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Ohiograce^

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Posted : 21 Jul, 2022 01:47 PM

By my title you may have thought I was going to talk about genesis 1. But you would be wrong.



Salvation is seen by some as a creative act of God. Most see it as a process.



Those who believe in salvation as a creation of God, believe that he started it and completed it. They also believe he sustains it. He who began a good work in you will complete it(philippians 1:6). Christ is the author/beginner and finisher of faith(hebrews 12:2). Note the rebuke to the galatians-having been started by the Spirit, are you making yourselves complete by the flesh (3:3)?



Romans 8:30 says regarding those whom God foreknew, he predestined. Those he predestined, he also called. Those he called, he also justified. Those he justified, he also glorified. These are the same people from the ones foreknown to the ones glorified. Paul uses the past tense for every part of God's work. The last one is in the past tense. He glorified. We would expect something like, he will glorify. But I believe Paul is viewing it from God's perspective, not ours. As far as God is concerned, the work is done.

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 21 Jul, 2022 01:56 PM

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:





Fear God and keep His commandments, For this is man's all.

Ecclesiastes 12:13





Fyi



This is Why God created man .

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 21 Jul, 2022 03:18 PM

Interesting post. 👍

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 21 Jul, 2022 03:18 PM

Interesting thread, I mean‼️👍

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Ohiograce^

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Posted : 27 Jul, 2022 09:45 AM

Grace is NOT compatible with works(romans 11:6). It is God who saved us and called us with a holy calling, NOT according to OUR WORKS BUT according to HIS OWN PURPOSE and GRACE which was given to us in Christ Jesus before the ages began(2 Timothy 1:9).

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Ohiograce^

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2022 04:23 PM

Heb 13:9 Do not be carried away with various strange teachings; for it is good for the heart to be established by grace, not by foods, in which foods those who lived received no benefit.



See Hebrews 9:10. In the context of hebrews this could refer to the general laws that distinguished between clean and unclean foods. It could also refer to the priests who ate from the sacrifices. Either way, the contrast is between grace as manifested in hebrews in the once for all sacrifice of Christ and the physical eating of foods. It says there is no benefit or profit in the eating of foods. The heart is not established by foods, but it is established by grace. That is a major emphasis of hebrews, between the physical and the spiritual. There is no value or benefit in the physical ordinances or the temple and the sacrifices. It's in the grace of God as found in Christ who replaced all those things with himself.

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 30 Jul, 2022 05:31 PM

😇👍

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Pipiripi

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Posted : 7 Aug, 2022 11:11 PM

Today we are living in the end of time of this evil world. Jesus is about to come, and many Christians are sleeping.



We all have a duty to do. Is time to preached the Three Angels Messages. Many Christians even dont know where it is in the Bible.



The question is are we the remnant people of God today?



And what you mean with evolution?

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 8 Aug, 2022 05:56 AM

Evolution a mythical false notion that pretends to be a scientific explanation for organic and geological origins.



The Seventh-day Adventist’s teach the "three angels' messages" from Revelation 14:6–12.



Did you know Seven-day Adventism is a false Christianity?

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Ohiograce^

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Posted : 8 Aug, 2022 07:56 AM

I used the phrase "creation or evolution" to refer to two contrasting views of salvation.



One view says that salvation is the work of God, begun by Him and completed by Him, hence a fiat "creation."



The other view says that salvation is our work, started and initiated by us and completed by us. But this view says that it isn't really completed at all. Why? because they say you can't know for sure until your dead, because it is an "evolution." By our works, those teachers say, we are making ourselves fit for heaven, good enough for heaven.

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