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Moonlight7 View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 05:56 AM The answer to the question “are God and Jesus the same person?” really depends on what is meant by the same person. If this question means to ask “Is Jesus really God?” or “Is Jesus God in the flesh?” then the answer would be “Yes—Jesus is fully divine. He has all the attributes of God” (see Colossians 2:9). However, the question could be interpreted another way, which would require a different answer. Theologically speaking, Jesus and the Father are different Persons of the Trinity. They are one in nature and essence, but they are different in personhood. There is an ancient heresy called modalism (and a more modern variation called Oneness theology), which teaches that God does not exist in three co-equal, co-eternal Persons, but only one. According to modalism, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not three individual Persons but simply three modes of revelation: sometimes God reveals Himself as the Father, other times as the Son, and still other times as the Holy Spirit. If the question is asked, “are Jesus and God the Father the same person?” the modalist would answer “yes,” but biblical Trinitarians would answer “no.” The doctrine of the Trinity is the best explanation for all of the biblical evidence. There is only one God, but He exists eternally as three individual Persons and has revealed Himself as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. This is different from the teaching of three individual gods because the three Persons of the Trinity are co-equal, co-eternal, interdependent, and always in complete agreement. There is one God who exists as three individual Persons. Thus, the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God; however, the Father is not the same person as the Son, nor is the Son the same person as the Holy Spirit. This is sometimes complicated by the fact that God the Father is often simply called “God” in the New Testament. The first three verses of the Gospel of John give us an idea of how this works out: John 1:1. In the beginning was the Word . . . (We know from verse 14 that the Word is Jesus. In the beginning, He was already there.) . . . and the Word was with God . . . (At least two Persons are in view here: one called “God” and one called “the Word.”) . . . and the Word was God (The Word is distinct from God, yet He is also called “God.” The Word is divine in His essential nature.) John 1:2. He was with God in the beginning (After the essential identification of the Word as God, once again the distinction is emphasized—He was with God when it all began.) John 1:3. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made (Here, we see that the Word is actually the Creator. He made everything. In the Old Testament, we are told that God created everything—Genesis 1:1.) It is this kind of biblical information that led to the formulation of the doctrine of the Trinity. When “God” is spoken of in the Old Testament, most people probably think of God the Father, but it would be more accurate to think of “God the Trinity.” In the New Testament, we see how each Person of the Trinity assumed different roles in the redemption of lost humanity, but the different Persons are always in complete agreement. Post Reply
Alligator View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 07:16 PM When I was about 5, i asked my Sunday School teacher about God. Her explanation was God is 3 persons.... like your mother is a Mother, a Wife, and a Daughter. But she is also just one person. sometimes I remember that from so many years ago. Does anyone argue against this explanation to a 5 year old??? Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 07:27 PM VERY GOOD to see you back‼️‼️‼️‼️ Post Reply
Alligator View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 07:38 PM hello! I remember you David and you were ALWAYS kind. a mutual acquaintance reminded me of my user name so i am back again !! Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 07:44 PM 😊🙏 Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 07:56 PM I wanted to respectfully answer your question about the Trinity. Your teacher was right to say “God is 3 persons”. So far so good. but she when she said, “...your mother is a Mother, a Wife and a Daughter”, she defined only one person serving in 3 different roles but still the same single person. However, the Trinity consists rather of 3 distinct persons but one single Unity or Godhead. I’ll post a new thread that will go into greater detail and will probably explain the reality a lot more clearer and better than l have But that is a real good question .... Post Reply
Pipiripi View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 08:26 PM Sure sis! Your mother was been teach by a Catholic priest, or a trinitarian church priest, that has hold to this false trinity doctrine. But when you open your Bible you cannot find any praying in three gods. The problem is that these people don't know what the Holy Spirit is. Even if they are born English speaking person, they cannot understand the difference between, The Holy Spirit OF God, and god holy spirit!! They don't know what "OF" means!! Imagine!! English speaking person!! So 😔 sad!! Post Reply
Pipiripi View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 08:30 PM Show me in the New Testament, where that I can read greetings in three person or closing of the gospel thanks giving in three persons. Specially in the name of god holy spirit!! Chapters and verses!! Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 08:36 PM Hey Pipi, you just refuted the TeddyBug doctrine on the Trinity‼️‼️‼️ WHOSA WOWSA‼️‼️‼️🤣😂😇 You better get outa that thing until you learn to drive it‼️‼️‼️‼️😀😆😇 Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 09:44 PM Alligator, when you say - 'I remember you David and you were ALWAYS kind' you will find many women on this forum that disagree with you, namely recently Mitzyme and long time Jayzeee they know him WELL, NOT to be a kind person! Quote of Mitzyme - 'No wonder people here dont get engaged in Bible conversation because of people like this littledavid!!!' Yeah Mitzyme was asking a simple question of where the word planet is found in the Bible and littledavid says it in Gen. 1:16 (LOL!) but reading it, it says NOTHING of 'orbiting planets' in the verse! So then he attempts to link her with me by belittling her because she agrees with me, saying we would make a great team because she simply ask did this planet thing come from nasa of which of course it did not originate with nasa but that they also adopted it from the PAGAN copernican system model teaching outside Scripture! So just because I agree with her we are a team and she was belittled by him, reading into her things she never said! He does this all the time and even Morgan is offended by littledavids reading into his posts, belittlement comments and judgments! Alligator, when you say your SUN-day school teacher said about 'God'. Her explanation was 'God' is 3 persons.... like your mother is a Mother, a Wife, and a Daughter. But she is also just one person' Well Father YHWH does have a Son that He made into flesh (found in John chapter 1!) that was originally His very own WORD but what of His Holy Spirit that is >>>OF<<< Him! Is a Spirit a person and you can find that in Scripture??? So two you can see come resurrection day but the other you cannot??? The Bible says the Father returns to earth to get His sinless commandment keeping saints and His Son will be on His right hand side, so is the Holy Spirit on His left hand side??? Why is the Holy Spirit not coming back to earth with the Father and Son? Stayed behind to catch up on laundry, shampoo the carpets in Paradise/Heaven or what??? Here is something to think about in Scripture when something IS OF OF OF someone! Genesis 1:2 - 'And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And >>>the Spirit of YHWH<<< (not another CREATOR!) moved upon the face of the waters.' Light bulb coming on yet? Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 09:51 PM Pipiripi, littledavid will have no answer for you unless its copy and paste to his agenda in false teaching, as he has a lot of faith in men instead of Scripture where you put your FAITH! THAT is CERTAINLY no answer either from him as I have exposed those CULT articles many times but all he does is distract to another subject! He is simply LAZY to do any kind of study on his own! SAD he joins other men heading for the one day made lake of fire!! Post Reply

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