Thread: FlatEarthTeddyBug claims I haven’t proven his false ideas wrong. The true is I have and others have. Note the following exchange. The TeddyBug claims that “God keeps him sinless and perfect” the TeddyBug often pulls scripture out of context to support his false claims of perfectionism. Please read the TeddyBug quotes and the refutations that follow.
FlatEarthTeddyBug claims I haven’t proven his false ideas wrong. The true is I have and others have. Note the following exchange. The TeddyBug claims that “God keeps him sinless and perfect” the TeddyBug often pulls scripture out of context to support his false claims of perfectionism. Please read the TeddyBug quotes and the refutations that follow.
Posted : 22 Apr, 2022 01:16 PM
Note the TeddyBug Talk as follows:
QUOTE the TeddyBug:
“tinyfaithdavid makes the >>>assumption<<< that the 'The MASTERs Prayer' was addressing everyone would continue to sin, when the TRUTH IS, IF you should elect to go back to sinning (DENY HEAVENS POWER) then YES you need to confess sin! tinyfaithdavid >>>assumption<<< contradicts the MASTERS very own words - be PERFECT even as my Father in heaven is PERFECT and so according to tinyfaithdavid He LIED to us and or perhaps TEASED us what is not available to us, when we cannot have this POWER from FATHER YHWH and this side of heaven just like the Messiah did when He walked the earth! Absurdity in contradictions of the TRUE righteousness by FAITH message from the Bible, that WHEN we were sinners at one point in our lives (ALL HAVE SINNED AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST!), then for tinyfaithdavid to claim we >will< keep sinning this side of heaven???????????????????????????????????????? Just because he LOVES to sin! But the Bible of course disagrees with and exposes tinyfaithdavid ERROR (and his continual sins!) in his taking the CONTEXT of the Bible - OUT OF CONTEXT! So what does he do about verses like this then
END QUOTE TEDDYBUG TALK
The following are verses the TeddyBug uses outa context to “prove” his point.
1 John 3:9 (KJV) - Whosoever is >>>born of (Father) YHWH doth not commit sin;<<< for His seed remaineth in him, and he cannot sin, because he is born of YHWH.
1 John 3:9 (ASV) - Whosoever is >>>begotten of YHWH (the Father!) doeth no sin<<<, because his seed abideth in Him: and he >>>cannot sin<<<, because he is begotten of YHWH.
1 John 3:9 (CSB) - Everyone who has >>>been born of God does not sin<<<, because his seed remains in him; he is >>>not able to sin<<<, because he has been born of God.
1 John 3:9 (CJB) - >>>No one who has YHWH as his Father keeps on sinning<<<, because the seed planted by YHWH remains in him. That is, he >>>cannot continue sinning<<<, because he has YHWH as his Father.
1 John 3:9 (CEV) - YHWH’s (the Father's) children >>>cannot keep on being sinful<<<. His life-giving >>>POWER<<< lives in them and makes them his children, >>>so that they cannot keep on sinning<<<.
Obviously tinyfaithdavid (thus his name) has very little 'faith' in the POWER Of YHWH that kept His Son, His own WORD in the likeness of sinful flesh from sinning! Right?
END TEDDYBUG ABUSE OF SCRIPTURE
Ok now for REFUTING the TeddyBug:
Allen from PuritanBoard:
I suppose that this person only thinks a Christian may reach this point in this life, not necessarily? 1 John 1:8 proves that no one is sinless, not even Christians.
It is Satan's lie that suggests otherwise, and this is a common ruse of his--to camouflage his own words under God's Word, see Mt. 4:6. Jesus refuted Satan in that instance (v. 7) by relying on the non-contradictory nature of Scripture itself. God cannot lie (Heb. 6:18). Therefore, it is the duty of Christians to harmonize the various portions of Scripture. Only a forced reading creates irreconcilable conflicts, to affirm which is itelf sinful. Therefore, the position that the Bible could teach that a Christian may achieve sinlessness is itself sinful, and the position self-refutes.
1 Jn. 5:18 follows hard after v. 16-17 that speak of a "brother" sinning, but not unto death. What does that mean, if not that a Christian can sin? Exactly.
1 Jn. 3:8 uses a present active participle (one doing sin), v. 9 the present active indicative (he is sinning). The tense itself will prove nothing, except that it is the one tense that is ideal to convey the idea of "practicing" in an ongoing, habitual manner.
An aorist verb would be ideal to convey the idea that any one act of sin demonstrates a non-Christian heart. But that is not found. Indeed, the very idea goes against the whole of Scripture. Was Peter sinning in separating himself from the Gentiles (as Paul relates it in Gal. 2:11-13)? Of course he was. Was he unsaved at that point? Nonsense. So, Christians can and do sin.
So we are back to 1 John 1:8. John uses the "we" constantly. He is speaking to the gathered covenant community of proessing believers. He includes himself in his own admonitions. Perseverance in godliness is the only way to assurance of salvation. This is as true for an apostle as for a convert. If you don't strive against sin, you must be dead--spiritually or physically (Heb. 12:4). And if you are perfect at such striving, then you must be in heaven already (1 Cor. 9:27).
FlatEarthTeddyBug claims I haven’t proven his false ideas wrong. The true is I have and others have. Note the following exchange. The TeddyBug claims that “God keeps him sinless and perfect” the TeddyBug often pulls scripture out of context to support his false claims of perfectionism. Please read the TeddyBug quotes and the refutations that follow.
Posted : 22 Apr, 2022 02:24 PM
absolutely bro david well documented ❗❗ 🙂💯😢
👨⚖️ teddy bugs is guilty as charged as well as some other offenses too
he has said repeatedly said that the trinity is a pagan concept as well as the seventh-day sabbath must be kept or christians will pay for it on the day of judgment
FlatEarthTeddyBug claims I haven’t proven his false ideas wrong. The true is I have and others have. Note the following exchange. The TeddyBug claims that “God keeps him sinless and perfect” the TeddyBug often pulls scripture out of context to support his false claims of perfectionism. Please read the TeddyBug quotes and the refutations that follow.
Posted : 22 Apr, 2022 03:20 PM
False teachers and heretics like FlatEarthTeddyBug need to be refuted as often as possible so that other people don’t fall for the same kind of error
FlatEarthTeddyBug claims I haven’t proven his false ideas wrong. The true is I have and others have. Note the following exchange. The TeddyBug claims that “God keeps him sinless and perfect” the TeddyBug often pulls scripture out of context to support his false claims of perfectionism. Please read the TeddyBug quotes and the refutations that follow.
Posted : 23 Apr, 2022 12:01 AM
tinyfaithdavid! You are sooooo LAZY to do a Bible study on your own, so you copy and paste!? We have had the study of 1 John 1:8 and you claim John is contradicting what he clearly says in 1 John 3:9?????????????????? REALLY???????? Just look who misunderstands 1 John 1:8 and your false teacher 'Allen' that claims there is no POWER from heaven to keep saints from sinning, let alone you FAIL to give the glory to Father YHWH that can deliver you from satan's power!? You know the verse - Greater is He (YHWH) in heaven than he (satan) is of this world (1 John 4:4!)!
Note what your 'god' 'Allen from PuritanBoard' says - QUOTE: ' I suppose that this person only thinks a Christian may reach this point in this life, not necessarily? 1 John 1:8 proves that no one is sinless, >>>not even Christians<<<.' end quote
Lets look at what you claim there are two John's writing the same book and arguing with himself??? LOL!
1 John 1:8 (NIV) - 'If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.'
1 John 3:9 (CEV) - 'YHWH’s (the Father's) children >>>cannot keep on being sinful<<<. His life-giving >>>POWER<<< lives in them and makes them his children, >>>so that they cannot keep on sinning<<<.'
So why don't you tell us readers how John could make such a huge mistake according to your 'god' Allen that is certainly NOT a 'puritan' when it comes to understanding Scripture and its CONTEXT! Like I told you before, MANY TIMES in other threads, John is writing about those who claim they have NEVER nor EVER have sinned in their lives in the past, said in 1 John 1:8 and when they claim they have NEVER sinned, then they make Father YHWH out to be a LIAR because He said ALL HAVE SINNED at some point in there lives!!! GEESH! You have a HUGE problem if you claim no Christian can get victory over sin on earth??? Your toast in the one day made lake of fire because the Bible says come shortly before His second coming - he/she that is filthy (continual sinner) let him/her be filthy (continual sinner) still and he/she that is righteous (sinless) let him/her be righteous (sinless) still. GEESH! Can you even read Bible context dude??? Did you notice your satanic 'god' that you copy and paste from 'Allen' the UNPURE leaves out the many verses that prove him wrong!!!???
Lets look at some more CONTEXT, shall we readers?
1 John 2:29 (NIV) - 'If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him.'
1 John 3:4 (NIV) - 'Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.'
So indoctrinated tinyfaithdavid, does not John make it clear that ANYONE that sins, is breaking Torah Law (like the 7th day Sabbath for one example) and is therefore LAWLESS!!!??? Right? So are you claiming its ok to keep breaking YHWH's Torah Law dude and its just going to keep on happening by your LACK of FAITH??? When does it end according to your GLOBE infested head by satan???
John goes on to say - 1 John 3:6 (NIV) - '>>>No one who lives in Him (YHWH) keeps on sinning<<<. No one who continues to sin has either seen Him or known Him.'
GEESH do you look like a FOOL now tinyfaithdavid by your LACK OF FAITH IN THE POWER OF YHWH! Right? Clearly John says - No one who lives in Him (Father YHWH!!!) keeps on sinning!!! Is that NOT clear enough for you, you WICKED continual sinner???
1 John 3:8 (NIV) - 'The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of YHWH appeared was to destroy the devil’s work.
So you claim to keep on sinning, right tinyfaithdavid? So satan has victory over you because you have claimed before you keep running stop signs you said! Right? You cannot get victory over running stop signs yet tinyfaithdavid? Father YHWH can 'destroy the devil’s work' in you or don't you have FAITH enough in the POWER of YHWH to do that in you tinyfaithdavid? That is SAD, very SAD you claim to be a 'christian' but DENY THE POWER to have victory over sin!? GEESH!
Father YHWH has given His set apart Holy Spirit to those that keepeth his commandments (including the 7th Day Sabbath!) and He dwells in them and they in Him!
1 John 3:24 (NIV) - 'The one who keeps YHWH’s commands lives in him, and He in them. And this is how we know that He lives in us: We know it by the Holy Spirit He gave us.'
So just what is your problem tinyfaithdavid??? Ahhhhhh thus your name 'tinyfaithdavid' says it all, right???
Note 1 John 5:4 (NIV) - 'for everyone >>>born of YHWH overcomes the world.<<< This is the >>>victory<<< that has overcome the world, even >>>our faith.<<<'
Goes along with 1 John 3:9 (NIV) - 'No one who is >>>born of YHWH will continue to sin<<<, because YHWH’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of YHWH.'
Soooooooo how much clearer does Scripture and John in example here have to be to get into your indoctrinated globe head tinyfaithdavid???? And that is ONLY the book of 1 John, let alone the rest of the Bible!? So what did you prove about me being wrong??? NOTHING, right? FAILURE once again on your part! GEESH what a FOOL!
FlatEarthTeddyBug claims I haven’t proven his false ideas wrong. The true is I have and others have. Note the following exchange. The TeddyBug claims that “God keeps him sinless and perfect” the TeddyBug often pulls scripture out of context to support his false claims of perfectionism. Please read the TeddyBug quotes and the refutations that follow.
Posted : 23 Apr, 2022 02:47 AM
😲😲⚠️⚠️ WOW ❗❗ see that dear people of God ❓❓ teddy bugs commits blasphemy by declaring himself to be in the state of sinless perfectionism
1 John 1:10, CSB: If we say, "We have not sinned," we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
What does 1 John 1:10 mean ❓❓
This verse offers the fifth and final conditional ("if") statement in this passage. Sticking to the positive / negative pattern, this one is negative. Verse 8 stated that those who claim to have no sin—presently—are deceived (1 John 1:8). Verse 10 includes prior sins, using the phrase "have not." This verse adds two negative traits of those who claim to be without sin. First, it directly contradicts the word of God, which is the same as calling God a liar. Then, as now, this was considered a great blasphemy.
Second, this claim implies that the truth of the gospel is not in such a person. In other words, a person who claims to be without sin, at present, is not speaking the truth. 💡💡💡💡💡💡a person who claims to have never sinned not only speaks a lie, but directly contradicts the gospel. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ ONLY JESUS IS SINLESS (Hebrews 4:15). Even most unbelievers acknowledge that they have fallen short of whatever moral code they believe in. 👉👉👉👉👉👉👉 only a person who is deeply deceived would make the claim of being without any sin 😉😉
FlatEarthTeddyBug claims I haven’t proven his false ideas wrong. The true is I have and others have. Note the following exchange. The TeddyBug claims that “God keeps him sinless and perfect” the TeddyBug often pulls scripture out of context to support his false claims of perfectionism. Please read the TeddyBug quotes and the refutations that follow.
Posted : 23 Apr, 2022 06:39 AM
Hugs needs Biblical enlightenment.
He is out in left field with his sinless perfectionism !
FlatEarthTeddyBug claims I haven’t proven his false ideas wrong. The true is I have and others have. Note the following exchange. The TeddyBug claims that “God keeps him sinless and perfect” the TeddyBug often pulls scripture out of context to support his false claims of perfectionism. Please read the TeddyBug quotes and the refutations that follow.
Posted : 23 Apr, 2022 09:02 AM
FlatEarthTeddyBug, your posts reveal and PROVE your life of sin is ongoing—-I rest my case.
Just look who misunderstands 1 John 1:8 and your false teacher 'Allen' that claims there is no POWER from heaven to keep saints from sinning, let alone you FAIL to give the glory to Father YHWH that can deliver you from satan's power!? 
You know the verse - Greater is He (YHWH) in heaven than he (satan) is of this world (1 John 4:4!)!
LOL! 
Like I told you before, MANY TIMES in other threads, John is writing about those who claim they have NEVER nor EVER have sinned in their lives in the past, said in 1 John 1:8 and when they claim they have NEVER sinned, then they make Father YHWH out to be a LIAR because He said ALL HAVE SINNED at some point in there lives!!! 
GEESH! 
You have a HUGE problem if you claim no Christian can get victory over sin on earth??? 
When does it end according to your GLOBE infested head by satan??? 
The reason the Son of YHWH appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 
Father YHWH can 'destroy the devil’s work' in you or don't you have FAITH enough in the POWER of YHWH to do that in you tinyfaithdavid? 
So what did you prove about me being wrong??? 
NOTHING, right? 
GEESH what a FOOL! 
