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Dom_64

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Posted : 13 May, 2023 04:16 PM

Have you repented of lying?

Congratulations you have kept the Law of Moses that says, "You shall not bear false witness".



Have you repented of stealing?

Congratulations you have kept the Law of Moses that says,

"You shall not steal".



Have you repented of taking the Lord's name in vain?

Congratulations you have kept the Law of Moses that says,

"You shall not take the Lord’s name in vain".



Have you repented of coveting?

Congratulations you have kept the Law of Moses that says,

"You shall not covet".

Etc...



I want to congratulate you all for so perfectly keeping the Law of Moses to receive your salvation. You saved yourselves. The fact that no flesh will be saved by the good works of the Law does not apply to you. Good job on being such good people. You deserve to be saved now since you have worked so hard at it. Now you will get your wage of eternal life through your repenting of sins. It's free for everybody else but you. Pat yourselves on the back for a job well done!. You are all officially Catholic.

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Dom_64

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Posted : 13 May, 2023 04:30 PM

The Catholic Way of Salvation

James McCarthy

What exactly does the Roman Catholic Church teach is the way of salvation? A popular post-Vatican II catechism provides the following summary of the Church’s teaching.

Question What is necessary to be saved?



Answer You have to be brought into spiritual contact with that saving death of Jesus by faith and Baptism and loyal membership in His Church, by love of God and neighbor proved by obedience to His commandments, by the other Sacraments especially Holy Communion, by prayer and good works and by final perseverance, that is, preserving God’s friendship and grace until death.*



Note the lack of emphasis on Jesus in this answer. The only mention of Him is with reference to being "brought into spiritual contact with that saving death of Jesus." What the catechism means by this is that the person must have sanctifying grace in his soul. This, says the Church, unites a person to Jesus and gives him a participation in the divine life of God. According to the catechism, to obtain sanctifying grace and preserve it in one’s soul, a Catholic must accomplish a list of ten requirements:



believing

being baptized

being a loyal member of the Church

loving God

loving his neighbor

KEEPING THE TEN COMMANDEMENTS

receiving the sacraments, especially Holy Communion

praying

doing good works

dying in a state of grace

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 13 May, 2023 05:45 PM

@Dom













What is the danger/consequence of unconfessed sin?





First John 1:9 says, “If we confess our sin, he is faithful and just to forgive our sin and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” This verse is written to Christians and hinges on the word if. God offers total pardon for every sin His children commit IF we confess it to Him. The word confess implies agreeing with God about how bad our sin is. Repentance, or turning away from it, is part of this confession. For those who have not been pardoned by the blood of Jesus, every sin is unconfessed and unforgiven. Eternal punishment awaits those who refuse to repent of their sin and accept Jesus’ sacrifice for it (2 Thessalonians 1:8–9; John 3:15–18). But what about a Christian with unconfessed sin?



According to Scripture, all our sin was paid for when we accepted Jesus’ sacrifice on our behalf. Second Corinthians 5:21 says, “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.” When we make that divine exchange at the cross, God chooses to see us as righteous. It is not our righteousness but the righteousness of Christ that God sees (Titus 3:5). He switches accounts with us: our tarnished rap sheet for His perfect record. We have the full approval and acceptance of God from then on.



But what happens when we sin after receiving that perfect record? Imagine standing by a south window on a cold winter day. The air is frigid, but the sun is shining through the window. It begins to warm you, and you bask in its glow. Then you pull the drape closed. Instantly, the warmth stops. Is it because the sun has stopped shining? No, it is because something has come between you and the sun. The moment you open the drape, the sun can warm you again. But it is up to you. The barrier is inside the house, not outside.



Unconfessed sin works like that drape. God delights in His children (Psalm 37:23; Romans 8:38–39). He desires to bless us, fellowship with us, and shower His approval upon us (Psalm 84:11; 115:13; 1 Samuel 2:30). He wants us to bask in the warmth of His smile. But when we choose sin, we build a barrier between ourselves and our holy Father. We pull the drape on fellowship with Him and begin to feel the chill of spiritual loneliness. Many times, we angrily accuse God of leaving us when, in truth, we have left Him. When we stubbornly refuse to repent, we will be disciplined by our loving Father (Hebrews 12:7–11). The Lord’s discipline can be severe, even leading to death when a heart has hardened to the point of no return (1 Corinthians 11:30; 1 John 5:16). God longs for restored fellowship even more than we do (Isaiah 65:2; 66:13; Matthew 23:37; Joel 2:12–13). He pursues us, disciplines us, and loves us even in our sin (Romans 5:8). But He leaves our free will intact. We must pull back the drape by confessing and repenting.



If, as children of God, we choose to remain in our sin, then we choose the consequences that go with that choice. Broken fellowship and lack of growth result. However, those who persist in sin need to reexamine their true relationship with God (2 Corinthians 13:5). Scripture is clear that those who know God do not continue a lifestyle of unrepentant sin (1 John 2:3–6; 3:7–10). A desire for holiness is a hallmark of those who know God. To know God is to love Him (Matthew 22:37–38). To love Him is to desire to please Him (John 14:15). Unconfessed sin gets in the way of pleasing Him, so a true child of God wants to confess it, change it, and restore fellowship with God.

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 13 May, 2023 05:45 PM

@Dom













What is the danger/consequence of unconfessed sin?





First John 1:9 says, “If we confess our sin, he is faithful and just to forgive our sin and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” This verse is written to Christians and hinges on the word if. God offers total pardon for every sin His children commit IF we confess it to Him. The word confess implies agreeing with God about how bad our sin is. Repentance, or turning away from it, is part of this confession. For those who have not been pardoned by the blood of Jesus, every sin is unconfessed and unforgiven. Eternal punishment awaits those who refuse to repent of their sin and accept Jesus’ sacrifice for it (2 Thessalonians 1:8–9; John 3:15–18). But what about a Christian with unconfessed sin?



According to Scripture, all our sin was paid for when we accepted Jesus’ sacrifice on our behalf. Second Corinthians 5:21 says, “He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.” When we make that divine exchange at the cross, God chooses to see us as righteous. It is not our righteousness but the righteousness of Christ that God sees (Titus 3:5). He switches accounts with us: our tarnished rap sheet for His perfect record. We have the full approval and acceptance of God from then on.



But what happens when we sin after receiving that perfect record? Imagine standing by a south window on a cold winter day. The air is frigid, but the sun is shining through the window. It begins to warm you, and you bask in its glow. Then you pull the drape closed. Instantly, the warmth stops. Is it because the sun has stopped shining? No, it is because something has come between you and the sun. The moment you open the drape, the sun can warm you again. But it is up to you. The barrier is inside the house, not outside.



Unconfessed sin works like that drape. God delights in His children (Psalm 37:23; Romans 8:38–39). He desires to bless us, fellowship with us, and shower His approval upon us (Psalm 84:11; 115:13; 1 Samuel 2:30). He wants us to bask in the warmth of His smile. But when we choose sin, we build a barrier between ourselves and our holy Father. We pull the drape on fellowship with Him and begin to feel the chill of spiritual loneliness. Many times, we angrily accuse God of leaving us when, in truth, we have left Him. When we stubbornly refuse to repent, we will be disciplined by our loving Father (Hebrews 12:7–11). The Lord’s discipline can be severe, even leading to death when a heart has hardened to the point of no return (1 Corinthians 11:30; 1 John 5:16). God longs for restored fellowship even more than we do (Isaiah 65:2; 66:13; Matthew 23:37; Joel 2:12–13). He pursues us, disciplines us, and loves us even in our sin (Romans 5:8). But He leaves our free will intact. We must pull back the drape by confessing and repenting.



If, as children of God, we choose to remain in our sin, then we choose the consequences that go with that choice. Broken fellowship and lack of growth result. However, those who persist in sin need to reexamine their true relationship with God (2 Corinthians 13:5). Scripture is clear that those who know God do not continue a lifestyle of unrepentant sin (1 John 2:3–6; 3:7–10). A desire for holiness is a hallmark of those who know God. To know God is to love Him (Matthew 22:37–38). To love Him is to desire to please Him (John 14:15). Unconfessed sin gets in the way of pleasing Him, so a true child of God wants to confess it, change it, and restore fellowship with God.

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Posted : 13 May, 2023 06:33 PM

Dom, confession and repentance is biblical. God's grace cannot be used as license for deliberate willful sin. There is a difference between sinning everyday because we are all sinners and living in a habitual lifestyle of deliberate willful sin. You are treading on dangerous ground. Read Romans 6 in context and you will find this out. Galatians 6:7-10 illustrates this too, i'm speaking the truth of God's word in love to you. Do i hate your sin and beliefs, yes. But do i hate you as a person, no. Jesus used the same approach with the sinners. But He was harder on the religious crowd because of their self-righteousness and bigotry(see Matthew 23). Jesus loves you and doesn't want you going to hell without Him and wants you to give you power to overcome all your sin and help you be productive in the body of Christ. Read the Bible for yourself and kneel before the cross of Christ and confess and repent of your sin. Jesus loves you and i love you as a brother in the LORD. The choice is yours.

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Posted : 13 May, 2023 09:40 PM

🤔🕵️‍♂️ Dom you are obviously confused between positional forgiveness and relational forgiveness



“Positional” forgiveness, or judicial forgiveness, is that which is obtained by every believer in Christ in the process of justification. In our position as members of the body of Christ, we have been forgiven of every sin we have ever committed or ever will commit. The price paid by Christ on the cross has satisfied God’s wrath against sin, and no further sacrifice or payment is necessary. When Jesus said, “It is finished,” TETALSTAI He meant it. Our positional forgiveness was obtained then and there



Confession of sin will help to keep us from the discipline of the Lord. If we fail to confess sin, the discipline of the Lord is sure to come until we do confess it. As stated previously, our sins are forgiven at salvation (positional forgiveness), but our daily fellowship with God needs to stay in good standing (relational forgiveness). Proper fellowship with God during the process of sanctification cannot happen with unconfessed sin in our lives. Therefore, we need to confess our sins to God as soon as we are aware that we have sinned in order to maintain close fellowship with God



💡💡 So again to recap positional forgiveness justification relational forgiveness sanctification it's very simple ❗❗😉😉

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Posted : 14 May, 2023 06:48 AM

Amen to that homeless christian.

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Dom_64

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Posted : 14 May, 2023 08:36 AM

According to Streetevangelist I'm living "in a habitual lifestyle of deliberate willful sin'.



I have no clue what he's talking about.

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Posted : 14 May, 2023 10:51 AM

Dom that is what scripture says. Obviously you are allowing the devil to decieve and blind you and i feel bad for you. Read scripture for yourself, don't take my word for it.

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Posted : 14 May, 2023 12:12 PM

Wow Street evangelist, you turned the hyper grace of God into licentiousness. I have no desire to live in sin. Is that what you want to do?

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Posted : 15 May, 2023 06:56 AM

DOM, hyper grace is not biblical grace. No where does biblical grace reject the repentance teachings of Jesus.

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