There is a teaching today that is rife within the Christian world, called the rapture. What is the rapture theory? It is believed by those who hold to this theory (and there are MANY who do), that the "church" will be rapture away to Heaven and then the earth will continue for a period of seven years (called the tribulation) in which the habitants of the earth will be plunged into a time of great trouble and strife (more so than now). So according to this teaching is a separation to take place between the saved and the lost BEFORE the end of the world. In this teaching we are also told that Christ will return in two "phases". The first will be a "quite" affair with the saints being rapture away. And then the second phase after the seven year tribulation will be the "glorious, triumphant" return, which according to this teaching, will usher in the 1000 year millennial reign on EARTH (which is also a false teaching).
Let me quickly show you an example of the weakness of the rapture doctrine - I came across a recent article stating '10 Irrefutable proofs" for the rapture. Here are the first two 'irrefutable proofs' they quoted:
Number 1. "THE RAPTURE IS THE 'BLESSED HOPE' WHILE THE SECOND COMING IS A DAY TO BE GREATLY FEARED" ... They separate the rapture and second coming saying that the rapture is the 'blessd hope' quoting Titus 2:13, and the second coming is the 'FEARED day of the Lord', quoting Amos 5:18. They believe these must be different events, because one is to hoped for, and the other is to be feared. BUT THEY FAIL TO REALIZE THE SIMPLE TRUTH THAT THE SECOND COMING IS THE 'BLESSED HOPE' FOR THE SAVED IN JESUS, AND TO BE 'GREATLY FEARED' BY THOSE WHO REJECT THE LORD. SIMPLE, LOGICAL TRUTH.
Number 2. "IN THE RAPTURE, JESUS COMES FOR HIS CHURCH, AT HIS SECOND COMING HE BRINGS THE CHURCH WITH HIM" ... They say that Jesus takes His church away in the rapture, quoting 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. And then Jesus comes back with the church at the second coming quoting Revelation 19:14, which says 'the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses." BUT WHAT THEY FAIL TO REALIZE IS THAT THE 'ARMIES' WHOM JESUS RETURNS WITH ARE HIS ANGELS, AS MATTHEW 25:31 CONFIRMS, NOT THE CHURCH.
But what about 1 Thessalonians 4:14, where it says that those who sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him? This surely is talking about the church coming back from heaven after the rapture with Jesus at His physical return?" No, it's Not. Rapture adherents love this verse, but they completely miss the context of what is being say here. Look at both verse 13 and 14. Paul is clearly taking about those who are asleep in Christ, ie, those who are in their graves waiting for His return. And what does Paul say to give encouragement concerning those who has died? He says that just as God raised Jesus from the dead, so He will bring with Jesus those who sleep in Him. In other words, those who have died, God will raised them from the dead, just like He rose Jesus from dead.
The rest of the so called 'irrefutable proofs' are of the same mold. They are not proofs at all, but just twisting of scripture to suit their wrong belief. It's interesting that they also believe the 'antichrist' will not be revealed until AFTER the rapture. This is a deception of the Roman Catholic Church. The Bible and historic Protestantism already revealed the antichrist - The Papal Church of Rome!
Note: If the rapture theory is a true Biblical teaching. Why was it not well known and popularized until the early 20th century?
So littledavid are you willing to go out on limb with mooncakes chainsaw in her hand and claim the secret rapture theory is just that a theory and false teaching then!? Let alone the DANGER of telling Christians not to be concerned with the 'mark of the beast' in the end times because that only supposedly takes place during the CULT teachings dreamed up 7 year tribulation!?
I have noticed the DEATHLY silence (crickets chirping!) on your part the whole time CULTISTrsvp was here pushing the CULTISH secret rapture agenda thingy on everyone, somehow claiming its Biblical!!??? LOL! So where do you stand on this CULT doctrine? Have you added it to the rest of your false teachings? Might as well, right?
Bottom line is it easier to ignore the topic so your MOM mooncakes will not discipline you and you will have to go to bed with no milk and cookies! Right?
Lets quote Quiznos since he might be busy! Its only fitting since he went to a lot of work to post in another thread that is now on the second page because mooncakes is HOGGING UP the forum with thread after thread because her insecurities! BUT Quiznos posts should be brought back in truth here!
QUOTE of Quiznos- 'Moon, there is no (ZERO!) such doctrine in the Scriptures called 'PRETRIBULATION' rapture.'
Believers will be going thru the TRIBULATION (its a Biblical fact if I may add!), before GOD Almighty unleashes His wrath upon the world and the believers will be protected, as they are saved from (His) 'WRATH' but not the TRIBULATION.
Moon, read (PLEASE!) and study the Scriptures for yourself, quit going on the site 'got questions'(that have MANY CULT answers!) or other such sites.'
Quiznos goes on to correctly state -
QUOTE - 'Moon, why do you and many self diluted people believe teachings that are not in the Scriptures. There is no 7 year tribulation spoken of in the Scriptures. J N Darby made up that THEORY, and many people believe they have a GET OUT OF TRIBULATION (and earth!) FREE card given to the Messiah (in heaven now!). You and many others place your >>>faith<<< in ONE (set of) verse(s) of Scripture not the entire book(s).' of the Bible in its CONTEXT!
Do you remember the parables Yeshua spoke concerning the end times, or do we just ignore what He said in order to believe our own UNBELIEF in what men such as J N Darby, and others have written about the end times.'
EXCELLENT POST Quiznos!
Then Quiznos goes on to correctly state -
'There is no PRETRIBULATION rapture in the Scriptures, read the context that you have taken 2 (locations of) verses of Scripture from to twist. (1 Thessalonians 4:13–18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50–54). Moon, you do know how to read according to the context do you not, right I thought so. That is why you copy and post so much.
Now moon, you and the 'christians' seem to have your faith in an event, not the person.'
For those readers that have been following along with the SDA threads and littledavid's obsession with his DEAD girlfriend EGW and what's really hilarious is he cannot EVEN SPELL HER NAME RIGHT!!! LOL! imagine according to littledavid beliefs when her 'soul' and or 'spirit' that supposedly cannot die comes to haunt littledavid in his bed telling him to spell her name right!!!
Sorry to write Ellen White’s your girlfriends name as Helen because false teachers always remind me of hell because they send people there‼️‼️‼️‼️ Get it now‼️‼️‼️‼️🥸🧐😜🤓😇😇