD WORKS." 2 Timothy chapter 3 "Those who are sinning REBUKE in the presence of ALL, so that the rest also may fear, Therefore, I charge you before God and the Lord Jesus Christ and the elect angels that you observe these things without prejuduce, doing nothing with partiality." I Timothy chapter 5. "For the grace of God has appeared to ALL men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present times, looking for the bkessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, so that He might redeem us for Himself from every lawless deed and pruify for Himself His own speacial people, zealous for good works. Therefore, SPEAK these things, EXHORT, and REBUKE WITH ALL AUTHORITY. And let no one despise you. Titus chapter 2 _________________________________________________ These are my (Ella's) words of encouragemnet :Hope this helps ALL beleivers to know that we have not been called to be passive Christians especially, when those who profess and confess Jesus Christ, are in error. Tough love skills is what God calls us to use, and a rebuke is a spiritually sound tough love skill which God uses on us. Never count yourself less than who and what God has called you to be through Christ Jesus. For we have not been give the spirit of fear or timidity, but we have been given the spirit of POWER, LOVE, AND A SOUND MIND to do the work of God's ministry. Finally says the Lord:, If anyone among you wanders from the TRUTH, and someone TRUNS him/her BACK, let him(the person who help turn the other back) that he/she who turns a sinner from the error of his/her ways will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins(the sins of the one who was truned around, and the sins of the person who helped turn the person back to Christ) James chapter 5. Ella: Of course, there is much more, but I find this sufficient and well pleasing to God.. ella Post Reply
View Profile History	FOR IT IS WRITTEN... Posted : 31 Mar, 2010 09:41 PM Ella, Sorry for not responding sooner. To be completely honest, I've been looking over this thread. I usually just glance at the titles and choose from there. What you've said, and quoted here makes a lot of sense. I don't really disagree with you here. I don't completely remember what the older thread was even about, but I feel like there must have been some sort of miscommunication there somewhere. I agree that we have to help our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ when they sin. We have to show them where they've messed up. What I was trying to say was that Jesus was straight forward with a lot of the religious leaders of that time because of His authority. We don't have that kind of authority. It goes only to the King of Kings. The reason we don't have that kind of authority is twofold: 1. We're not God. :laugh: 2. Jesus was the PERFECT lamb. We are IMPERFECT. We have sinned and therefore don't share the authority Christ has. Thanks for the reply. Sorry about not being more clear. And for taking so long to respond. Rude, I know. I hope you enjoy your... umm... celebration of Christ's resurrection! :angel: In Christ Garrett Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	FOR IT IS WRITTEN... Posted : 1 Apr, 2010 08:26 AM I do believe that the bible is our standard for judgment. The bible says homosexuality is wrong, and it doesn't matter how many people say "it's ok". It's a sin, and while homosexuals can become part of God's church, they need to stop sinning...just like if a thief wanted be baptized. It's all sin, and anyone that is trying to serve God should be trying to avoid all sin. But can you see the difference? The bible is clear about homosexuality and murder. It's sin. What about different beliefs that aren't "sin"? Free will? Once save always saved? Observing Easter/Christmas/Passover? Water Baptism? Not working on Sabbath? Belonging to a denomination? I'm pretty sure different people here have differing viewpoints on those subjects with quite a few scriptures to back them up. So when someone says "we don't have to keep the sabbath holy! Heresy!" or if someone says "Predestination makes God evil! Heresy!" then they're going to have words...because they both think they're right and they both think they have God/the bible on their side. My continuing question on here is how do you judge a persons heart by calling their beliefs/interpretations sin on certain matters? You can't...because if you're rebuking someones interpretation of the bible, then you're admitting that it's possible for humans to misinterpret the bible and bringing your own interpretation into firing range as well. I just think anyone that thinks they get to judge those things needs to be able to humbly judge themselves with the same standard...or they eliminate themselves from being able to judge. Only God can judge the heart. I guess my point is...if someone believes they are serving God, and if they aren't living in open, willing, obvious sin...then I don't think anybody should call their beliefs or motives evil. We don't know their heart, or where they're at in their walk, and we don't know God's plan in their lives. I suppose that kinda leaves "witnessing about your beliefs" or "living your beliefs" as the only option to really convince other Christians. "This is what I believe is right" and "this is how I try to live" instead of "Your beliefs are evil". Show your fellow Christians how God is leading in your life by your example and let the Holy Spirit and their conscience do the rest. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	FOR IT IS WRITTEN... Posted : 1 Apr, 2010 10:34 PM Nice Hitman. Always enjoy hearing what you have to say. :peace::peace: In Christ Garrett Post Reply
View Profile History	FOR IT IS WRITTEN... Posted : 6 Apr, 2010 08:32 PM Good word.:peace: ella Post Reply
View Profile History	FOR IT IS WRITTEN... Posted : 7 Apr, 2010 09:27 AM Don't Hit The mark: It is not as complicated as many try to make it, the problems come in, when you hear that word interpretation. Christians are called to believe, there is a minor place where the word interpretation would fit, but it is with scripture to scripture. If people would obey the word, you would not have the divisions. We are responsible for what we believe and what we try tell others is right. Post Reply