REFUTING FALSE TEACHINGS ON THE SANCTUARY MESSAGES BELIEVED PARTLY BY FLAT-EARTH-TEDDY-BUG AND FULLY BY THE AMAZING HEADLESS PROPHET PIRIPIPI
Posted : 15 Aug, 2022 09:19 AM
Errors of Seventh-day Adventism
by Keith Piper
edited by Rolaant L. McKenzie
Many SDAs are trying to gain acceptance as part of the orthodox Bible based Christian community. However, the following points show them not to hold the "faith once delivered to the saints". Jude 3.
These false doctrines of Seventh-day Adventism warn people to not join up with SDAs, or to leave SDA if they are already involved.
1. THE SABBATH
SDAs insist that we must keep the Sabbath as a day of worship. This is wrong because:
a) The New Testament never commands Christians to worship or meet on the Saturday Sabbath. Instead, Christians are recorded as meeting on the first day of the week, Sunday, in the following Bible passages:
1. 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 -- to put money in the collection.
2. Acts 20:7 -- Paul preached to Christians at Troas whose habit was to meet to break bread on the first day of the week.
3. John 20:19, 26 -- Jesus, after His resurrection met with the disciples on the first day of the week.
4. Romans 14:5-6 -- Paul, when discussing which day to meet, did not say that you must meet on the Saturday Sabbath, (as SDAs say), but he said "Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind."
5. Colossians 2:16-17 -- "Let no man judge you in ... holy days or Sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come."
SDAs judge Christians wrong who keep Sunday as a holyday. Paul says that SDAs are wrong to judge Christians for not keeping Saturday as a holy day.
b) SDAs claim that the Roman Catholic church after Constantine in 320 AD changed the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday. This is completely false, because we have at least ten quotes from major church writers from 90 -- 300 AD who all say that the practice of Christians everywhere was to meet on Sunday, not the Jewish Saturday Sabbath. SDAs have no early quotes to show that early Christians met on Saturday.
2. SOUL SLEEP
SDAs deny that believers on death go to heaven. They say that believers go to soul sleep in the grave until Christ's return. JW's, Christadelphians and other false groups believe this error.
The main verses disproving the soul sleep error are:
1. Philippians 1:23 -- "I am in a straight betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and TO BE WITH CHRIST; which is far better."
2. 2 Corinthians 5:8 -- "To be absent from the body (death), and to be PRESENT WITH THE LORD." (in heaven)
3. Hebrews 12:1 -- "We are surrounded by so great a cloud of WITNESSES". (The departed believers discussed in Hebrews 11)
4. Hebrews 12:23-24 -- "The heavenly Jerusalem ... the church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven and to the SPIRITS of just men made perfect".
5. 1 Thessalonians 4:14 -- "Them also which sleep in Jesus will God BRING WITH HIM". This means that when Christ returns to resurrect believers bodies at the second coming, He brings our spirits and souls with Him from heaven
6. Revelation 6:9-10 -- "I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the Word of God ... they cried with a loud voice saying..."
7. Isaiah 14:9-10 -- "Hell from beneath ... stirs up the dead for thee. All they shall speak and say to thee."
8. Ezekiel 32:21 -- "The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell ..."
9. Ezekiel 32:30-31 -- "The Zidonians which are gone down with the slain ... Pharaoh shall see them and shall be comforted, even Pharaoh and all his army slain by the sword."
10. Luke 16:19-31 -- the rich man and Lazarus who had died spoke to each other.
These 9 scriptures show soul sleep of SDAs to be false.
3. CHRIST
Mrs. White said: "Christ took upon His sinless nature our sinful nature. Christ took our nature and it's deteriorating condition." (Q.D. p.654-656).
According to White and SDAs, Christ acquired a sinful nature. This is false. Christ had a sinless human nature. Christ took our sin punishment, not our sin nature.
4. LOSS OF SALVATION
"Now while our Great High Priest is making atonement for us, we should seek to become perfect in Christ." (The Great Controversy, E.G. White, 1911, p. 623).
SDAs teach that though saved by grace, we are kept saved by keeping the Law. This is partial atonement. Therefore, to stay saved according to SDAs, we must continue to keep the Sabbath, the 10 Commandments and pay the tithe.
5. INVESTIGATIVE JUDGMENT
Investigative judgment means no assurance of salvation. According to SDAs, beginning on October 22, 1844, Christ entered upon the "judgment phase" of His ministry, whereby He blots out sin. The SDA "Investigative Judgment" doctrine rests on Ellen White's claimed revelation that Christ entered the Holy of Holies not at His ascension, but in 1844 (The Great Controversy, p.362-373).
Hebrews 9:12 contradicts White's theory: "by His own blood he entered (past tense) in once (not in 1844) into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.' Hebrews 9:12, 25.
"... now once in the end of the world hath (past) he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself" (v.26).
SDAs teach that Christ transferred the record of believers sins to the heavenly sanctuary, which will be finally cleansed at the conclusion of the Investigative Judgment, their day of atonement.
Mrs. White says in "Patriarchs and Prophets", p. 357, this heresy: "The blood of Christ, while it was to release the repentant sinner from the condemnation of the law, was not to cancel the sin. It would stand on record in the sanctuary until the final atonement."
Hence SDAs sins are not cancelled or forgiven yet. What a worry. No wonder they have no assurance of salvation until the imaginary Investigative Judgment is finished.
Q: If Christ can create the universe in 6 days, why does he take from 1844 until now to investigate the books? Is Christ a slow reader?
These verses show the Investigative Judgment to be false:
"The Lord knoweth them that are His." (2 Timothy 2:19)
"I know my sheep." (John 10:14)
"cleanse us from all unrighteousness." (1 John 1:9)
"he had by himself purged our sins." (Hebrews 1:3)
"yet now hath he reconciled ..." (Colossians 1:21)
"having forgiven you all trespasses." (Colossians 2:13)
Christ's judgments are AFTER he returns, not BEFORE He returns: "When the Son of Man shall come in his glory ... then shall he sit upon the throne of His glory: and before Him shall be gathered all nations." (Matthew 25:31-32)
Hebrews 4:13 exposes the SDA limitation on Christ's omniscience: "Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do."
Since Jesus knows all cases already, why must He investigate?
6. SATAN AS THE SCAPEGOAT FOR OUR SINS
White says in TGC page 422: "When Christ, by virtue of His own blood, removes the sins of His people from the heavenly sanctuary at the close of His ministration, He will place them upon satan, who, in the execution of the judgment, must bear the final penalty."
Satan, according to SDA's, becomes the scapegoat of Leviticus 16. This lack of clear distinction between the forgiveness of sins at salvation, and the blotting out of sins at some time in the future, makes it impossible for anyone to know, even at death, whether he is saved or not.
SDAs are not allowed to experience assurance of salvation, because there would be no pressure for them to keep the Old Testament law and Sabbath as interpreted by Ellen White.
Having the sins of all men laid on satan, assigns to satan an indispensable role in the blotting out of sins. This nullifies the all-sufficiency of the finished work of Christ.
7. ANOTHER GOSPEL
The Investigative Judgment and Scapegoat theories are "another Gospel" that Paul warns us about in Galatians 1:8-9. Paul places a curse on those preaching a false gospel such as SDAs.
8. THE MARK OF THE BEAST
SDAs believe that Sunday keeping will be the mark of the Beast of Revelation 13:16-18.
White says in TGC, page 449: "But when Sunday observance shall be enforced by law, and the world shall be enlightened concerning the obligation of the true Sabbath, then whoever shall transgress the command of God, to obey a precept which has no higher authority than that of Rome, will thereby honor popery above God. He is paying homage to Rome and to the power which enforces the institution ordained by Rome. He is worshipping the beast and his image. As men then reject the institution which God has declared to be the sign of His authority, and honor in its stead that which Rome has chosen as the token of her supremacy, they will thereby accept the sign of allegiance to Rome--'the mark of the beast.' And it is not until the issue is thus plainly set before the people, and they are brought to choose between the commandments of God and the commandments of men, that those who continue in transgression will receive 'the mark of the beast.'"
This is not rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Timothy 2:15). This shows SDAs careless, deceitful handling of Scripture.
9. SDA'S ARE VERY CONFUSED ON PROPHECY SUBJECTS
SDAs think that God has finished with Israel. Romans 11:2 and 25 contradict this idea. To SDAs, much of Revelation had been fulfilled by 500 AD. They don't understand Daniel's 70 week prophecy. (Daniel 9:24-27)
REFUTING FALSE TEACHINGS ON THE SANCTUARY MESSAGES BELIEVED PARTLY BY FLAT-EARTH-TEDDY-BUG AND FULLY BY THE AMAZING HEADLESS PROPHET PIRIPIPI
Posted : 15 Aug, 2022 11:39 AM
FIRST of all tinydavid said he would provide evidence from EGW books in how she is a false prophet! Where is it? For tinydavid ONLY speaks here of SDA supposed DOCTRINES!!! What does anything posted here have to do with the 'SANCTUARY MESSAGES' that were posted in other threads??? LOL!
NOW WITH THAT UNDERSTOOD, FOLKS, Just READ what this IDIOT false teacher that READS INTO Scripture says! IT HILARIOUS and tinydavid HIDES like a COWARD behind these articles because he is LAZY to do any kind of Bible study on his own! NOTE THE MASSIVE different topics and doctrines that are brought up and will TAKE MANY threads to cover them all BUUUUT for now we will apply them to tinydavid one by one and into the future because he claims EVERYTHING POSTED here (copied and pasted ONLY by the LAZY non participating tinydavid in discussion and purpose of this part of the forum mind you! GEESH, how disrespectful of this forum!), is the truth supposedly by his false teachers, so we will treat them as if tinydavid the CHICKEN LITTLE he is, as if he wrote them! What a LAZY COWARD!
So lets take OWNERSHIP of tinydavid and expose his error here, since the CULT teacher 'keith piper' is NOT on this forum!
So tinydavid says about the so called subject of 'soul sleep' and it goes like this, his number #5 - QUOTE - '5. 1 Thessalonians 4:14 -- "Them also which sleep in Jesus will God BRING WITH HIM". then tinydavid says - 'This means that when Christ returns to resurrect believers >>>bodies<<< at the second coming, He >>>brings our spirits and souls<<< with Him from heaven'
BUUUUUUUWWWWWWAAHHHHHAHAHA! Is that HOLLLYWOOD BALONEY or what??? Yeah, bone head tinydavid just said we are like a 'triune' in a human form being(s) now, 3 persons separate, so not only does he claim we have a separate 'spirit' and 'soul' that goes to heaven in two, supposedly NEVER dying he claims, BUUUUUT that same 'spirit' and 'soul' person(s) is not DEAD at all but ONLY the BODY is DEAD in that 'triune' of person(s)! LOL! Two go to heaven and one stays here on earth, a BODY >>>in<<< the ground/hell/grave! LOL! So according to the bone head tinydavid in what goes on between the spinning sphere of his ears here in teaching, in his PAGAN CULT teaching that is, the Messiah Yah'shua returns with this double package of 'soul' and 'spirit' of two separate humans (but supposedly are one?) AND He puts those TWO in a BODY He takes from Hell the grave and the OLD BODY, changes it into NEW BODY and is ALIVE again, resurrected!!! LMBO! Folks you just cannot make this stuff up on how utterly STUUUUUUUUUUPID tinydavid is in LOGIC and COMMON SENSE! GEESH, let alone CONTEXTUAL study! He brings NEW MEANING to the WORD STUPID!!! LOL!
So tinydavid teaches the original LIE of satan in Genesis 3:4, that you 'shall not surely DIE' because according to tinydavid, two of each of us, 'soul' and 'spirit' (LOL!) goes to heaven and NEVER EVER DIES, his devil says thru tinydavid, and the other singular BODY part stays in hell the grave site to ROT! Think about this dear readers! WHATS THE POINT IN COMING BACK TO EARTH to get just a DEAD DECAYED BODY, then to change it, when the saints have ALREADY been in heaven supposedly according to tinyinstudydavid, enjoying fellowship and worshipping the CREATOR YHWH??? BUUUUT it gets soooooo much WORSE for bone head tinydavid, BECAUSE if the saints are in heaven in double selves ONLY as a 'soul' and 'spirit' then how can they speak with no mouth, see with no eyes, hear with no ears and touch, hug, breath, eat of the tre of life etc etc with NO BODY!!!???
BUUUUUUUWWWWWWAAHHHHHAHAHA!!! BUSTED tinydavid, YOU ARE A FOOL dude!
What does Paul have to say of what a HUMAN consists of as a UNIT and ONE and made in >>>whole<<< by our Creator YHWH???
1 Thessalonians 5:23 'And the very YHWH of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray YHWH >>>your whole spirit and soul and body<<< be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Messiah Yah'shua. '
BUSTED false teacher tinydavid!!!
spirit and soul and body preserved where? In hell the grave site when He returns for His saints! GEESH its all too simple to understand when you STUDY >>>CONTEXT<<< of Scripture! So where does Paul separate the supposed two other human(s) of 'soul' and 'spirit' that are suppose to be in heaven and NEVER DID DIE according to CULTIST tinydavid (LOL!) and then reunites those two with a third HUMAN body??? LMBO! Anybody see a problem with the CULT false teacher tinydavid now???
Conclusion: Leave the CULT teaching movement of littledavid's false teaching today and his personal written website!
REFUTING FALSE TEACHINGS ON THE SANCTUARY MESSAGES BELIEVED PARTLY BY FLAT-EARTH-TEDDY-BUG AND FULLY BY THE AMAZING HEADLESS PROPHET PIRIPIPI
Posted : 16 Aug, 2022 05:34 AM
@Teddyhug
You are a false witness of Bible Truths!
You insult and talk degrading to me and other Believers.
God is watching you name-calling and your Lack of Knowledge!!
What does the Bible say about a false witness?
false witness
Bearing false witness is mentioned many times in the Bible, exclusively as something bad. “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor” is the ninth of the Ten Commandments that Moses brought back with him from his encounter with God on Mount Sinai (Exodus 20:16). False witness, or spreading a false report, is associated with being allied with the wicked (Exodus 23:1), willing to do violence to others (Psalm 27:12), and sowing discord among brothers (Proverbs 6:19). The Bible calls bearing false witness lying (Proverbs 14:5) and compares a man who bears false witness against his neighbor to a violent weapon (Proverbs 25:18). Lies harm people.
A false witness is one who stands up and swears before others that something untrue is true, especially with the intention of hurting someone else or ruining his reputation. This happened to David (Psalm 27:12), Jesus (Matthew 26:60; Mark 14:56), and Stephen (Acts 6:13). When the wicked Queen Jezebel wished to procure a vineyard for her sulking husband, King Ahab, she employed two false witnesses. Naboth, the rightful owner of the vineyard, was seated in an honorable place on a day of fasting, but “then two scoundrels came and sat opposite him and brought charges against Naboth before the people, saying, ‘Naboth has cursed both God and the king.’ So they took him outside the city and stoned him to death” (1 Kings 21:13). What the “scoundrels” said against Naboth was absolutely untrue; they were bearing false witness with impunity and with the queen’s blessing. As a result, an innocent man was killed. When a person is righteous and his enemies can find nothing with which to blame him, bearing false witness is a common weapon.
The lies told by a false witness come from the sinful human heart—along with murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, slander, and evil thoughts (Matthew 15:19). Jesus said that man is defiled by these evil things that come from the heart. The only possible cure for an evil heart that bears false witness is to receive a new, pure heart, which can only be given by God (Ezekiel 36:26). When a person is indwelt by the Holy Spirit, he will be like a fresh spring or a fruitful tree or a budding vine, bursting with good things (John 7:38; Psalm 1:1–6; John 15:4–5). The old is gone, and the new takes its place (Ephesians 4:22–24). Those who are in Christ have a new heart that speaks the truth: “Each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor” (Ephesians 4:25). A person who bears false witness is controlled by the flesh rather than by the Spirit of God, and he should repent of that sin and turn to Christ.
"There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to Him...a lying tongue...a false witness who breathes out lies..." (Proverbs 6:16–19).