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SECRET RAPTURE "FACT OR FALLACY?"
Posted : 14 Sep, 2022 09:33 PM

DOES THE BIBLE TEACH THERE IS A SECRET RAPTURE?



This is a brief point by point account of the oder of according to Scripture; There is Christ's second coming, the resurrection, the catching up of the saints to meet Jesus in the air which all take place at the same time and at the end of the world. This is why Jesus said in Matthew 28:20 "...and lo I am with you always, even unto the end of the world." Why would Jesus promise to be with the Church until the end of the world if He intended to come seven years before the end to take them out of the world? The promise would than have no meaning.



This false doctrine on the secret rapture is contradictory of the words of Jesus in Matthew 13 when He said the wheat and the tears would grow together until the "end of the world" and than would be separated. According to this dual coming rapture theory, both groups would not grow together until the end of the world. The righteous would be separated from the wicked seven years before the end. And what about the promise of the resurrection? Christ said, concerning the righteous, John 6:40 "...And I will raise him up at the LAST DAY." No one denies that this means the last day of the world. Paul declares the saints are caught up to meet the Lord at the "same time" the dead in Christ are raised. He says, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17.

Did you note that called this resurrection the "last day?" But how could it be the "last day" if this gathering of the saints takes place seven years before the end of the world? And how could the "last trump" (see 1 Corinthians 15:52 below) sound if it really wasn't the very last moment of time? Imagine the graves opening and the righteous rising and no one knowing that it had occurred? Consider also the added testimony from God's Word;



Matthew 24:27; Matthew 24:30; Matthew 24:31; 1 Corinthians 15:52; Revelation 1:7 Revelation 6:16-17



There is no understood scripture that says the second coming of Christ to gather His saints will be a secret rapture. All these verses show it will be a very loud and very visible event that every eye shall see. There is nothing secret about any aspect of His coming. Those believing this false doctrine sometimes quote Matthew 24:40-41 out of context. The entire passage reads;



Matthew 24:37-41



Jesus is demonstrating the parallels between the days of Noah and the second coming of Christ. The eight that entered Noah's Ark were saved and those that scoffed perished as the flood "took them all away". Many have been taught that the once taken are the ones saved but note it is actually the ones taken that are destroyed. There was no second chance. Jesus said and "so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." The last verse of this chapter tells us what will happen to those who are taken to destruction.



Matthew 24:51



Those believing in the secret rapture also quote Jesus in saying He will come as a thief in the night, meaning it will be secret. Jesus said in:



Matthew 24:43-44



Jesus is not talking about in coming secretly but unexpectedly when we least expect Him and so the wicked will be taken by surprise. This is why Jesus tell us to be ready as we know not the hour of His return. Those who are not right with Christ and living wickedly when Jesus returns will be taken to destruction as in the days of Noah. See Matthew 24:37-41 above. See also 2 Thessalonians 2:8



1 Thessalonians 5:2



Same message as before be ready for Christ's unexpected return. And what happens after His return?



1 Thessalonians 5:3



How secret is sudden destruction? Those that are left after Jesus' return encounter "sudden destruction". Again, just like in the days of Noah.

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SECRET RAPTURE "FACT OR FALLACY?"
Posted : 15 Sep, 2022 06:24 AM

Your rash opinion reads more like amateur introspection than it does informed reason.

For example, you’ve produced no appeal to the facts of history or to the original meaning. All you have is just someone’s uninformed opinion—most likely someone who’s been sheltered and “protected” from the facts by a false theology.

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Pipiripi

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Posted : 15 Sep, 2022 08:29 AM

Use only a Bible, otherwise you cannot understand scriptures!! This is just the beginning of the DESTRUCTION of the false trinity god (Satan, pope, and their church leaders)



I don't forget! I don't forgive! Expect Me!!

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Posted : 15 Sep, 2022 08:34 AM

I thought you said earlier that you already destroyed it all not you’re saying “this is just the beginning”‼️‼️‼️



I can hardly wait for the sequel ‼️‼️‼️‼️😀😂😁😆🤣😇

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