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christmas pagan??? easter pagan??? lent pagan???
Posted : 6 Dec, 2009 07:38 PM

Who has seen Michael Rood's lecture "the jonah code"? In the lecture he tells the history of these pagan based traditions. Who knows anything about the Feast of the LORD? Did you know that YAHWAH is calling us back to the Torah? please tell me your answers on these subjects my brothers and sisters. Know this though i love you all and i am not questioning anyones faith or their love for YAHWAH. If your not familiar with why i am using HIS name YAHWAH. That is because most Bibles have been changed to read LORD or GOD when HIS name that HE gave Moses on Mount Sinai is YAHWAH and he asked to be called by it. The Scriptures were changed because of Rabbinic law that says HIS name is too holy to be read or said even though HE asked to be called this. There are many different ways that people spell it but I can't write Hebrew on here or I would write it like it should be written in Hebrew. What do you know about the appointed times and seasons or YAHWAH? Again i love you very much I just want to see what you think and if any of you are looking in the direction of keeping the Torah a commandment that YASHUA kept the whole time HE was here on earth. YASHUA is the Hebrew name of JESUS, HE was never really called JESUS as the j sound was not even used then nor is JESUS a Hebrew name. So i hope no one gets mad or offended I only want to speak in peaceful ways about these topics. May the peace of YAHWAH be with you always

your brother in YASHUA

R

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Posted : 12 Dec, 2009 02:22 AM

I'm with you.

"How did these nations serve their gods even so will I do likewise." (Deut 12:30, 2Kings 17:2-3).

Christ became the Passover Lamb for one and all times. The blood of the Lamb will cause Satan to pass over us; sorry no Easter. Where it's translated Easter in the King James the Greek word was Passover (look in the Strong�s Concordance Greek Dictionary word #3957). Unfortunately God's holidays are apparently too serious and no fun.



Let's honor God like the pagans honored theirs, after all it's all for the kids. Right?



Paul

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Posted : 12 Dec, 2009 11:38 AM

R...do you pronounce your name the New World way with the "hard" consonant or the European way with the silent "T" or perhaps the older Macedonian way where the "P" is silent? or does in make a difference by what name a "rose" is called?



Just askin'?

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Posted : 12 Dec, 2009 09:03 PM

I don't know if my sarcasm was understood correctly.



We should not honor God the way the pagans did and do.



There were 12 tribes in Egypt not just the tribe of Judah, Christ is are Passover and we should continue to observe that holiday as it is written.



Let God do the judging



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Posted : 13 Dec, 2009 09:42 PM

calling me by any name makes no difference i am not your CREATOR and HE told you to call HIM YAHWAH at Mount Sinai when we entered into a covenant with HIM and we broke that and HE sent HIS son YAHSHUA which means from YAH,,you can call it what you will and make fun all you want but the fact of the matter is YAHWAH has asked us to serve HIM the way HE laid out in the scriptures the same Feast and commandments that were written before are still in action today as they should have always been but we as followers of religion have forgotten HIS Torah and chosen to follow man made law and traditions worshiping on sungod day is not keeping the Sabbath and nor is changing the appointed Feast,,YAHSHUA said in Mattithyahu (Matthew) "don't think that i came to destroy the Torah or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to complete" now if YAHSHUA said that HE kept the Torah meaning the instructions don't you think brother that we should keep them as well,,you know that YAHSHUA when He was here did everything against the Pharisee,,they had laws they have made that are still in effects today,,called rabbinic law,,YAHSHUA broke all of them HE could while HE was here and that my brother is why they killed HIM,,they were afraid that their religious system was being threatened and they were not happy the same way many religious systems today have told you it is alright to celebrate pagan holidays like easter as well that one comes from way back when nimrod was building a world religion in babylon and YAHWAH told us not to learn the ways of the people that were in the land HE was giving us right before we entered the land HE said not learn their ways and HE does not want us to do them and say we are doing them to HIM,,,may the peace of YAHWAH be with you brother

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2009 12:41 PM

Sir I give you your props on what you asked and stated and I agree that we should do just as the Holy scriptures tells us to do and by saying that I ask you to please tell me what day is the Sabbath we as Christians should honor and keep?Also I have written a book intitled The Body of Christ that I would like to send to you and to anyone that will email me at [email protected]

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2009 05:20 PM

The best advice is God's Word.



Col2:16 "Let no man judge you in meat, or in drink, or of a holyday, or of the new moon, or of the Sabbath"



Romans14:4-6 in part"...Who are you to judge another man's servant?..."one man esteems one day above another: another esteems every day. Let everyman be fully persuaded in his own mind..."



Christ got a lot of flak for healing on the Sabbath and for allowing his disciples to literally harvest grain to eat (corn is a mistranslation of the original Greek word) on the Sabbath.



Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath. He is our rest every day, but if one wants to honor one day only a week that�s between them and God.



I am glad to see people trying and interested in God's Word.

Because as we see the average person is either too busy or openly not interested at all. Let everyone go their way towards God or away that is the freedom we have.



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Posted : 15 Dec, 2009 12:26 PM

thank you brother Paul

Col 2:16-23 "Let no one therefore judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths -- WHICH ARE A SHADOW OF WHAT IS TO COME--BUT THE BODY OF THE MESSIAH. 18 Let no one deprive you of the prize, one who takes delight in false humility and WORSHIP of messengers, taking his stand on what he has not seen, puffed up by his FLESHLY MIND, 19 and not holding fast to the HEAD, from whom all the BODY--nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments--grows with the growth of ELOHIM. 20 If, the, you died with MESSIAH from the elementary matters of the world, do you subject yourselves to dogmas: 21 "Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle"-- which are all to perish with use--according to the COMMANDS AND TEACHINGS OF MEN? 23 These indeed have an appearance of wisdom in self-imposed worship, humiliation and harsh treatment of the body--of no value at all, only for satisfaction of the flesh.

sometimes the whole Body is needed to better understand



Yirmeyahu (Jeremiah) 10 1-6

"Hear the word which YAHWAH speaks to you, O house of Yisra'el (Israel). 2 Thus said YAHWAH, DO NOT LEARN THE WAY OF THE NATIONS, and do not be awed by the signs of the heavens, for the nations are awed by them.

3 "For the laws of these people are worthless, for one cuts a tree from the forest, work for the hands of the craftsman with cutting tool.

4 "They beautify it with silver and gold, they strengthen it with nails and hammers so that it does not topple.

5 " They are like a rounded post, and they do not speak. They have to be carried, because they do not walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they do no evil, nor is it in to do any good"

6 There is none like YOU, O YAHWAH. YOU are great and great is YOUR NAME in might.



so brother still think we should let our brothers and sisters stumble on the trees they cut down, relaxing them with verses taken out of context. I don't think we should NOT judge our family but we are to teach and to tell them when they are stumbling. I love you very much dear brother thank you

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Posted : 15 Dec, 2009 06:44 PM

haha sorry i meant to write i DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD JUDGE OUR FAMILY HAHA my bad:ROFL:

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Posted : 16 Dec, 2009 11:25 PM

No offense taken Icebro. Yes, it is always better to read the entire chapter not just one verse but I leave that to those who are truly interested.



My intent was not to ease the minds of those that are honoring God the way pagans honored their gods (Duet12:30, 2Kings17:33�not 2Kings17:2-3 which I posted earlier...sorry). But rather to say that if one man considers everyday holy to the Lord and another just Saturday or just Sunday they should not be judged on this point.



Certainly Yule logs, trees, rabbits, eggs, or sunrise services (Eze8:16 "...between the porch & the altar, about 25 men with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, & their faces toward the east; and they worshiped the sun toward the east." These have no place in the worship of God.



I used to "party" and would conveniently read over passages regarding excess of drink...until I was cut down by God.



God's word is a two edged sword (Heb4:12, Eph6:17, Rev1:16), it will cut for you but it will also cut against you (Luk6:41). We must let it cut against us where we err, then humble ourselves and change and grow.



Paul

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Posted : 24 Dec, 2009 01:19 PM

i love you paul sorry for anything i have said to you not out of complete love

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