Author	Thread: Are you still blaspheming John the Baptist?
Dom_64 View Profile History	Are you still blaspheming John the Baptist? Posted : 27 Mar, 2022 10:14 AM Thomas doubted, Christians sometimes struggle with their faith but John the Baptist NEVER doubted who Jesus was. I myself(John) have SEEN, and have TESTIFIED that THIS IS THE SON OF GOD" (Jn. 1:31-34). So who was it that actually doubted in this account of Luke 7:18-23 It was the "certain two" disciples who were doubting that Jesus was the coming One, NOT John. After many of John's disciples heard the report(vs17) of the miracles of Jesus, including raising the dead,(and reported them to John) John knowing that a "certain two" of his disciples were still not believing even though he told them that he had seen the Holy Spirit descend on Jesus. So John, in his wisdom, sent these doubting disciples to find out for themselves by asking Jesus directly the question: “Are You the Coming One, or are we(John's two doubting disciples) to look for another? At the hour they came to Jesus, He was in the process of performing miracles in their presence. At that very hour He(Jesus) cured many people of diseases and afflictions and evil spirits; and He gave sight to many who were blind.(vs21) These two doubters SAW the miracles of Jesus in the physical world just as John SAW the Holy Spirit descending down on Jesus confirming to John without a shadow of a doubt that Jesus was the Messiah just as God had told him. I did not recognize Him, but He [God the Father] who sent me(John) to baptize in water SAID TO ME, 'Upon whom you SEE the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, this is the One who baptizes with the Holy Spirit. 'John 1:33 Jesus did not directly tell these two disciples He was the Messiah but allowed them to observe the miracles so they would believe. In order to encourage John that his mission was accomplished Jesus sent these two back to John to report to him the miracles they had SEEN and HEARD. ,...“Go and report to John what you have SEEN and HEARD:...(vs22), i.e. miracles. In the following verses Jesus begins to praise John as a prophet, as the messenger of God and the greatest among those born of women. Jesus never praises doubters! Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Are you still blaspheming John the Baptist? Posted : 27 Mar, 2022 02:54 PM AHHH the length one will go in order to skirt the literal meaning of scripture. Case in point: DOM has seen fit to invent a couple of doubting disciples and an extra-biblical type of John the Baptist. She wedges them into the biblical narrative to support her theory. Even for the causal reader, the Biblical text about John the Baptist is clearly written and easy to understand—that is, UNLESS one desires to read INTO the text a personal “praxis”. In which case, one conveniently tweaks a given passage forcing it to fit his/her subjective creed Post Reply
Dom_64 View Profile History	Are you still blaspheming John the Baptist? Posted : 27 Mar, 2022 04:06 PM You couldn't refute the truth? Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Are you still blaspheming John the Baptist? Posted : 27 Mar, 2022 06:14 PM What truth? Post Reply
Dom_64 View Profile History	Are you still blaspheming John the Baptist? Posted : 28 Mar, 2022 12:50 PM It is all of you who have conveniently tweaked a given passage forcing it to fit your subjective creed. Anyone with a little bit of discernment can plainly see that there isn't even a hint in that passage that John doubted Jesus was the Messiah. Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Are you still blaspheming John the Baptist? Posted : 28 Mar, 2022 02:06 PM John said, "are you the one who is come, or shall we look for another? While John was in prison confinement, he had doubts. Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Are you still blaspheming John the Baptist? Posted : 28 Mar, 2022 02:34 PM John the son of Elizabeth was Jesus' cousin through Mary Luke 1:36 Post Reply
Dom_64 View Profile History	Are you still blaspheming John the Baptist? Posted : 28 Mar, 2022 04:10 PM Moonlight:John said, "are you the one who is come, or shall we look for another? While John was in prison confinement, he had doubts. Truth: That was the question John gave his two doubting disciples to ask for themselves. John had zero doubts! Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Are you still blaspheming John the Baptist? Posted : 28 Mar, 2022 06:55 PM Dom, let me help. John clearly sent the two with the question posed by John. You can’t miss it. Well, let me rephrase that—no one else has missed it Post Reply