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klmartin62

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Posted : 12 Feb, 2010 06:53 AM

Who has dominion over the earth at this time? Why do you think that?



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Leon

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Posted : 12 Feb, 2010 07:15 AM

The question is best answered by what you believe, for man believes with the heart unto rightousenous, our helper, the holy spirit , the spirit of truth is here to lead and guide believers into all truth.



Satan is still the God of this world, until he is thrown into the pit.



Why do I believe that: Gen1:26 � And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.



Lu 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.



2nd Cor4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.



Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.



When Jesus left the earth he then delegated his authority over to the church, believers have authority over Satan and his demons.



Eph 2:4, But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

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Posted : 12 Feb, 2010 07:44 AM

matthew 18:11 " for the son of man came to save that which was lost."



We have to ask ourselves what all was lost when adam and eve fell into sin. One was dominion over earth. Jesus came and took back what was once ours and we receive it thru him when we recieve him as our saviour. So is the question your really asking who has greater dominion on earth right now? God always does because his perfect will, will always be done. Even though it may seem satan my still rule. Jesus took it back on the cross and when we believe in his name.



God sent prophesy of these days so thus gods perfect plan is forming togather. He always has the upper hand. 7 is always greater than 6.

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Posted : 12 Feb, 2010 07:22 PM

Man was given dominion in Gen. 1:28. Contrary to popular belief, at the fall man kept dominion, not Satan.. However we have never been very hard to manipulate so Satan has no reason to want it for himself.



One of the reasons Jesus had to come to earth as a man was this dominion. God, having given us dominion, couldn't go back on his word because God cannot lie. By coming as a man, Christ could then act on our behalf without our asking. Just another reason God had to come in the flesh



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Leon

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Posted : 12 Feb, 2010 07:30 PM

Yes it was given to man but you forgot the rest.

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Posted : 12 Feb, 2010 11:51 PM

Okay, I'll bite. What "rest" are you talking about? Do you think Satan stole it from us at the fall? Impossible! Dominion belonged to God alone and He passed it on to man, it would b like saying Satan stole your grace. Absurd! The only one capable of taking a gift from God away is God Himself. You can try to twist a verse herenand there to mean what you want, but you better come to me with more than out of context verses. They mean nothing.



The Bible gives us wonderful stories with examples of all that God wants us to know. If you want to convince me, show me an example. It should be no problem if it is truth.



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Posted : 13 Feb, 2010 01:18 AM

When you believe the bible Leon there is no twisting it is when you don't believe what is written, that you have to twist it. to be right

It right in your bible.

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Posted : 13 Feb, 2010 07:11 PM

I think that we still have dominion over the earth or at least God wants us to have dominion. I think it kind of goes along with the choice that God gives us. He has given us the responsibility to have dominion over the earth but we have to accept that calling. If we as Christians in this world set our hearts to having dominion over the earth once again, I think that we could take it back. However I feel like since we have lost control and not taken that responsibility seriously, I believe that God has dominion over the earth,but because He is a God that wants us to choose to live for Him and to accept His ways and we have not taken dominion over the earth, Satan has done what he can to grasp control of the earth, yet in the end God's Will will happen whether we are on board or not. I hope that wasn't too hard to follow. Good post!!

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klmartin62

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Posted : 13 Feb, 2010 07:26 PM

Stormcountry,



The part most people have troubl with is, if we still have dominion, that means we are responsible for what the world has become. We don't like that, we would rather blame Satan. Satan may be the prince of this world, but dominion belongs to man. That is why Revelation says power is given to him for an hour. What other power does man have to give Satan?



Good post and thanks for answering.



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Leon

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Posted : 13 Feb, 2010 07:36 PM

Yeah we often don't want to take responsibility for something when its not a good thing!! But hey, something positive happens and we'll all claim that one, haha!!

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Posted : 13 Feb, 2010 08:28 PM

Question how does a un regenarate man exercise his authority?

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