Various theories on the location of hell have been put forward
. A traditional view is that hell is in the center of the earth. Others propose that hell is located in outer space in a black hole. In the Old Testament, the word translated “hell” is Sheol; in the New Testament, it’s Hades (meaning “unseen”) and Gehenna (“the Valley of Hinnom”). Sheol is also translated as “pit” and “grave.” Both Sheol and Hades refer to a temporary abode of the dead before judgment (Psalm 9:17; Revelation 1:18). Gehenna refers to an eternal state of punishment for the wicked dead (Mark 9:43).
The idea that hell is below us, perhaps in the center of the earth, comes from passages such as Luke 10:15: “And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell” (KJV). Also, in 1 Samuel 28:13-15, the medium of Endor sees the spirit of Samuel “coming up out of the ground.” We should note, however, that neither of these passages is concerned with the geographic location of hell. Capernaum’s being thrust “down” is probably a reference to their being condemned rather than a physical direction. And the medium’s vision of Samuel was just that: a vision.
In the King James Version, Ephesians 4:9 says that before Jesus ascended into heaven, “he also descended . . . into the lower parts of the earth.” Some Christians take “the lower parts of the earth” as a reference to hell, where they say Jesus spent the time between His death and resurrection. However, the New International Version gives a better translation: “he also descended to the lower, earthly regions.” This verse simply says that Jesus came to earth. It’s a reference to His incarnation, not to His location after death.
The notion that hell is somewhere in outer space, possibly in a black hole, is based on the knowledge that black holes are places of great heat and pressure from which nothing, not even light, can escape. Surprisingly, this concept of hell is presented in the 1979 Walt Disney film The Black Hole. Near the movie’s end, all the characters pass through a black hole. On the other side, the villain finds himself in a fiery place of torment, while the other characters enjoy disembodied bliss. It’s interesting that a Disney movie would include a depiction of hell, but it’s best not to base our theology on movies!
Another speculation is that the earth itself will be the “lake of fire” spoken of in Revelation 20:10-15. When the earth is destroyed by fire (2 Peter 3:10; Revelation 21:1), the theory goes, God will use that burning sphere as the everlasting place of torment for the ungodly. Again, this is mere speculation.
To sum up, Scripture does not tell us the geological (or cosmological) location of hell. Hell is a literal place of real torment, but we do not know where it is. Hell may have a physical location in this universe, or it may be in an entirely different “dimension.” Whatever the case, the location of hell is far less important than the need to avoid going there.
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
Luke 16 The Rich Man and Lazarus proves there is a real hell that ungodly spirits go to immediately.
Like 16:19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day.(A) 20 At his gate was laid a beggar(B) named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table.(C) Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham,(D) have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’(E)
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things,(F) but now he is comforted here and you are in agony.(G) 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them,(H) so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses(I) and the Prophets;(J) let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’(K) he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
Again!! Even that you are an English speaking person, you cannot understand the difference between parables and real!!
Just plucking verses here and there and making a false doctrine of it. Even if you read in the Bible, without parable, you cannot see it!! You are under a completely hypnosis of Satan himself!!
Tell Satan to free your brains 🧠 so that you can understand this chapter and verses!!
Matthew 12:43-45! Another prophecy completed in your life little boy!!
You don’t know the difference between a parable and a real life event.
Lazreth is a real person (now in heaven), so is Abraham (also in Heaven) and so is the rich man, (now in hell still suffering), who, at one time, lived on the earth, at the same time as Lazreth!
Please, go to Ellen and ask for your head‼️‼️ Tell her to stop filling it with nonsense. Once you get your head back, start running away as fast as you can‼️‼️‼️
The title of this thread and tipical copy and paste of mooncakes, since she cannot do a Bible study on her own, yet the title is TRUE that hell the grave is real! littledavid is clueless that the words 'hell' and 'grave' and their meaning interchange as I have told him many times and proven with Scripture and many translations!
The first description in the copy and paste says all we need to know that the author is also clueless and says - QUOTE - 'Various theories on the location of hell have been put forward' and ends with QUOTE - 'To sum up, >>>Scripture does not tell us the geological (or cosmological) location of hell.<<< (YES IT DOES!!!) 'Hell is a literal place......' (CORRECT!) 'but we do not know where it is.' (WE SURE DO ITS THE GRAVEYARD!!!) 'Hell >>>may<<< have a physical location in this universe, or it >>>may<<< be in an entirely different “dimension.”
'Whatever the case (author has not a clue!), the location of hell is far less important than the need to avoid going there.' (EVERYBODY GOES TO THE GRAVE/HELL WHEN THEY DIE the first death of old age, disease or accident!
GEESH its so simple when you study the CONTEXT of Scripture using many translations, that 'hell' and 'grave' interchange in meaning! Example below in OT and 'hell' and 'sheol' mean the same thing, just as 'hades' and 'hell' mean the same thing in the NT - Luke 16:22!
Jonah 2:2 (KJV) - 'And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto Master YHWH, and he heard me; >>>out of the belly of hell<<< cried I, and thou heardest my voice.'
Jonah 2:2 (AMP) - 'and said, “I called out of my trouble and distress to Master YHWH, And He answered me; >>>Out of the belly of Sheol<<< I cried for help, And You heard my voice.'
Jonah 2:2 (CEV) - 'When I was in trouble, Master YHWH, I prayed to you, and you listened to me. >>>From deep in the world of the dead,<<< I begged for your help, and you answered my prayer.
Jonah 2:2 (EHV) - 'He said the following: In my distress I called to Master YHWH, and he answered me. >>>From the belly of the grave<<< I cried out, and you heard my voice.
Jonah 2:2 (NOG) - 'Jonah prayed: “I called to YaHuWaH in my distress, and he answered me. >>>From the depths of my watery grave<<< I cried for help, and you heard my cry.
littledavid is sooooo indoctrinated by his CULT 'church' that he strangely attends still??? As you can see above, the facts are the facts of words interchanging in meaning! Right?
Now lets expose littledavid false doctrine even further by his own translation that he has ZERO common sense to understanding, let alone CONTEXT of Scripture to other verses in the Bible on the subject of 'hell' which we know now is also the 'grave'!
The parable of Luke 16:19-31!!! But since littledavid has posted MOST of the verses, lets zero in on the real KILL SHOT verses to his reasoning skills of claiming this parable is all literal???
Luke 16:22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. >>>The rich man also died and was buried.<<< 23 In >>>Hades (the grave!),<<< where he
was in torment (the rich man WILL BE in torment in the 'lake of fire' come resurrection judgment day of the wicked and then eventually ashes! Malachi 4:1,3!), he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
30 'No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent'
So littledavid claims this obvious parable is all >>>literal<<< and DEAD people can go and talk to others!!!!!!!!!?????????????????????????? REALLY? So according to littledavid, he believes DEAD people can come and talk to him, right? Or perhaps littledavid believes DEAD people can come to LIFE on their own - verse 31???
As you can see if this verses was meant to be taken literally, then 'the rich man has died and was buried' obviously, so how can he be burning in a fire! LOL! hell is the grave we just learned above in the book of Jonah! GEESH, its all to simple to understand! But not only that, the parable implies 'Lazarus can dip the tip of his finger in water and cool the tongue' of a DEAD man supposedly in a fire??? LMBO!
GEESH, the whole purpose of the parable is to show the contrast of ETERNAL LIFE to that of ETERNAL DEATH (not the details of 'heaven' and the 'lake of fire'!), those are the ONLY two options everybody must decide upon in this life! Keep the Torah law and LIVE, break it and DIE ETERNALLY!
Finally littledavid writes - 'Lazreth is a real person (now in heaven), so is Abraham (also in Heaven) and so is the rich man, (now in hell still suffering), who, at one time, lived on the earth, at the same time as Lazreth!'
Note he provides ZERO Scripture to show WHERE Lazarus and Abraham is in heaven right now BUT Moses has been resurrected! If its true that Lazarus and Abraham are in heaven right now according to false teacher littledavid, then why is King David not there?
Acts 2:29 - ' Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of >>>the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried (in hell), and his sepulchre (gravesite) is with us unto this day.<<<
ANOTHER SLAM DUNK and EXPOSER of littledavid's false teaching and false doctrine on the state of the dead!!! LMBO!
littledavid, PLEASE, go to your CULT leaders and ask for your head! Tell them to stop filling it with nonsense. Once you get your head back, start running away as fast as you can!
Pipiripi! littledavid is probably hopeless with so many demons in him, should we keep on trying to convert him to the truth???
TeddyBug false teachings (bug droppings) all over the forums.
Any elementary school child can see the foolishness in Flat Teddy’s abusive errors of scripture quotations.
TeddyBug makes a common error. He thinks the word “hell” ALWAYS means only one thing—the grave.
This is as stupid as one thinking the word “board” has only one meaning. But the word “board” can refer to a wooden board or it can refer to people, as in a school board or a board of trustees.
This is a very simple error that only children should be making‼️‼️ NOT adults‼️‼️‼️
The Bible word, translated into English as “hell”, can refer to the grave AND it can refer to the eternal fires and torments of a place called hell‼️‼️‼️ Like the word “board”.
The meaning of a word is defined by whatever context in which it occurs, not in just any-O-way the TeddyBug decides.
SHEEEEESH‼️‼️‼️ Folks you couldn’t make up this kind of TeddyBug stupidity if you tried‼️‼️‼️‼️
