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Posted : 27 Feb, 2010 07:05 AM

I know that many seem to have been taught that you must interpret the word, but my question to is how does faith cometh? Why do you think you are an interpreter?

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Posted : 27 Feb, 2010 07:51 AM

dear phillip,,,, if i remember right faith comes by hearin the word....

let me give you an example that we have used in the last few days..

lets say you read the old testament and you see that you are to stone to death your child for bein disobedient lets say..

or your neighbor for workin on the sabbath.. etc etc..



now if you just read that in a verse and you had faith that that was what you were sposed to do ..and you went and did it .. and even though you got the HOLY SPIRIT in you to help guide you..



do you think you might would be incorrect for doing so now?



why might one think that may be incorrect now..?

my belief is if you read the whole bible and intrepret it all and not just a few verses that commanded folks to do so back in the old days..



i believe youd find that JESUS tells us to love our neighbor as ourselves.. would you really wanna be stoned to death? i know i wouldnt..

so then if you read along also youd find that the bible also tells us we are to follow what is laid out by the governing authorities as well. so see youd also be breaking the laws made by our governments as well to stone someone to death.. less it was self defence..



when one sees a verse that stands out to em , i find it very helpful to look at the verses right smart above it and right smart below it as well to take in the context it was written as well...



when we see or read anything we automatically interpret what we read.. .. our brains automatically does it.. and when readin the word or hearing the word we do have the HOLY SPIRIT to interpret for us as well..

yet we still have to make sure that we are listening to the HOLY SPIRITS intrepretation and not our interpretations.. ..



we have to understand that we all can be wrong at times , because we all dont believe all the exact same things..

so sometimes were not hearin the HOLY SPIRIT right or sometimes others are not hearin the HOLY SPIRIT right.. we have to make that call for ourself.. each one of us does..



also something to keep in mind is that even the kjv bible you read today has been changed before because of a misenterpretation of a few words...... so sometimes it pays to look at the original , what hebrew and the greek writings ..to make sure of a words meaning ....



ole cattle

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Posted : 27 Feb, 2010 08:15 AM

Good post Cattle,



In the original 1611 edition of the KJV, the writers said to check the scriptures carefully against the original text because, as hard as they tried, they were only human and made mistakes.



It remains to this day, one of the most reliable interpretations, even though it has been attributed over 200 transcription errors, that is still far below the over 900 in the NIV, not to mention some of the lesser known versions.



I no longer have the book that lists all these, or I would have been more accurate with the numbers. However, it is staggering to think about. The best of all was the NKJV with fewer than 200 errors.



Be blessed,

Leon

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Posted : 27 Feb, 2010 08:32 AM

dear leon , i didnt remember the number or the year they made the changes right off. thanks



and just to be clear folks, im not knockin the bible . i love the bible ,the word of GOD.. nkjv and the kjv are the ones i use..



also the HOLY SPIRIT will never lead you wrong.. just remember man can and ourselves can..

ole cattle

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Posted : 27 Feb, 2010 10:22 AM

The question to ask is "What is faith"

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Posted : 27 Feb, 2010 10:26 AM

That is a good question but the whole topic is the where the common misunderstanding is.



What is Faith?



How does faith?



How do you release your faith?



How do you strentghten your faith?

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Posted : 27 Feb, 2010 11:06 PM

Quote: It remains to this day, one of the most reliable interpretations, even though it has been attributed over 200 transcription errors, that is still far below the over 900 in the NIV, not to mention some of the lesser known versions."



I would be most interested in the source that states the Bible contains over 200 transcription errors! There are a few copyist errors however:



a) no original manuscript has ever been found with an error in it



b) they are relatively rare



c) in most cases we know which one is wrong from the context or the material found in parallel passages



d) in no case is the doctrine of Scripture affected



e) they vouch for the accuracy of the copying process since the scribes who copied them knew there were errors in the manuscripts but were duty bound to copy what the text said



f) they dont affect the central message of the Bible

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Posted : 28 Feb, 2010 03:50 AM

I will find the name of the study for you and post it here along with where to get a copy of it.



Please note that it is not the original manuscript that contains the errors, it is the English translation of that manuscript. And most of them have been attributed to common phrases from that time period that are no longer in use today. Many of which, the original meaning is lost.



The mistakes in the newer translations have been mostly attributed to the doctrine beliefs of the translators. The most common of which are in reference to the Rapture, either pre, mid, or post tribulation, depending on who the publisher is.



Give me a few days to look up the details, it has been a few years since I had it all in my possession.



Blessings,

Leon

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Posted : 1 Mar, 2010 09:55 AM

Very kind of you Leon and thanks!

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Posted : 3 Mar, 2010 09:02 AM

Chering,



Please bear with me. I haven''t forgotten you. The guy I gave it to cannot find it, so I emailed the guy who gave it to me. Hopefully I will hear from him in a couple of days.



It was a study by a bible college about the errors from the KJV to the newer versions. However Zondervan, who publishes the NIV said the only reason they had so many errors was that the KJV was so inaccurate.



Obviously this started a huge war back and forth, but ended with an independent firm checking the accuracy of all statements.



It is a small booklet, but you won't be able to put it down. I hope he gets back to me soon. I want to order another copy for myself.



Blessings,

Leon

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Posted : 4 Mar, 2010 08:01 AM

Hi Leon and thanks again!



I would definately be interested in the credentials of this "study" as in my heart I know that God has preserved his Word without error and it disturbs me to think of those who cast doubt on the integrity of this remarkable book of Truth.



I would take the "double edge sword" and slice the "error data" to smitherines! :laugh:



Blessings!

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