Thread: 👨🍳 quiznos makes a pretty good 🥖 sub sandwich -- that's probably because they don't 🚫👎 add any HRM or sacred word movement cult seasonings 😉
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👨🍳 quiznos makes a pretty good 🥖 sub sandwich -- that's probably because they don't 🚫👎 add any HRM or sacred word movement cult seasonings 😉
Posted : 18 Mar, 2022 07:58 PM
🙄😳 just when you think it couldn't get any worse -- it does ❗❗
Posted : 18 Mar, 2022 07:18 PM
" @rsvp
The name of Messiah is YASHUA Ha Meshiach,not Jesus.
Read John 17verse11.
Holy Father, protect them by YOUR NAME, the Name YOU GAVE ME.
Now rsvp, what name is the Father, is it YAHOVA,or Jesus, remember Mary was told His name, and Mary was a Jew, not a Greek " -- Quiznos 🥖👎
proponents of “Hebrew Roots” often support their arguments with claims that they are returning to the “authentic traditions” of the first Jewish Christians. But is this really true?
tradition means what has been handed down. And the truth is that there is 😉😉 no tradition — no writings, no hymns, no inscriptions, no traditional teaching or custom — of our Lord being addressed as Yeshua, passed down by the earliest Christians or by anyone else at all, until the beginnings of the “Messianic” movement in the nineteenth century 🙄🙄
proponents argue that the name Yeshua is what the Apostles themselves would have called the Lord; and that might very well be true. But they left us again with 😉😉👉👉💡💡 no record, no tradition of it. Historians believe that Jesus and the Apostles probably spoke Aramaic as their primary language — not Hebrew
There are in fact Christians who have been speaking Aramaic for the past two thousand years, since the time of the Apostles, who have passed down the Christian faith in what can be called its native language: the Syriac Christians, whose liturgical language is essentially Aramaic as Jesus would have spoken it — but they pronounce the Lord’s name not “Yeshua,” but “Isho.” Yeshua was passed down by nobody at all, but invented from imagined traditions in modern times
👉👉contrary to arguments I am hearing increasingly from “Hebrew Roots” proponents, the name Jesus is not a late, syncretistic introduction by “Rome,” nor a “corruption” of the true Hebrew teaching, nor any other attempt to pull true Christians away from the “Hebrew Roots” of Christianity. When the Apostles and their associates wrote the New Testament Scriptures in Greek — under the guidance and inspiration of the Holy Spirit — they wrote His name as Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous). Every manuscript of every book of the New Testament attests to this
😳😳 does this mean that those from other nations other tongues who did not confess their sins to the exact name Yeshua are not saved ❓❓
Names of the Lord in Various Languages
LANGUAGE NAME TRANSLITERATION
Albanian Jezusi
Amharic ኢየሱስ Iyesus
Aramaic ܝܫܘܥ Isho
Arabic يسوع ʿĪsā
Aragonese Chésus
Bengali যিশু Jishu
Chinese 耶稣
Greek (Koine) Ἰησοῦς Iēsous
Greek (Modern) Ιησούς Iēsous
Hindi ईसा Jesu
Hungarian Jézus
Irish Gaelic Íosa
Italian Gesù
Korean 예수
Latin Iesus Jesus
Romanian Isus
Russian Иису́с Iisús
Church Slavonic Їисъ
Slovak Ježiš
Tagalog Hesus
Tamil இயேசு
Turkish İsa
Vietnamese Giê-su
Yiddish יעזוס Yezus
🙂💯👍 arguing that only “Yeshua,” or any other rendition of the name, is the correct and proper address for our Lord, denies the entire received Christian tradition, the handing down of the faith to every people as the Apostles and their spiritual descendants have done. Just as the Greek people received the name of the Lord as Ἰησοῦς, the English people received Him as Jesus, the Spanish as Jesús, and so forth
😳😳👎⚠️☠️ this is one of the many reasons why the Hebrew Roots movement as well as the secret word cult are so dangerous ❗❗
👨🍳 quiznos makes a pretty good 🥖 sub sandwich -- that's probably because they don't 🚫👎 add any HRM or sacred word movement cult seasonings 😉
Posted : 18 Mar, 2022 08:12 PM
@rsvp
John 17, did Messiah say the name of the Father was Jesus of Yahova, that is the question that needs to be answered as Messiah says that the Father and the Son are one, so then they share the same name.
Is Messiah the Prince of peace also known as Yahova Shalom. or Jesus shalom.
The names of the Father and Son should have been brought over to the Greek with any change, so that the people would not have forgotten His name(s), as most have.
👨🍳 quiznos makes a pretty good 🥖 sub sandwich -- that's probably because they don't 🚫👎 add any HRM or sacred word movement cult seasonings 😉
Posted : 19 Mar, 2022 10:41 AM
Excellent post and thought in properly calling His name! Like you I'm NOT a HRM, >>>unless<<< you claim I'm a FOLLOWER/>>> MOVEMENT/WORKS<<< toward the HEBREW Messiah Yah'shua that OBEYED the Torah Law PERFECTLY that >>>we<<< COULD NOT do at first when >>>we<<< was YET living in our sins without His POWER!
So really what is a HRM????? So what is Mooncakes proving??? NOTHING! Notice how DUMBFOUNDED these 3 'trinity' clowns and or 'gods' are in attempting to identify others as being one!!!! LOL!
Note the Bible is translated correctly only once (that I can find in the OT) when Father YHWH TELLS Moses His actual name 'I'am that I'am' which is YHWH without the vowels!
👨🍳 quiznos makes a pretty good 🥖 sub sandwich -- that's probably because they don't 🚫👎 add any HRM or sacred word movement cult seasonings 😉
Posted : 19 Mar, 2022 10:50 AM
Ooooh and Quiznos! CULTISTrsvp thinks just because all those countries ARE TOLD, BRAINWAHED to state the corruption of the word 'jesus' and or 'zeus' in 'various languages' then they must ALL be correct!!???
You see Quiznos, the old reliable false teacher and CULTISTrsvp goes the WIDE path to destruction (and so called 'church' history) and NOT the narrow path that very few find in truth, THE OLD TRUTH in the Bible to His actual name TO CALL UPON! Right?
👨🍳 quiznos makes a pretty good 🥖 sub sandwich -- that's probably because they don't 🚫👎 add any HRM or sacred word movement cult seasonings 😉
Posted : 19 Mar, 2022 11:06 AM
q " @rsvp
John 17, did Messiah say the name of the Father was Jesus of Yahova, that is the question that needs to be answered as Messiah says that the Father and the Son are one, so then they share the same name "
🤔 Oh gee I don't know q how about we take a look at it in the Greek shall we ❓❓
😉😉 Well first off q John 17 is not in Hebrew it's in you guessed it Greek ❗❗
John 17:1
Strong's Greek English Morphology
3778 [e] Ταῦτα
Tauta These things DPro-ANP
2980 [e] ἐλάλησεν
elalēsen spoke V-AIA-3S
2424 [e] Ἰησοῦς,
Iēsous Jesus, N-NMS
2532 [e] καὶ
kai and Conj
1869 [e] ἐπάρας
eparas having lifted up V-APA-NMS
3588 [e] τοὺς
tous the Art-AMP
3788 [e] ὀφθαλμοὺς
ophthalmous eyes N-AMP
846 [e] αὐτοῦ
autou of Him PPro-GM3S
1519 [e] εἰς
eis to Prep
3588 [e] τὸν
ton - Art-AMS
3772 [e] οὐρανὸν
ouranon heaven, N-AMS
3004 [e] εἶπεν
eipen He said, V-AIA-3S
3962 [e] Πάτερ,
Pater Father, N-VMS
2064 [e] ἐλήλυθεν
elēlythen has come V-RIA-3S
3588 [e] ἡ
hē the Art-NFS
5610 [e] ὥρα·
hōra hour; N-NFS
1392 [e] δόξασόν
doxason glorify V-AMA-2S
4771 [e] σου
sou Your PPro-G2S
3588 [e] τὸν
ton - Art-AMS
5207 [e] Υἱόν,
Huion Son, N-AMS
2443 [e] ἵνα
hina that Conj
3588 [e] ὁ
ho the Art-NMS
5207 [e] Υἱὸς
Huios Son N-NMS
1392 [e] δοξάσῃ
doxasē may glorify V-ASA-3S
4771 [e] σέ,
se You. PPro-A2S
🙂🙂 The son's name is huion and the father's name is pater
🤔🤔 why ❓ because they are too distinct persons in the trinity 😉😉
👨🍳 quiznos makes a pretty good 🥖 sub sandwich -- that's probably because they don't 🚫👎 add any HRM or sacred word movement cult seasonings 😉
Posted : 19 Mar, 2022 11:51 AM
Look you PAGAN ROMAN clown CULTISTrsvp, if you want to remain a IGNORANT GREEK and not an ADOPTED ISRAELITE and you do not want to be in the kingdom, to keep the Torha Law, then DIE in your sins dude!
Its really simple! ALL THE SAINTS go to the 'NEW JERUSALEM CITY' and NOT a new greek city you IDIOT!
CULTISTrsvp goes off on another topic and DESPERATELY tries to prove his 'trio/triads' of 'gods' and or 'persons' by stating TITLE translation names like - 'The son's name is huion and the father's name is pater' while also disrespecting them by not capitalizing Them - Father and Son!!! YICKS!
So why does he think that just because they have similar REAL names like YaHuWaH (with the vowels) and Yah'shua, they cannot be one and the same in PERSON??? The Bible is quite clear that Messiah Yah'shua COMES FROM THE FATHER that put His WORD into a virgin woman and made a Son that did NOT exist before! Its also OBVIOUS that Messiah Yah'shua is also the EVERLASTING FATHER prophesied to COME FROM THE FATHER by Isaiah in 9:6, let alone more understanding found in John chapter FOR MORE CONTEXT! GEESH, is this CULT clown an IDIOT or what?
So Father YHWH can MAKE another PART of Himself, His SPOKEN and WRITTEN WORD 'distinct' from Himself, that can also speak back to Himself like the baptism of that PART of Himself when the other two PARTS to Himself were present for a purpose!
So CULTISTrsvp, why did you leave out your third 'god' the 'spirit' according to your teaching anyway in your posted point and 'trio' equation! Isn't that disrespecting one of your gods/triad's/persons??? You sure do get your doctrine confusing to readers! BUT IT KEEPS US ALL LAUGHING AT YOU! THANKS for the chuckles dude!
👨🍳 quiznos makes a pretty good 🥖 sub sandwich -- that's probably because they don't 🚫👎 add any HRM or sacred word movement cult seasonings 😉
Posted : 19 Mar, 2022 12:00 PM
Folks you can’t make this stuff up‼️‼️‼️
The TeddyBug obviously can’t refute RSVP with proof so he writes a long incoherent post that merely reflects the opinions of the heretical sect he worships