Author	Thread: BIBLE PROOF THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE (3)
Pipiripi View Profile History	BIBLE PROOF THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE (3) Posted : 5 Sep, 2022 05:38 PM PAROUSIA AND APOKALUPSIS Those who believe in the rapture say that the Greek word "parousia" refers to the secret coming of Jesus with the rupturing of the church and that the Greek word "apokalupsis" refers to the visible glorious coming of Jesus in power seven years later. So they believe from these Greek words that Christ will return in two phases, separate be the 7 years tribulation. Wel, I already have proven from the Bible that there is NO SEPARATION between the church and the wicked until the END OF THE WORLD. But let's take a look at "parousia" and "apokalupsis", and what I will show you is that both are used to describe the SAME second coming, not two comings. Paul uses the word ''parousia'' in 1 Thessalonians 4, which we have discussed above, when speaking of the coming of Christ and our gathering together unto Him. But Paul then shows that this "parousia" will destroy the man of sin; the Antichrist. 2 Thessalonians 2:8 So we have a problem. Paul is saying that it is DURING the, "parousia" of Christ that the man of sin will be destroyed. And yet those who hold to the rapture teaching say that the man of sin will reign AFTER the "parousia". And will not be destroyed until the physical "apokalupsis" coming of Christ. "Apokalupsis" [revelation] is also used in a way that indicates it is NOT a separate coming from the time believers are gathered up. 1 Peter 1:13 Now why would Christians be exhorted to continue hoping to the end of the world for the grace brought through the revelation of Jesus Christ if their real hope was a rapture 7 years before the revelation? Do you see the problem with this teaching? I hope so. These following verses which give Matthew and Luke's account of the SAME EVENT prove that the words "parousia" and "apokalupsis" do refer to the SAME ONE COMING OF CHRIST. Matthew 24:37; Luke 17:26,30 This is how we are to find out the TRUTH. We need to compare scripture with scripture. So why are the two Greek words used? It's quite simple. Parousia means "presence", a VISIBLE and Apokalupsis means "to reveal", a REVEALING OF THE TRUTH. So to turn these two words into two separate comings make no sense whatsoever. They both describe the ONE event, the physical, visible, loud, fiery second coming of Christ, in which the truth will be REVEALED!! Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	BIBLE PROOF THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE (3) Posted : 5 Sep, 2022 06:28 PM Being a double minded man, unstable in all his ways. That's @,Pipi Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	BIBLE PROOF THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE (3) Posted : 5 Sep, 2022 07:00 PM You proved nothing but that you don't know what Bible Truth is. Following false doctrine! Post Reply
Pipiripi View Profile History	BIBLE PROOF THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE (3) Posted : 5 Sep, 2022 07:14 PM I don't forget! I don't forgive! Expect Me! The DESTROYER of the false Trinity god doctrine! Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	BIBLE PROOF THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE (3) Posted : 6 Sep, 2022 06:29 AM Pipi, you are just exposing your ignorance as always‼️ First of all, let’s help you understand the meaning of the word “proof” >>>Proof means—-evidence SUFFICIENT to establish a thing as true‼️‼️‼️ PIPI, where’s the SUFFICIENT evidence⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️ Pipi, All you do is offer Ellen’s and your opinions INSTEAD of proof ‼️‼️‼️‼️ I guess that’s all you got‼️‼️‼️‼️ Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	BIBLE PROOF THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE (3) Posted : 6 Sep, 2022 06:45 AM And then you appeal to the Greek in order to veneer your false argument with a little bit of authenticity. AND THEN YOU SAY THIS: “So why are the two Greek words used? It's quite simple. Parousia means "presence", a VISIBLE and Apokalupsis means "to reveal", “ END QUOTE Totally meaningless‼️‼️ How does it move your argument forward⁉️⁉️ Obviously it doesn’t You can quote all the Greek words you want but unless you you’re able to produce a convincing argument that’s relevant to the point you’re trying to make, it’s all in vain Post Reply
Pipiripi View Profile History	BIBLE PROOF THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE (3) Posted : 6 Sep, 2022 07:39 AM Little boy! Thanks to PROOF me that you are studying my Biblical truth. Now we can talk. Let me write what you want to see. Matthew 24:37 it says ..."But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming [parousia] of the Son of man be." ....And the same account in Luke 17:26,30 says ... "As it was in the days of Noah ... Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed [apokalupsis]". This is how we are to find out the TRUTH. We need to compare scripture with scripture. Now littleboy, you can used my manual of life to preached the completely Bible truth. For moon7, I need to find an exorcist from the Roman Catholic Church, to free her from the hypnosis that Satan has put her into it!! Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	BIBLE PROOF THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE (3) Posted : 6 Sep, 2022 11:46 AM Pipi, You haven’t been teaching anything‼️‼️All you do is give directions that lead to Ellen White, not God Post Reply
Pipiripi View Profile History	BIBLE PROOF THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE (3) Posted : 6 Sep, 2022 07:33 PM Satan let you think that way. Do you want me the keep write more about her? The truth you can find between 1750- 1910. Any other person that are going to write about Ellen White above this date, must give proof where they have find that statement. If they don't put it, then they are an agent of Satan, just like you two!! Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	BIBLE PROOF THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE (3) Posted : 7 Sep, 2022 02:52 AM Pipi, look up THE GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT‼️‼️ It’s about your churches false prophets and their false prophecies ‼️‼️‼️ Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	BIBLE PROOF THE RAPTURE THEORY IS FALSE (3) Posted : 7 Sep, 2022 02:55 AM Pipi, look up THE GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT‼️‼️ It’s about your churches false prophets and their false prophecies ‼️‼️‼️ Post Reply