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Admin	🤪🙄 when leading new converts to God ( Acts 4:12 ) make sure they don't say “Hail Zeus" Posted : 18 Mar, 2022 09:11 PM there are several strange and misleading teachings that make their rounds concerning the name of God and of Jesus Christ; one such false doctrine is the idea that the name of Jesus actually means “Hail, Zeus.” Promoters of this bizarre concept claim that anyone who uses the name Jesus is offering praise to a false god and is not saved. They go so far as to say a person must use only the Hebrew name for Jesus, since there is only one name by which we can be saved (Acts 4:12). First, we will explain the “Jesus-means-hail-Zeus” theory, the best we can. Then we will look at the truth of the matter from a biblical perspective. Those who teach that the name Jesus means “Hail, Zeus” usually start with the name of God, YAH (see Isaiah 26:4, NET). From that name of God, they take the Messiah’s name to be YAHSHUA, which they say means “YAH Is Salvation.” They contend that is the name used by the apostles and by the Messiah Himself; however, after the apostles were dead and gone, the Roman Church took over Christianity. In order to make their brand of religion more palatable to the pagans, the Roman leaders changed the name of the Messiah into a Greek/Latin hybrid, Iésous, which (supposedly) means “Hail, Zeus.” Since Zeus (or Jupiter) was the chief god in the Greco-Roman pantheon, the pagans had little trouble accepting this new demigod. By changing the Savior’s name, Christianity had been effectively stripped of its Hebrew roots, and the melding with paganism was a success. The Greeks’ savior could still be Zeus. In time, the word Iésous was further corrupted into Jesus in English. As “proof” for their conspiracy theory that Jesus means “Hail, Zeus,” advocates point to the fact that the second syllable of Jesus (-sus) sounds similar to the name of the chief Greek god. Especially when Jesus is pronounced in Spanish, it becomes “evident” that people are “actually” saying “Hey, Zeus.” Added to these “proofs” is the fact that ancient sculptures of Zeus show him with a beard—just like modern-day pictures of Jesus! What can we say to such far-fetched nonsense? First, not everyone who has a beard is trying to take the place of Jesus. Second, just because a certain word or word part sounds like another word is no proof of commonality. Basing theories of word origin on pronunciation is preposterous. Humorous sounds exactly like humerus, but there’s nothing particularly funny about the bone that goes from the shoulder to the elbow. Third, the Messiah’s Hebrew name is Yeshua, not Yahshua—the latter being a fabrication in order to make the name sound more like YAH. Fourth, the Hebrew name Yeshua translates into Greek as Iésous. This is the name that the angel Gabriel commanded Joseph to name Mary’s child: “You are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins” (Matthew 1:21). The name Jesus is a simply a Greek form of Joshua, a common name among Jews. The same verse also alludes to the meaning of the name: the Lord was to be named Jesus because “he will save his people from their sins.” The name Jesus means “The Lord Saves” or “The Lord Is Salvation.” Whether you spell it Jesus or Joshua or Yeshua, the meaning stays the same, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with Zeus. Names can and do translate. Changing a name from one language to another does not change the meaning of the name, nor does it change the character or identity of the person. Elizabeth becomes Elixabete, Isabella, Zsoka, or Eliska, depending on the language. But she remains the same girl. A man named Stephen can be called Stephanos, Stefan, Estevao, Teppo, or Estebe, depending on where in the world he is. But he is the same person, regardless of what we call him. Similarly, Jesus and Yeshua refer to the same Person—and it’s not Zeus. We use the name Jesus, an Anglicized transliteration of the Greek, because Greek is the language that Matthew and Mark and Luke and John wrote their Gospels in and because English is the language we speak. The best translation of Iésous into modern English is “Jesus.” Part of Timothy’s work as a pastor was to “command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer or to devote themselves to myths” (1 Timothy 1:3–4). Paul was concerned that “such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God’s work—which is by faith” (verse 4). Conspiracy theories and myths regarding the etymology of Jesus’ name are distractions from the true work of God. We should not pay any heed to claims that the name Jesus means anything but what Scripture says it means: “The Lord Saves Post Reply
Ohiograce^ View Profile History	🤪🙄 when leading new converts to God ( Acts 4:12 ) make sure they don't say “Hail Zeus" Posted : 19 Mar, 2022 05:08 AM Thanks for your post. Some if those people get bent out of shape over this. Hebrew doesn't have a j sound. Greek doesn't have a j sound. As you indicated, yahshua or yeshua goes into greek as iesous. Those folks who despise the name of Jesus should pronounce jerusalem as yerushalayim. Greek doesn't have the sh sound either. Of course some of them call saul/paul "rabbi shaul." Do they want everyone to speak hebrew? Should we call Him Elohim or Adonai or Yahweh? It's like the king james only movement. It's only the 1611 version. For the people hung up on the pronunciation, it has to be hebrew. Really, they want to go back to the law of moses, or is that moishe🤪 Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	🤪🙄 when leading new converts to God ( Acts 4:12 ) make sure they don't say “Hail Zeus" Posted : 19 Mar, 2022 05:50 AM It's actually sad they , Hebrew roots movement folks are so ignorant in trying to teach the Bible. Post Reply
Quiznos View Profile History	🤪🙄 when leading new converts to God ( Acts 4:12 ) make sure they don't say “Hail Zeus" Posted : 19 Mar, 2022 10:04 AM I would like to know why the 'christians' are so afraid of a person that wants to know what he believes about the Messiah Yashua. I do not want to be a 'christian', as most if them have no idea who they believe the Messiah is, nor do they kmow what He is like according to the Scriptures. Most of the 'christians' do not understand anything more than what they have been told by the hirelings called 'pastors'.Where is the Holy Spirit LEADING the peoe into all truth about Messiah. Post Reply
View Profile History	🤪🙄 when leading new converts to God ( Acts 4:12 ) make sure they don't say “Hail Zeus" Posted : 19 Mar, 2022 10:16 AM Q 🤔 How do you know most Christians after all that covers millions and millions of them ❓❓ Secondly knowing Jesus Christ Hebrew name is not a prerequisite for getting to know him after all John 5:39 says you read the scriptures and you find me in them we can do that in English as well as any other language too Third Ephesians 4:11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers 🤔 It's Jesus Christ himself that ordains men to become pastors and teachers -- aren't you committing a form of blasphemy against God himself by denigrating pastors and teachers publicly ❓❓ Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	🤪🙄 when leading new converts to God ( Acts 4:12 ) make sure they don't say “Hail Zeus" Posted : 19 Mar, 2022 11:18 AM Excellent posts RSVP‼️‼️ The Quiz continues to illustrate how one’s devotion to a man-made sect, rather than the word of God, can easily distort one’s biblical understanding Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	🤪🙄 when leading new converts to God ( Acts 4:12 ) make sure they don't say “Hail Zeus" Posted : 19 Mar, 2022 11:46 AM Quiznos A Believers is a saved person who can study the Bible for themselves. A pastor doesn't have to teach you everything. Where do you get all your ignorance from? Your small study group? Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	🤪🙄 when leading new converts to God ( Acts 4:12 ) make sure they don't say “Hail Zeus" Posted : 23 Mar, 2022 01:04 AM CULTISTrsvp says - knowing Jesus Christ Hebrew name is not a prerequisite for getting to know him' LOL! So you go to another country and the person of that language says there name and you give them a GREEK name instead!!!??? Now that is what CULTISTrsvp says is 'getting to know' them and respecting them, let alone calling UPON THEIR NAME!!! Finally CULTISTrsvp says to Quiz- 'It's Christ himself that ordains men to become pastors and teachers -- aren't you committing a form of blasphemy against God himself by denigrating pastors and teachers publicly' ? ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS that CULTISTYrsvp ASSUMES todays CULT 'pastors and teachers' are ORDAINED?????????????????? WHAT A CULTISED IDIOT! Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	🤪🙄 when leading new converts to God ( Acts 4:12 ) make sure they don't say “Hail Zeus" Posted : 23 Mar, 2022 01:20 AM So CULTISTrsvp posts - 'Ephesians 4:11 So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the >>>evangelists, the pastors and teachers<<<' And the self reasoning and biased IDIOT tinydavid posts - Excellent posts RSVP‼️‼️ The Quiz continues to illustrate how one’s >>>>devotion to a man-made sect<<<, rather than the word of God, can easily distort one’s biblical understanding' There you have it readers, soundly understood between the ears of tinydavid's empty sphere head in the reasoning frontal lobe! Claiming Quiz has 'devotion to a man-made sect' and therefore CULTISTrsvp 'devotion to a man-made sect' in his interpretation of what are true 'evangelists, pastors and teachers' and therefore its impossible for them to 'easily distort one’s biblical understanding' of Scripture!!! LOL! For instance a CULT 'evangelists, pastors and teachers' would tell you that the 7th day Sabbath has been done away with and they would then 'distort one’s biblical understanding' of Scripture!!! Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	🤪🙄 when leading new converts to God ( Acts 4:12 ) make sure they don't say “Hail Zeus" Posted : 23 Mar, 2022 01:33 AM Quiz posts - 'I would like to know why the 'christians' are so afraid of a person that wants to know what he believes about the Messiah Yashua.' ??? Its rather simpl Quiz, CULT infested IDIOTS like CULTISTrsvp and tinydavid HATE hearing TRUTH and it SCARES THEM to death that they have been LIED too and exposed as accessories to the crime in same parroted teaching! So they feel better when they LIE about others creating a distraction like from their father the devil the king of liars! Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	🤪🙄 when leading new converts to God ( Acts 4:12 ) make sure they don't say “Hail Zeus" Posted : 24 Mar, 2022 07:52 AM TeddyBug, why don’t you ask the Quiz why he hasn’t thanked you yet (all this time) for sticking up for him⁉️ I ALWAYS thank you for the posts you write because they always serve as evidence that helps make my case against your false teachings. So once again, TeddyBug, thanks😂🤣😇 Post Reply