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Christ died for our sins
Posted : 16 Jul, 2022 03:07 PM

Christians don't agree on what that means. Some Christians believe that Christ only died for the sins we committed before we got saved. Of course, in spite of the passages that refer to salvation in the past tense(ephesians 2:8, 2 timothy 1:9, etc.), some churches deny that salvation has occurred. They teach that there is no assurance, that you can only hope that you will be saved.



The letter to the hebrews presents a contrast between the many sacrifices done in the temple with the one sacrifice of Christ. If Christ offered himself as the priests or highpriests, he would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world. But now once, at the end of the ages, he has appeared to put away sin by his sacrifice(hebrews 9:25-26). In those sacrifices in the temple there is a remembrance of sins every year(10:3).

By which "will"(or plan, see 10:5-9) we have been set apart(sanctified, made holy) through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all(10:10). And every priest has stood daily serving and offering the same sacrifices often, which are not ever able to take away sins. But he himself, having offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at God's right side(10:11-12).



If a Christian or a church teaches loss of salvation, they are placing themselves under the same kind of works program done in the temple. If they say that Christ died only for the sins we committed before we believed in Christ, they are saying that we have to do something to pay for those sins. Some churches are more blatant in this teaching. Others gloss it over. But that is the doctrine that they are teaching. It is totally contrary to what Hebrews teaches. They cannot sing "He paid it all." Because they don't believe He did.

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Posted : 16 Jul, 2022 03:53 PM

The churches I attended teaches Jesus Christ paid it all.

He alone paid our sin debt in full.



As Believers, we put our trust in what Jesus did at the Cross. He suffered, died and He rose again on the third day.



The Bible does teach Repentance for any sins you may commit after Salvation.





The Bible does Not support sinless perfectionism.



No man is perfect but JESUS!

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Posted : 16 Jul, 2022 08:42 PM

This sounds like assurance of salvation here.



1 John 5:13

New International Version

I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may >>know<< that you have >>eternal<< life.



Romans 8:35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword?



36As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;

we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”



37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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Posted : 16 Jul, 2022 08:51 PM

Those who leave the faith prove one thing, they never were saved at the start.



1 John 2:19

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They went out from us, but they >>did not really belong to us<<<. For if they had belonged to us, >>>they would have remained with us<<<; but their going >>>showed<<< that none of them belonged to us.



Just like there will be false teachers who fool lots of people there will also be false believers who fool lots of people.



Just think what Judas must have looked like following Jesus around and doing all those miracles⁉️ No one had a clue he was a fake believer except Jesus

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 16 Jul, 2022 08:53 PM

Even Judas might not have known, at first, that he was just a fake

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 17 Jul, 2022 06:02 AM

Some christians believe water baptism is a prerequisite for Salvation.



No it is not.

Baptism is an affirmation of salvation.



Yes I was Baptized.



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Posted : 17 Jul, 2022 06:09 AM

@ohio

Every sin of every person past, present, and future was FORGIVEN before there was anything created.

GOD Almighty saw the cross before He created the tree the cross was made from.

YESHUA, had come into this lige already knowing what was before Him, He came into time

to do what the Father had already done outside of time.

John 5 verse 19

Berean Study Bible

So Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing by Himself, unless He sees the Father doing it. For whatever the Father does, the Son also does.

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Posted : 17 Jul, 2022 06:33 AM

So Quiznos you don't think you need to Repent for any sins you commit now ?



@Quiznos









The Bible does teach repentance right ?

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Posted : 17 Jul, 2022 08:28 AM

@moon

While you and the rest of the christians are busy TRYING to repent of your already forgiven

sins, i will be repenting of the root of sin called Unbelief.

Now where are YOU told to repent of your sins after trusting Yeshua, and do not post anything about confessing sin, the two are mutually exclusive,confession is not repentance.

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Posted : 17 Jul, 2022 01:27 PM

If a Christian Believer is Already Saved, Why is Ongoing Repentance Necessary?











Basics Of Faith, Christian life, Ethics, Relationshipsconfession of sin, faith, repentance, salvation

Jesus linked repentance with salvation (Matthew 4:17; Luke 13:3; 17:3).



In Acts 2:38, the term repentance includes the element of faith. Paul in Ephesus preached turning “to God in repentance” and “faith in our Lord Jesus Christ” (Acts 20:21). Repentance is an ingredient of faith. It is a change of mind that involves both a negative aspect (a turning from sin) and a positive one (a turning to God). On Mars Hill, Paul declared that God “commands all people everywhere to repent, because He has fixed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by a Man whom He has appointed; and of this He has given assurance to all men by raising Him from the dead” (Acts 17:30-31 ESV).



Even the most mature Christian harbors unconscious sin (Proverbs 20:9; Isaiah 53:6; 1 John 1:8) and will be corrected by the Holy Spirit as hidden sin is brought to the surface. When Christians come to the realization that they have been committing serious sins, there are two reasons they should repent. The first is to express the genuineness of their faith. (A person who is unwilling to renounce continuing, conscious, serious sin may not be a genuine believer.) The second reason is to maintain a close relationship with their Father in heaven.



As Judge, God declared us pardoned and accepted into His family when we put our trust in Jesus. But as God’s children, we can remain in close fellowship to Him only when we daily acknowledge our sins and ask His help in overcoming them. Jesus said that a person who has been bathed doesn’t need another bath; his only need is to have his feet washed.



Jesus . . . rose from supper and laid aside His garments, took a towel and girded Himself. After that, He poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples’ feet, and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded. Then He came to Simon Peter. And Peter said to Him, “Lord, are You washing my feet?” Jesus answered and said to him, “What I am doing you do not understand now, but you will know after this.” Peter said to Him, “You shall never wash my feet!” Jesus answered him, “If I do not wash you, you have no part with Me.” Simon Peter said to Him, “Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head!” Jesus said to him, “He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you.” For He knew who would betray Him; therefore He said, “You are not all clean” (John 13:3-11 NKJV).



The bath of which Jesus spoke is that once-for-all, complete cleansing received at salvation. Foot washing symbolizes the family forgiveness maintained by daily repentance and confession.



First John 1:9 declares, “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (NKJV). By practicing the words of this verse, we enjoy our relationship with our heavenly Father and we grow in likeness to Him. The daily cleansing we receive through repentance and confession will also make us less vulnerable to temptation and readier to do His will.

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Posted : 17 Jul, 2022 01:29 PM

@ Quiznos





You think you know it All, but you are Lacking!





Bible study is Online too like most all things.

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