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What do the scriptures say about salvation and eternal security?
The doctrine of once saved, always saved, also referred to as eternal security, has been the subject of much debate. But what do the scriptures say about salvation?
Once saved, always saved?
The scripture that is most commonly quoted to support this doctrine is John 10:28: “They shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.” On the surface this can seem like it is true that once saved, we are always saved.
Indeed, no one can snatch them out of Jesus’ hand, but they can put themselves outside of Jesus’ hand. In chapter John 15:4 Jesus exhorts His disciples, “Abide in Me, and I in you.” And further in John 15:6 He says, “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.”
Salvation is not unconditional
Every promise of salvation in the scripture has a condition. If we fulfil the conditions the promises are ours. For example, we read in Colossians 1:21-23: “And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight if indeed you continue in the faith …” Do you see the condition? “If indeed you continue in the faith.” In 1 Timothy 1:19 Paul refers to some, who by rejecting a good conscience, had made a shipwreck of their faith—clearly not once saved, always saved.
In Hebrews 3:12-14 we are warned: “Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; but exhort one another daily, while it is called ‘Today’, lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end.” Do you see the condition again? “If we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end.”
We know that if we sin we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. Yes, if we are genuinely sorry and repentant there is an abundance of forgiveness in Jesus. But the danger is that by repeatedly yielding to the same temptation a hardening sets in. We are not as sorry as when we first fell in this sin, become more and more hardened and finally end up with “an evil heart of unbelief” and lose our confidence. We depart from the living God. We put ourselves outside of His hand.
We don't need to fall in temptation
So how can we prevent such a hardening taking place, when our experience is that we repeatedly fall in temptation? The good news of the gospel is that we don’t need to repeatedly fall in temptation. “For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.” Hebrews 4:15-16. It is clear from these verses that our time of need is when we are tempted.
Jesus overcame and now He can help us to overcome. “For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.” Hebrews 2:18. “Therefore, since Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin.” 1 Peter 4:1.
So let us not allow ourselves to be lulled into a false sense of security that we are once saved, always saved, and put our salvation in jeopardy, but rather do as Paul exhorts in Philippians 2:12: “Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” Let us make our calling and election sure! (2 Peter 1:10)
How many times will you post about this each year, what 5 maybe 10.
Now moon has another copy and paste article which teveals she is not reading the Word of GOD Almighty for herself.
Moon posts 'Salvation is not UNCONDITIONAL' , and then wants people to believe there is something they must do to be saved, AND to continue to be saved, Moon believes in Works to be saved, and works to maintain ones salvation.
So sad moon but, 'The JUST shall live by faith', in Yeshua alone, no works involved to being saved by GRACE, thru faith.
Ahhh mooncakes, it too bad you are so LAZY you will NOT do your own Bible study on this topic but its just too hard for you to look up the verses but at least they are here in somewhat CONTEXT and the point is CLEAR, the O'S'A'S' is a false doctrine as you KNOW mooncakes and I agree also , it is part of the CULT 'churches' that teach it!
@Quiznos
How many times will you >>>ATTEMPT<<< to prove your O'S'A'S' false doctrine post about this each year, what 5, maybe 10 times?
mooncakes never said - 'people (need) to believe there is something they must do to be saved, AND to continue to be saved, Moon believes in Works to be saved, and works to maintain ones salvation.'
Your being assumptive that she did, that's just what littledavid does, slanders people! WOW! So then YOU take Scripture OUT OF CONTEXT by only posting what Ephesians 2:8 and 9 says - QUOTE - 'The JUST shall live by faith', in Yeshua alone, no works involved to being saved by GRACE, thru faith.' BUUUUUUUT strangely and typically, CULTLY like, most
churches' teach today, when YOU and them leave out verse 10, which says in ESV - ' For we are his workmanship, created in Messiah Yah'shua for good works, which YHWH prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.' AMEN! WORKS clearly follows FAITH, does it NOT Quiz???
The verses posted in the article CLEARLY say a REAL Christian will CHOOSE to >>>continue in the faith,<<< which CERTAINLY would consist of WORKS >>>after<<< initial salvation by GRACE THRU FAITH! Its an EVERYDAY decision to CONTINUE IN THE FAITH! GEESH, so simple!
Verses given in the above article (unfortunately NOT by mooncakes own discussion and Bible study and the PURPOSE of this part of the forum that is NOT about copy and paste! ) and are AGAIN listed below for the BLIND like Quiznos!
Colossians 1:21-23: “And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight >>>if indeed you continue in the faith …”<<<
Notice the clear teaching of Paul that WORKS (ACTION) and FAITH (BELIEF) go glove and hand together - if indeed you continue (ACTION/WORKS) in the faith' !!!
Quiznos, what happens to those who sin >>>AFTER<<< once having FAITH and now therefore LOSE FAITH and no longer 'abide in' the symbol 'fruit producing tree' of Messiah Yah'shua in their everyday lives? What happens to the branches then?
John 15:6 He says, “If anyone does not abide in Me (live like me Yah'shua), he/she is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.”
Hmmmm, how about some more VISION help for you Quiznos!
'In 1 Timothy 1:19 Paul refers to some, who by >>>rejecting a good conscience,<<< had >>>made a shipwreck of their faith<<<—clearly not once saved, always saved.'
How about the ULTIMATE KILL SHOT to those like you Quiznos that claim AFTER initial salvation BY GRACE THRU FAITH, that somehow there is NO WORKS that FOLLOWS, REAL Christians/Messianic's, forgetting verse 10 of Ephesians chapter 2 ????????????????????????????????????
'In Hebrews 3:12-14 we are warned: “Beware, >>>brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living YHWH;<<< but exhort one another daily, while it is called ‘Today’, >>>lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.<<< For we have >>>become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end.<<<” Do you see our WALK/WORKS in Yah'shua again Quiz? “If we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end.”
Clearly Quiznos, in Hebrews (and that's not the guys only that 'brew' the coffee Quiznos! ) it says they are brethren; meaning fellow believers that can CHOOSE to be UNbelievers in departing (giving up the FAITH!) from the living YHWH'!
'lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.' YES Quiznos, some may CHOOSE to sin and become SHIPWRECK in LOSS of salvation! GEESH, its so obvious!
And the REAL KILL SHOT on FREE WILL CREATURES that we are >>BEFORE<<< and >>>AFTER<<< initial salvation, QUOTE - 'For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of >>>our confidence steadfast to the end.<<<' !!! End of what Quiznos??? End of our LIVES while on earth, our WALK/ACTION and PROVEN FAITH while alive!
When will you wake up GNWS, which is your old forum name and you STILL do not understand Ephesians 2:8-10...... BECAUSE you DELETE in your minds eye verse 10!? Why Quiz? What 5, maybe 10 times a year?
Oh and Quiznos, there is NO 'works to maintain ones salvation' as works is the EVIDENCE of a Christian/Messianic FAITH. Without WORKS, what proves your FAITH???
FAITH is the salvation part and WORKS follows those that are FAITHFUL to do good WORKS, which is the EVIDENCE of the salvation you already have BY FAITH to begin with!
TeddyHug mixes a little truth and a little false doctrine and then out comes his own false teaching.
Those who teach you can lose your salvation are actually legalists but just don’t know it AND they don’t know scripture either because no scripture teaches that a true believer can loose God given salvation‼️‼️‼️
Those who believe in loosing salvation think of salvation as if it starts and ends with them. The truth is, salvation starts with Jesus and never ends
TeddyHug has at least one thing right. Salvation is free but the evidences of true salvation are the good works that flow form salvation and are performed with the help of the Spirit. But Teddy falsely mixes his own false sinless perfectionism in there as if to say people, after salvation, were now as sinless and perfect in their old sin natures as Jesus is perfect in his humanity—yes he said that, I have him on record‼️‼️
The big mistakes,
Teddy thinks that he keeps himself saved (all those who believe they can loose their salvation believe similarly whether they know it or not), and Teddy falsely believes he can also decide to UNsave himself‼️
No truly saved person would EVER “decide to UNsave themselves‼️‼️ WOWSA‼️‼️
but its just too hard for you to look up the verses 
but at least they are here in somewhat CONTEXT and the point is CLEAR, the O'S'A'S' is a false doctrine as you KNOW mooncakes and I agree also 
, it is part of the CULT 'churches' that teach it! 
WOW! So then YOU take Scripture OUT OF CONTEXT by only posting what Ephesians 2:8 and 9 says - QUOTE - 'The JUST shall live by faith', in Yeshua alone, no works involved to being saved by GRACE, thru faith.' 
BUUUUUUUT strangely and typically, CULTLY like, most 
AMEN! WORKS clearly follows FAITH, does it NOT Quiz??? 
) it says they are brethren; meaning fellow believers that can CHOOSE to be UNbelievers in departing (giving up the FAITH!) from the living YHWH'! 
Why Quiz? What 5, maybe 10 times a year?