Author	Thread: Let's notice who's going to Bash Charismatics on here
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Let's notice who's going to Bash Charismatics on here Posted : 1 Jun, 2023 03:28 PM The Charismatic movement is an interdenominational Christian renewal movement and is one of the most popular and fastest-growing forces within the Christian world today. The movement traces its roots to 1906, at the Azusa Street mission in Los Angeles, California, a Methodist-sponsored revival. It was there that people claimed to have been “baptized by the Holy Spirit” in the manner recorded in Acts chapter 2 during the celebration of Pentecost. People speaking in tongues and miracles of healing roused people to a spiritual frenzy. The people who attended those meetings spread their enthusiasm throughout the United States, and the Pentecostal/Charismatic movement began. By the early 1970s, the movement had spread to Europe, and during the 1980s the movement expanded, with a number of new denominations evolving from it. It is not unusual to see its influence in many other denominations such as Baptists, Episcopalians, and Lutherans, as well as non-denominational churches. The movement takes its name from the Greek words charis, which is the English transliteration of the Greek word for “grace,” and mata, which is the Greek word meaning “gifts.” Charismata, then, means “grace gifts.” It emphasizes the manifestations of the gifts of the Holy Spirit as a sign of the presence of the Holy Spirit. These gifts are also known as the biblical “charisms,” or spiritual gifts which supposedly give an individual influence or authority over large numbers of people. The prominent gifts among these “charisms” are speaking in tongues and prophesying. Charismatics hold that the manifestations of the Holy Spirit given to those in the first-century church may still be experienced and practiced today. The Charismatic movement is most known for its acceptance of speaking in tongues (also known as glossolalia), divine healing, and prophecies as evidence of the Holy Spirit. Most meetings are for praying and spirited singing, dancing, shouting “in the spirit,” and raising hands and arms in prayer. Also, anointing the sick with oil is often part of the worship service. These are the primary reasons for the movement’s growth and popularity. While growth and popularity are certainly desirable, they cannot be used as a test for truth. The question remains: is the Charismatic movement scriptural? We can best answer that question this way: we know that since the creation of mankind Satan’s insidious master plan has been simply to put a veil between God’s children and God’s inerrant Word. It began in the Garden of Eden when the serpent asked Eve, “Did God really say . . .?” (Genesis 3:1), thereby raising doubt as to the authority and authenticity of what God had said. Ever since that day, he continues to attack the inerrancy and sufficiency of the Bible. Without question, we know that Satan has stepped up the pace of this strategy (1 Peter 5:8). Today, we are witnessing a growing menace of demonic activity in the realm of the miraculous. Where Satan does not succeed in taking the Bible from us, he works hard at taking us from the Bible. He does this simply by getting Christians to focus their attention on the claims of men and women to some supernatural experience. As a result, those who seek after the experiences of others have neither time nor interest in searching the Scriptures for God’s truth. There is no denying that God performs miracles. Some of what occurs in the Charismatic movement very well may be a true work of the Holy Spirit. However, the core truth is this: the Body of Christ does not need new apostles, nor new faith healers, nor self-styled miracle workers. What the Church needs is to return to the Word of God and proclaim the whole counsel of God in the power and love of the Holy Spirit. Post Reply
Streetevangelist520^ View Profile History	Let's notice who's going to Bash Charismatics on here Posted : 1 Jun, 2023 04:24 PM I am Pentecostal Assemblies of God and i don't agree with the Charismatic movement for these reasons: 1. No accountability for their doctrine which means that can twist the scriptures any way they want out of context. 2. The abuse of the gifts of the Gifts of the Spirit is prevalent in the non-denominational Charismatic churches. 3. It opens the door for all sorts of compromise and false doctrine in the church like the Word of Faith/Rhema movement, the wealth health prosperity gospel and joel osteen and joseph prince which are false teachers and not to mention the denying of the sovereignty of God, the importance of the cross and speaking in tongues and the gifts of the spirit being misused. Scripture teaches in 1 Cor 12-14, Romans 12 and Ephesians 4:1-16 teach that the gifts of the spirit, a message in tongues and your prayer language need to be exercised in an orderly yet spontanateous fashion. There is a difference between a message in tongues and interpretation and recieving your prayer language to use in your private devotional time with Jesus and it's not God's will to divinely heal everyone, sometimes He does and doesn't, it has to be according to God's will and sometimes he uses doctors and medications to do this, this requires discernment. And don't hate Charismatic people per se i just hate their doctrine, Moonlight7 and biblical discernment is required. Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Let's notice who's going to Bash Charismatics on here Posted : 1 Jun, 2023 04:51 PM I understand what you are saying streetevangelist ! Thanks Unfortunately, Many Christians don't know the differences in the operations of the Spiritual gifts. Post Reply
Streetevangelist520^ View Profile History	Let's notice who's going to Bash Charismatics on here Posted : 1 Jun, 2023 04:56 PM To God be the glory, no credit taken, Moonlight7. Post Reply
NarnianGirl View Profile History	Let's notice who's going to Bash Charismatics on here Posted : 2 Jun, 2023 04:29 AM Bless you Streetevangelist for not dissing the gifts of the Spirit for their misuse... :) We don't need to throw away the child with the bath water.. I'm also fed up with 'Charismania', which often had nothing to do with real gifts, just a show and glitter. In my experience, the lines between Pentecostal (denominational or non-denominational) movement and Charismatic Movement have been blurred. Of course, God still does wonders and answers prayers. We are told to seek and ask. When He answers, it causes a deep fear and reverence towards Him. No human should take the credit.. Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Let's notice who's going to Bash Charismatics on here Posted : 2 Jun, 2023 12:57 PM There’s no baby in the charismania bath water Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Let's notice who's going to Bash Charismatics on here Posted : 2 Jun, 2023 01:59 PM Spiritual gifts are in operation in the Body of Christ Today. Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Let's notice who's going to Bash Charismatics on here Posted : 2 Jun, 2023 05:02 PM Who’s denying spiritual gifts are not in operation⁉️⁉️Please post where I said that. All spiritual gifts are in play except for miraculous tongues and miraculous healings. Its kinda like I must explain everything to you and explain again and again. Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Let's notice who's going to Bash Charismatics on here Posted : 2 Jun, 2023 05:05 PM What part of All are in operation don't you understand ! I disagree with you . Get over yourself. Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Let's notice who's going to Bash Charismatics on here Posted : 2 Jun, 2023 05:21 PM One thing you're good at is trying to degrade me . Just move on....... God's not in that ! Post Reply
Streetevangelist520^ View Profile History	Let's notice who's going to Bash Charismatics on here Posted : 2 Jun, 2023 05:28 PM To God be the glory, no credit taken NarnianGirl. I've been in churches on both the cessationism and sensationalism extremes and the LORD has given me much wisdom over time regarding all this, praise the LORD. Post Reply

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