Thread: FALSE TEACHER AND HERETIC TEDDYHUG TEACHES THAT HELL IS JUST THE “GRAVE” BUT WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT THE ETERNAL TORMENTS OF ETERNAL HELL
FALSE TEACHER AND HERETIC TEDDYHUG TEACHES THAT HELL IS JUST THE “GRAVE” BUT WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT THE ETERNAL TORMENTS OF ETERNAL HELL
Posted : 1 Jul, 2022 06:20 AM
What is hell?
by Matt Slick | Apr 30, 2008 | Doctrine and Theology, Christian Theology
Hell is one of those subjects that makes people uncomfortable. We hear stories of hell being a place of fire, demons, and endless torment. Throughout history, many authors have written about it – Dante’s Inferno, for example. Western culture is very familiar with the concept. Even Hollywood has made it the subject of many movies. Whatever the context, whatever the belief, hell is definitely taught in the Bible. But even the doctrine of hell is not without its controversy. Some say it is only the grave with no consciousness. Others say it is a place of correction and punishment that is not eternal. Others say it is an endless agonizing punishment in fire. Whichever it is, hell is the total absence of the favor of God.
The words associated with Hell
Gehenna
In the OT the word for hell is ‘ge-hinnom,’ meaning “Valley of Hinnom.” It was a place to the southwest of Jerusalem. This place was once “called ‘Topheth’ and derived from an Aramaic word meaning ‘fireplace.’ It was here that some pagan kings practiced human sacrifice by fire (2 Chron. 28:3; 33:6; Jer. 7:31; 32:35).1 This is probably why in the NT the word came to be associated with destruction by fire. The word ‘gehenna’ is found in the NT 12 times and every instance is spoken of by Jesus. In the NT, “gehenna” is used of a condition and never of a place.
Hades
This word only occurs in the NT ten times and corresponds to the OT word “sheol.” Jesus uses the word four times: Matt. 11:23; 16:18; Luke 10:15; 16:23. The other six occur in Acts 2:27, 31; Rev. 1:18; 6:8; 20:13, 14.
It was probably the “subterranean abode of all the dead until the judgment. It was divided into two departments, paradise or Abraham’s bosom for the good, and Gehenna or hell for the bad.”2 In particular, in the account of Lazarus and the Rich man of (Luke 16:19-31), it is the place of the conscious dead who are wicked.
Sheol
“The Hebrew word Sheol is probably derived from a root “to make hollow,” and was seen as the common receptacle of the dead and in the great many places the word appears in the OT, it is referring to the grave.3 It is a place and is mentioned in Gen. 37:35; Num. 16:30, 33; Psalm 16:10, etc. Sheol has many meanings in scripture: the grave, the underworld, the state of the dead. It was supposed to be below the surface of the earth (Ezek. 31:15,17; Psalm 86:13).
Is Hell eternal conscious torment?
There are some Christian groups and many cults that deny the idea that hell, in the general sense, means eternal, conscious punishment. Some maintain that God’s eternal punishment is annihilation or non-existence. Others say it is temporal, and that eventually all will be saved out of hell. Perhaps the most common objection is that a loving God would never punish people in eternal torment. We agree that God is love (1 John 4:8), but He is also just (Neh. 9:32-33; 2 Thess. 1:6) and eternal (Psalm 90:2; 1 Tim. 1:17). God punishes the evildoer (Isaiah 11:13), and this punishment will be eternal. But the question remains, is this eternal punishment conscious or not?
There are verses that can be interpreted to support the idea that the dead are not conscious after death: (Ecc. 9:5–the dead know nothing4 and Psalm 146:4 – their thoughts perish – are good examples.) Other verses compare the dead to sleep: Acts 13:36; 1 Cor. 15:1-6; 1 Thess. 4:13, etc. But these latter verses are merely comparing the similarity between the appearance of the dead and the appearance of someone sleeping.
The dead are conscious after death
The wicked descend alive into Sheol
Num. 16:30, “But if the Lord brings about an entirely new thing and the ground opens its mouth and swallows them up with all that is theirs, and they descend alive into Sheol, then you will understand that these men have spurned the Lord… 33 So they and all that belonged to them went down alive to Sheol, and the earth closed over them, and they perished from the midst of the assembly.”
Cast to outer darkness with weeping and gnashing of teeth
Matt. 8:12, “but the sons of the kingdom shall be cast out into the outer darkness; in that place, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
Those cast into the fire suffer consciously
Matt. 13:41-42, “The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire; in that place, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” See also, Matt. 13:50.
Cast into a tormenting fire
Rev. 14:9-11, “And another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, 10 he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 “And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” See also, Rev. 21:8.
Thrown into the lake of Fire
Rev. 20:10, “And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
Hell is a place of eternal fire and punishment
Unquenchable Fire hell fire
Matt. 3:12 “And His winnowing fork is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clear His threshing floor; and He will gather His wheat into the barn, but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”
Fiery Hell
Matt. 5:22, “whoever shall say, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.” See also, Matt. 5:29, 30.
Matt. 18:8-9, “And if your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the eternal fire. 9 “And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out, and throw it from you. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than having two eyes, to be cast into the fiery hell.”
Eternal Fire
Matt. 25:41, “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels.”
Eternal Punishment
Matt. 25:46, “And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
The word “eternal” in both places is “aionios” which means 1) without beginning and end, that which always has been and always will be; 2) without beginning; 3) without end, never to cease, everlasting. The word “punishment” is the word “kolasis” and it means “to punish, with the implication of resulting severe suffering – ‘to punish, punishment.'”5
Eternal Fire
Jude 7, “Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.”
Thrown into the lake of Fire
Rev. 20:10, “And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”
Lake of Fire
Rev. 20:15, “And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.”
Luke 16:19-31, Lazarus and the rich man
In Luke 16:19-31 is the story of Lazarus and the rich man. Basically, Lazarus is a poor man who suffers during life. The rich man is, of course, rich. They both die. The rich man goes to Hades. Lazarus goes to Abraham’s bosom, another term for paradise. In Hades, the rich man lifts up his eyes and sees Lazarus far off. He cries out to Abraham and asks for mercy because he is in agony in flame. Abraham says no. Then the rich man asks if someone from the dead were to rise and go tell his brothers not to come to this terrible place. Abraham teaches him that that will not be done either.
Some say that this is a parable. However, if it is, it is unique because no other parable actually names a person. It isn’t a story. It is history. It really happened. But many who believe in no consciousness after death will say it is still a parable. The question is then if it is a parable, what is it teaching? If hellfire is false and if self-awareness after death is also false, then Jesus is using false doctrines to teach the truth. Parables illustrate truth. If it is a parable, what does the consciousness after death symbolize? Also, what does the agony in flame symbolize? Are they not real? Of course, they are.
Conclusion
Hell is a real place. It is not mere unconsciousness. It is not temporal. It is eternal torment. Perhaps that is why Jesus spoke more of hell than heaven and spent so much time warning people not to go there. After all, if people just stopped existing, why warn them? If it was temporal, they’d get out in a while. But if it were eternal and conscious, then the warning is strong.
Jesus said, “And if your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out, and throw it from you; for it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off, and throw it from you; for it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to go into hell,” (Matt. 5:29-30).
References
1↑ Achtemeier, Paul J., Harper’s Bible Dictionary, (San Francisco: Harper and Row, Publishers, Inc.) 1985.
3↑ Vine, W. E., Vine’s Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words, (Grand Rapids, MI: Fleming H. Revell), 1981.
4↑ Ecclesiastes is a book that is addressed as things appear “under the sun” (Ecc. 1:3,9,14, etc.). In fact, the phrase “under the sun” occurs 29 times in Ecclesiastes, a book written from the human perspective that boldly states that all is vanity.
5↑ Louw, Johannes P. and Eugene A. Nida, Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament based on Semantic Domains, (New York: United Bible Societies), 1988, 1989.
FALSE TEACHER AND HERETIC TEDDYHUG TEACHES THAT HELL IS JUST THE “GRAVE” BUT WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT THE ETERNAL TORMENTS OF ETERNAL HELL
Posted : 11 Jul, 2022 08:04 PM
'WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT..... HELL' ???
Revelation 20:13 - 'And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and >>>death and hell<<< (the grave! ) delivered up the dead (since that is where DEAD people go is the grave! ) which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.'
Folks you just cannot make this stuff up in what tinydavid believes and here is just another example of a verse that TOTALLY >>>Annihilates<<< another of tinydavid's CULT teachings, namely that ' hell' is supposedly a place where continual sinners are alive in it! LMBO!
Note that BOTH '>death and hell< delivered up the >dead< which were in them' and so OBVIOUSLY 'hell' is NOT a burning place, right!? ITS THE GRAVE SITE!!! GEESH, its so simple, the DEAD ARE DEAD and will one day ALL be raised to judgment out of 'hell', one group of SINLESS SAINTS to ETERNAL LIFE and the other CONTINUALLY WICKED to ETERNAL DEATH, Correct readers?
Even Messiah Yah'shua was raised from 'hell' the grave!!! For King David says in Act 2:31 - ' He (King David) seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that >>>His soul<<< was not left in >>>hell<<<, neither his flesh (body) did see corruption (decay in the grave/hell for over 3 days!).
QUOTE OF CULT ARTICLE in its continual confusion on the definition of the word 'hell' for they say - 'There are verses that can be interpreted to support the idea that the dead are not conscious after death: (Ecc. 9:5–the dead know nothing [and the memory of them are forgotten!] and Psalm 146:4 – their thoughts perish – are good examples.)' AMEN!!! the article goes on to say - 'Other verses compare the dead to sleep: Acts 13:36; 1 Cor. 15:1-6; 1 Thess. 4:13, etc. But >>>these latter verses are merely comparing the similarity between the appearance of the dead and the appearance of someone sleeping.<<<' REALLY!? LOL!
So according to tinydavid and his CULT article, Lazarus was NOT really 'dead' but 'sleeping' so Messiah Yah'shua really didn't raise him from the dead, as the BIBLE says, but just woke him up as he was snoring in a tomb!!!??? LOL! FOLKS YOU JUST CANNOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP on how IGNORANT tinydavid wants to continue to be! According to tinydavid worshiped article then, Lazarus merely had 'the appearance of the dead and the appearance of someone sleeping'. LMBO!
What about the 'Eternal Fire' then?
QUOTE OF CULT ARTICLE verse but tinydavid is clueless to what Jude says - Jude 7, 'Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these
indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited >>>as an example, in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.' <<<
So AGAIN according to tiny-in-faith-to-the-context-of-the-Bible-david, Sodom and Gomorrah and those two WICKED cities were therefore NOT destroyed by YHWH for their wickedness (they have a >>>divine<<< 'spiritual nature' to keep them alive, a 'god' within them ! LOL! ) and it was NOT eternal in judgment because according to tinydavid they are STILL ALIVE in 'eternal torment' and you can go visit those cities today and hear them SCREAM in PAIN!!! LOL! LIKEWISE the story parallels the Genesis flood account in its theme of YHWH's justified anger (DEATH!) provoked by man's sin but tinydavid is now claiming they are all out in the ocean swimming around, sucking in large amounts of sea LEVEL (the earth is FLAT!) water and are also suffering 'eternal torment' in that judgment that never ends!!!??? FOLKS YOU JUST CANNOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP on how IGNORANT tinydavid wants to continue to
believe this ABOMINATION teaching of 'eternal life' of the WICKED!!!???
FALSE TEACHER AND HERETIC TEDDYHUG TEACHES THAT HELL IS JUST THE “GRAVE” BUT WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT THE ETERNAL TORMENTS OF ETERNAL HELL
Posted : 12 Jul, 2022 07:00 AM
Once again the false teacher TeddyBug laughs at eternal hell and then tries to falsify biblical contexts to prove his false teachings. But that’s what all false teachers do.
Why do false teachers laugh at eternal torments in hell⁉️ Most likely because they find the idea unsettling because they know their sin deserves eternal judgement.
So instead of confessing their sin in true repentance, they instead attack the person who is trying to help them avoid eternal hell by warning them about it
) delivered up the dead (since that is where DEAD people go is the grave! 
) which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.' 
LMBO! 
ITS THE GRAVE SITE!!! 
LOL! 
FOLKS YOU JUST CANNOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP on how IGNORANT tinydavid wants to continue to be! 
LMBO! 
LIKEWISE the story parallels the Genesis flood account in its theme of YHWH's justified anger (DEATH!) provoked by man's sin but tinydavid is now claiming they are all out in the ocean swimming around, sucking in large amounts of sea LEVEL (the earth is FLAT!) water and are also suffering 'eternal torment' in that judgment that never ends!!!??? 
FOLKS YOU JUST CANNOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP on how IGNORANT tinydavid wants to continue to 
