Thread: π€π€ dear christian brothers and sisters while I'm up can I get you some physically destructive βοΈ hailstones ββ-- ciao post tribulation position ππ
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π€π€ dear christian brothers and sisters while I'm up can I get you some physically destructive βοΈ hailstones ββ-- ciao post tribulation position ππ
Posted : 27 Mar, 2022 12:43 PM
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the whole point of this exercise is to destroy the lofty speculation that some continue to believe that true Christians will be the recipients of God's wrath during the tribulation hence lending credence to the post-tribulation position -- but alas flawed logic and especially flawed theology and eschatology fall flat on their face like the philistine God dagon in 1 Samuel 5 :1 case in point when one researches the bible they find that God hurling down physical yes physical hailstones is a judgment rendered upon the wicked not a ( pardon my sarcasm ) reward for the righteous ββ
Judgment Great tribulation
revelation 16:21
And huge hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, *came down from heaven upon men; and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail, because its plague *was extremely severe.
Plague Hail
Exodus 9:18-34
"Behold, about this time tomorrow, I will send a very heavy hail, such as has not been seen in Egypt from the day it was founded until now
Hail destroy the army of the amorites
Joshua 10:11
As they fled from before Israel, while they were at the descent of Beth-horon, the Lord threw large stones from heaven on them as far as Azekah, and they died; there were more who died from the hailstones than those
Judgment Great tribulation
Revelation 8:7
The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down on the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up
The seventh and final bowl judgment brings not only a devastating worldwide earthquake but also a crippling hailstorm. Each hailstone weighed about 100 pounds and these falling monstrosities pummeled people.
π¨βπthe heaviest recorded hailstone recorded in the United States weighed just under two pounds. That storm fell on South Dakota in 2010. Damage from such a storm is devastating, and incredibly dangerous for any living thing caught outside. One can only imagine what injuries will occur when the seventh bowl judgment brings hailstones many times larger than anything yet seen on earth.
πͺοΈπͺοΈIsaiah 30:30 associates hailstones with God's judgment. Ezekiel 13:13 also associates hailstones with His wrath, stating, "Therefore thus says the LORD GOD: I will make a stormy wind break out in my wrath, and there shall be a deluge of rain in my anger, and great hailstones in wrath to make a full end." The seventh plague in Egypt in the time of Moses was enormous, unprecedented hail that "struck down everything that was in the field in all the land of Egypt, both man and beast" (Exodus 9:25). Nevertheless, when the storm ended, Pharaoh hardened his heart and would not release the Hebrews from their slavery in Egypt (Exodus 9:34). Like Pharaoh, people struck by the 100-pound hail in the great tribulation period will refuse to repent. Instead, they curse God because of the hail. Once again, the human heart is seen as callous and desperately wicked
ππ now doesn't it certainly seems silly to continue with the false belief that Christians will endure the tribulation ββ the pre-trip rapture pardon the pun simply holds more weight to it ππ―π
π€π€ dear christian brothers and sisters while I'm up can I get you some physically destructive βοΈ hailstones ββ-- ciao post tribulation position ππ
Posted : 27 Mar, 2022 01:48 PM
revelation 16:21
And huge hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, *came down from heaven upon men; and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail, because its plague *was extremely severe.
THE WRATH OF GOD HAPPENS ON THE ==>LAST DAY<== AFTER THE GREAT TRIB. THE SAINTS WILL BE RAPTURED ON THE LAST DAY BEFORE THE WRATH IS POURED OUT ON THE UNSAVED.
RE 16:1 ====>HAPPENS ON THE LAST DAY<===AFTER THE GREAT TRIB.
π€π€ dear christian brothers and sisters while I'm up can I get you some physically destructive βοΈ hailstones ββ-- ciao post tribulation position ππ
Posted : 27 Mar, 2022 02:58 PM
Dom thanks for your option but unfounded opinions hardly hold up well even in a court of law where facts matter.
π€π€ dear christian brothers and sisters while I'm up can I get you some physically destructive βοΈ hailstones ββ-- ciao post tribulation position ππ
Posted : 27 Mar, 2022 03:06 PM
mmmmm Halo Harry's Avon lady no ββππ
It's not the last day God pours out his wrath on those who accept the mark of the beast halfway through the tribulation
Revelation 16:2
The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly, festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image
π€π€ dear christian brothers and sisters while I'm up can I get you some physically destructive βοΈ hailstones ββ-- ciao post tribulation position ππ
Posted : 28 Mar, 2022 04:56 PM
The seventh bowl and the seventh trumpet happen on the last day.
"And the seventh angel poured out his vial [bowl] into the air...and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth...and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his WRATH. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found" (16:17-20).
Jesus said, "Immediately after the tribulation...they shall see the Son of man coming...And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect..." (Mt. 24:29-31). John wrote, "And the seventh angel sounded [the seventh and last trumpet]...and thy WRATH is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants..." (Rev. 11:15, 18). The last trumpet is sounded on the last day when Jesus comes back.
π€π€ dear christian brothers and sisters while I'm up can I get you some physically destructive βοΈ hailstones ββ-- ciao post tribulation position ππ
Posted : 28 Mar, 2022 05:35 PM
Dom _64
let me straighten it out for ya
Second Coming Of Christ
Matthew 24:27, 29 teach us that verse 30 describes Christβs second coming.
And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. Matthew 24:30-31 (NASB)
In fact, Jesus makes two very important statements that help us understand He is referring to the Second Coming of Christ. First, He says that the world will mourn when they see Him in the clouds. This event is described in Zechariah 12:12. ππ Christians will not be mourning at the rapture, but people will be mourning when they see Christ coming at the battle of Armageddon. Second, Christ says that the Son of Man will come on the clouds with power and great glory. Zechariah 14:1-6 describes His coming at the battle of Armageddon and He does come in great power, splitting the Mount of Olives and defeating the nations of the world.
ππ So you see Dom_64 it's two parter it makes no sense that Christians would mourn @ the return of Christ