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Posted : 25 Jul, 2024 04:03 PM

One of the most famous lines of the King James Bible – at least in witchcraft studies – is Exodus 22:18, β€œThou shalt not suffer a witch to live.” The line was used to justify England’s major witch hunts, as when self-appointed Witch-Finder General Matthew Hopkins included it on the front of his pamphlet about catching witches.



In the 1640s, during England's Civil War, Hopkins was single-handedly responsible for killing 300 people. He used the King James Bible as a religious justification for hunting and executing witches. But the entire thing was a mistranslation from the Hebrew word mekhashepha



Greek translations of the Old Testament transformed the Hebrew word mekhashepha into the Greek pharmakeia. But neither word means witch. Mekhashepha likely meant a herbalist or a poisoner. When the word was first translated into Greek by Jewish sages around the 3rd century BCE, they used the Greek word pharmakeia, which also meant herbalist or poisoner.



Where, exactly, did the King James Bible get "witch"? The King James Bible was being translated in the middle of the European witch trials. In the 17th century, witches were known for killing people by invisible means, like poisoners. As many as 100,000 people were executed for witchcraft in the 16th and 17th centuries, so it was easy to insert witches into the Bible with a warning to kill them. Plus, King James had a personal reason to hate witches

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Posted : 25 Jul, 2024 04:03 PM

In 1590, when he was King of Scotland, James began to persecute witches. He was convinced that witches tried to kill him by calling up a storm when he was on a ship with his new wife. James considered this treason and ordered the arrest of dozens of suspected witches.



King James ordered one of the main suspects, a woman named Agnes Sampson, to be locked up in his castle. The King personally questioned Agnes while she was tortured. Agnes was shaved, and her head was wrenched with a rope while the King looked on with β€œgreat delight.”



James also wrote a book on witchcraft called Daemonologie in 1597, and one of his first acts after becoming King of England was passing harsher laws against witchcraft in 1604. So the King James Bible attack on witches was probably exactly what King James wanted

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Posted : 25 Jul, 2024 08:49 PM

The word mekhashepha was translated as "witch" in the Ben Yehuda Hebrew Dictionary

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2024 12:49 AM

HomelessChristian, what is your point? I take it that you do not believe in literal witches even though you are reading the very scripture verse that tells you what to do with them. Secondly, you are trying to use wrongful deaths to debunk this verse if you will.

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2024 04:54 AM

A perfect subject for Halloween

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2024 06:37 AM

Christson2, are you in favor of burning witches?

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2024 08:04 PM

The only good witch is a dead witch.

I don't think the dead witches are good either.

The Bible mentions magicians more than witches.

Daniel was called a magician. (Daniel 4:8-9; Daniel 5:11-12)

We would not want Daniel put to death for being a witch.

Acts 13 had a sorcerer and Paul confronted him for his trickery and deceit and struck him with blindness. And there was Simon the Sorcerer as well. (Acts 8:9)

I don't recall any executing witches in the New Testament.

I think some people should definitely be locked up.

Certainly, there are people deserving of death. But innocent people invariably get accused of things they did not do and suffer wrongful deaths on wrong information and being falsely accused.

The Old Testament was more liberal with the Death Penalty than we are these days. Die for not keeping the Sabbath. Die for adultery. Die for cursing God. Die for relations with an animal. Die for same sex relations with a man. Die for touching what you weren't to touch. Now people will have you die for being a conservative Christian and they will celebrate acts of disobedience to anything scriptural as a God given right.

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Posted : 10 Aug, 2024 07:18 PM

The WITCH of Endor....



1 Samuel 28:9

King James Version

9 And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die?



Some people and their mental gymnastics to discount the KJV....

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