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👩🏫 kindergarten 👶🍼 sunday school for teddy bugs -- back to the ABC's 123's
Posted : 6 Feb, 2022 03:46 AM
dear people of God by now it's no surprise that teddy bugs isn't capable of distinguishing between the figurative and literal language of the bible -- in fact it's rather comical 🤡 if it wasn't sad it would be funny 🎭
" Revelation 20:9 is where the judgment FIRE takes place outside the Holy City, right? Lets look at what Isaiah says about that 'dwelling place' and who 'dwells' there come judgment day, as well as what kind of judgment FIRE will be made there! OK?
Judgment fire made someday - Isaiah 33:14 'The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. >>>Who among us shall dwell (have everlasting life) with the devouring fire<<<? Who among us shall dwell (stay alive) with >>>everlasting burnings<<<? " -- teddy bugs
⚠️⚠️☠️ once again teddy bugs has edited God's holy word which is a big no no ❗❗
🙂💯👍 now let's give kindergartener teddy bugs a coloring book and some crayons 🖍️and see if we can straighten him out
“You have conceived chaff, you will give birth to stubble; My breath will consume you like a fire. 12 The peoples will be burned to lime, Like cut thorns which are burned in the fire. 13 You who are far away, hear what I have done; and you who are near, acknowledge My might. 14 Sinners in Zion are terrified; Trembling has seized the godless. Who among us can live with the consuming fire? Who among us can live with continual burning?” (Isaiah 33:11-14).
The context is the 14th year of Hezekiah’s reign. The Assyrians are threatening Jerusalem, and Isaiah turns to the theme of God’s judgment. To summarize the chapter, Isaiah says in verse 1, that when the destroyer (who is left unnamed) is finished destroying, he will be destroyed. As soon as he stops being treacherous, others will be treacherous against him. In v. 2, Isaiah offers a prayer of deliverance to God. In verses 3-4, inhabitants of Jerusalem take spoil from the enemy. In verses 5-6, the Lord is exalted. In verses 7-10, the enemy is in distress. In verses 11-12, it says that the enemy has conceived chaff and will give birth to stumble and God’s breath will consume them like fire the way cut thorns that are burned in the fire.
Isaiah 33:11-12
“You have conceived chaff. You will give birth to stubble; My breath will consume you like a fire. 12 The peoples will be burned to lime, like cut thorns which are burned in the fire,” (Isaiah 33:11-12).
In their search for verses that support the idea that the people cease to exist in the final judgment, conditionalists gravitate to Isaiah 33:11-12 with its language of people being “burned to lime, like cut thorns which are burned in the fire.” But, is this a literal description of their ultimate end, or is it the use of figurative language aimed at describing what will happen to the wicked? Contextually, we know that verse 11 is figurative because God says that they have “conceived chaff and given birth to stubble,” and that God’s breath will consume them like a fire (v. 11). Why then is the vivid imagery a literal description of their future nonexistence? 👉👉 It is quite a switch to jump that and assert that God is speaking about peoples’ future, nonexistence. It seems more likely that God is using the vivid, figurative imagery that people were then familiar with to describe the destruction of the wicked. To make this and an annihilationist interpretation is to go too far.
Isaiah 33:14
“Sinners in Zion are terrified. Trembling has seized the godless. Who among us can live with the consuming fire? Who among us can live with continual burning?” (Isaiah 33:14).
The questions found in verse 14 refer to what preceded it regarding the wicked. They will ask who can dwell in God’s consuming, continual fire. Isaiah answers, and in verse 15, he says that those who walk righteously will stand in God’s judgment. 💡💡💡💡💡💡This vivid imagery is reminiscent of God being described as a consuming fire (Deut. 4:24; 9:3). Living with consuming fire and continual burning would be the language of someone who is terrified, not the righteous who have confidence in God: “his refuge will be the impregnable rock…” (v. 16).
conclusion
the context of Isaiah 33 is the 14th year of Hezekiah’s reign. The Assyrians are threatening Jerusalem. Isaiah mentions the unnamed destroyer who will be destroyed (v. 2). He adopts figurative language when he says in verse 11, “You have conceived chaff. You will give birth to stumble. My breath will consume you like a fire.”💡💡💡💡💡💡 Such vivid, figurative imagery is not meant to describe literal, future nonexistence of the wicked. Instead, it is illustrating their fate. ❗❗God’s judgment will be upon them. For the conditionalist to assert that God is speaking of the ultimate nonexistence of the wicked is to read into the text. Furthermore, it is the wicked who in verse 14 who are asking who can dwell in God’s consuming, continual burning fire. They know they cannot. It is only the righteous (verse 16) who will stand. Though this chapter has language familiar to what conditionalists look for to support their position, it is not a proof text for the position 🙂🙂
👩🏫 kindergarten 👶🍼 sunday school for teddy bugs -- back to the ABC's 123's
Posted : 6 Feb, 2022 03:47 AM
PART 2️⃣
🙂😉 teddy bugs cites Revelation 20:9 is where the judgment FIRE takes place outside the Holy City, right? ------ all one has to do is go to revelation 20:10 for the answer
" And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the Lake of Fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night FOREVER and ever "
This is a very significant verse in support of eternal conscious torment
after all, doesn’t the text says they are tormented ❓❓ Yes, it does ❗❗The Greek word for torment basanos, βάσανος, in each of its 3 occurrences in the New Testament means some sort of continual suffering that is experienced by people (Matt. 4:24; Luke 16:23, 28). In no cases is the suffering a state of nonexistence or that leads to nonexistence
👩🏫 kindergarten 👶🍼 sunday school for teddy bugs -- back to the ABC's 123's
Posted : 6 Feb, 2022 09:24 AM
EXCELLENT POST RSVP‼️
The TeddyBug’s posts about hell, consist largely of psychological clinical denial. He continues to beg the question: WHY are false teachers, like the TeddyBug, so fearful of eternal torments⁉️⁉️
The answer is clear, false teachers deny what they subconsciously fear awaits them.
👩🏫 kindergarten 👶🍼 sunday school for teddy bugs -- back to the ABC's 123's
Posted : 6 Feb, 2022 09:38 AM
Notice readers how he tries to address everyone reading as 'dear people of' his PAGAN named 'god/gud/gawd' as if everyone worships his PAGAN named dieties! LOL! CULTISTrsvp cannot even get his CULT PAGAN 'doctrine' right and call them in plural because after all he claims there is THREE of them, his hollywood 3 musketeers! Talk about something for his 'coloring books' for the little INDOCTRINATED immature lad! So why does he keep disrespecting his other two deities he worships and keeps calling only 'one' in singular god/gud/gawd' then???
Note also readers he attempts to LINK his readers with the PAGAN worship of the SUN god BAAL on SUNday and claiming its a 'school' to learn from!!!??? REALLY??? ITS A CULT and
the worship of the SUN god BAAL and its so obvious when you study the history of the PAGAN PAPER calendar! So its no surprise then that CULTISTrsvp believes in his EGYPTIAN 'trinity/triads/3 gods/guds/gawds/3 'persons' also or any other description his 'church' CULT dreams up!
Now with that subtle AGENDA of his exposed, lets move onto his example of a dog chasing his tail, as CULTISTrsvp goes in circles (much like he claims his ball/sphere model spins at a
1000 mph on his delusional 'spinning/wobbling/tilting' earth at its equator! LOL! ), around and around he goes, keeps coming back to Isaiah 33:14 AGAIN AND AGAIN in his post ATTEMPTING to PROVE SOMETHING but proves NOTHING to claiming he has the answer to what is 'literal' and or 'figurative' in 'language'! Its quite evident when reading the entire chapter of Isaiah 33 that its very much 'figurative' as the Bible does many times but its hinting the FUTURE judgment then THAT IS BY FIRE, the future FINAL judgment FIRE that takes place outside the New Jerusalem City that is QUITE A >>>LITERIAL<<< event to those Bible study students that have DECERNMENT, no??? Nothing 'figurative' in 'language' about judgment day in a LITERAL FIRE that the Bible describes outside the Holy Jerusalem City that comes to the DESOLATE earth after a 1000 years in heaven (Rev. 21:10) that the saints >>>DWELL<<< in! Right?
Lets post the verse that CULTISTrsvp does not want you to see and is self explanatory in LITERAL description! ok? Let alone the CONTEXT in the rest of the Bible on the subject!
Revelation 20:9 'And they (the wicked) went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed (surround to attack) the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city (again Rev. 21:10) : and (JUDGMENT!) fire came down from Father YHWH out of heaven, and >>>devoured them<<<.'
When you DEVOUR/DESTROY something like a sandwich, does it exist afterward??? When the continual sinners were DESTROYED in the flood, were they only 'figuratively' destroyed and really didn't drown 'literally' to not exist??? Does CULTISTrsvp claim that's 'figurative' or 'literal' in description of existence??? Its seems CULTISTrsvp treats his Bible like a salad bar, choosing what's 'figurative' and 'literal' for his AGENDA/DIET in believing in his WORSE THAN HITLER 'gods.guds/gawds' that he 'serves' that just never let their subjects die in the one day made lake of fire outside the New Jerusalem City to become ASHES as the Bible says in its CONTEXT on the subject!!!?? Correct readers?
So CULTISTrsvp now claims that Revelation 20:10 gives a better answer than Revelation 20:9??? REALLY??? Actually it gives MORE TRUTH AND CONTEXT to WHO also is NOW
mentioned (THE DEVIL!) to what takes place outside the New Jerusalem City but once again CULTISTrsvp would have trouble discerning what is 'figurative' and what is 'literal' in description of the actual JUDGMENT EVENT of ETERNAL (not the torment but the) FIRE of the wicked to ASHES then!
Revelation 20:10 " And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the Lake of Fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night FOREVER and ever "
So what is 'FOREVER and ever' but the judgment which is DEATH >>>after<<< they suffer the TORMENT to PAY for their own sins, which is eventual DEATH (AGAIN Romans 6:23!), even for DAYS but NEVER 'eternal life in a fire' that CULTISTrsvp claims takes place for sinners and the devil! Right? The wages/payment for sin is DEATH, right? Did not the Messiah Yah'shua pay that price of death for sin??? And CULTISTrsvp implies Messiah Yah'shua came to pay the price of sin which is 'eternal torment' (you will NEVER find those two words used together in the Bible!) just like the cathoholics have the Messiah Yah'shua CONSTANTLY HANGING on their PAGAN SYMBOL of a 'cross', never dying but in constant TORMENT and a sacrifice ETERNALLY!!! Got it?
You see readers, CULTISTrsvp cannot see (discern) that just because Revelation 20:10 says the devil/satan/dragon is thrown/cast into the 'Lake of Fire' that the Bible must have contradictions because Revelation 20:9 says 'fire came down from Father YHWH out of heaven, and devoured them.' Right? CULTISTrsvp cannot distinguish between the 'figurative' of the devil/satan/dragon being 'thrown/cast' into the 'Lake of Fire' to actually LITERALLY FIRE RAINING DOWN ON THEM come judgment day outside the New Jerusalem City to become ASHES (Revelation 20:9)! Correct???
AGAIN I HAVE TO REPOST it here on the subject of JUDGMENT to ASHES because CULTISTrsvp ALWAYS starts another thread so that you cannot scroll up and read what I posted in previous threads, so he can HIDE the truth from you here! But not only that but so he can post a new thread to 'LOOK' like he (also can feed his PRIDE!) is coming off as an 'informed teacher' when all he is, is a copy and paste immature kindergarten lad that cannot do ANY study on his own, nor can he discern what CONTEXT is on any given subject!!!
Malachi 4:1,3
1. 'For, behold, the day cometh, that shall >>>burn as an oven<<<; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall >>>burn them up<<<, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall >>>leave them neither root nor branch<<<.'
3. 'And ye shall >>>tread down the wicked<<<; for they shall be >>>ashes<<< under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.
So readers, according to CULTISTrsvp the above verses would be 'very significant verses in support of eternal conscious torment' in his own words ??? Right? But really what is 'eternal' but to ASHES of continual sinners that become >>>AFTER<<< paying for their own sins in FOR SURE 'conscious torment' until PAYMENT is RENDERED for the DEEDS in the HUMAN life of less than a 100 years of sinning but for satan/devil/dragon it will be DAYS of 'conscious torment' and YES - 'after all, doesn’t the text says they are tormented!!!??? Yes, it does!!! And so then what happens to the lucifer/satan/devil/dragon that becomes eventually 'NONEXISTANT' in the PIT OF ASHES on the earth for all the SINLESS saints to see????
Ezekiel 28:18 'Thou (satan the covering cherub/angel verse 16) hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I >>>bring forth a fire from the midst of thee<<<, it shall >>>devour thee<<<, and I will >>>bring thee to ashes<<< upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee!'
Just like the CONTEXT of the Bible about the wicked judged in that SAME 'Lake of Fire' outside the New Jerusalem City to become ASHES and for them to look at themselves, their sinful lives, what become of them in a 'figurative' sense!
Psalms 37:10 - 'For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.”
Talk about >>>AFTER<< the suffering and the state of nonexistence in the end or that leads to nonexistence FOR EVER!!! Its so obvious!
So this forum kindergarten PUNK of CULTISTrsvp and his 'coloring books' to claiming to 'COLOR' the Bible with his WICKEDNESS in false teachings not FOUND in the CONTEXT of Scripture about judgment day is only 'figurative' of sinners according to him, those continual sinners actually NOT DYING in that one day made LAKE OF FIRE then and WHERE it LITERALLY takes place - Revelation 20:9. Right?
👩🏫 kindergarten 👶🍼 sunday school for teddy bugs -- back to the ABC's 123's
Posted : 6 Feb, 2022 10:06 AM
slanderingdavid writes - Teddy posts about hell, consist largely of psychological clinical denial.'
slanderingdavid is a LIAR! I have always taught the 'hell' is REAL, its the grave you IDIOT! Did not the Messiah go to 'hell' (Acts 2:31)??? WHAT an absolute MORON!!!
False teacher tinydavid goes on to say - 'He (Ted) continues to beg the question: WHY are false teachers, like the Teddy, so fearful of eternal torments⁉️⁉️'
GEESH, what's to be fearful of two words never used together in the Bible you IDIOT!?
👩🏫 kindergarten 👶🍼 sunday school for teddy bugs -- back to the ABC's 123's
Posted : 6 Feb, 2022 10:59 AM
You know dear people of God like the old saying goes pull one card out the whole stack falls
And this is how you deal with cultists like teddy bugs ☠️☠️ who fallaciously believes that Psalms 37:10 is about annihilationism
Psalms 37:10 - 'For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.”
☑️☑️ Psalm 37:1-40 is about security for those who trust in God and how the wicked will be destroyed. It is not speaking about soul-sleep or some future Day of Judgment annihilation. Following are extractions from the Psalm.
Psalm 37:2, “For they [evildoers] will wither quickly like the grass and fade like the green herb.”
Psalm 37:9, “For evildoers will be cut off.“
Psalm 37:10, “Yet a little while and the wicked man will be no more; and you will look carefully for his place and he will not be there.”
Psalm 37:20, “But the wicked will perish, and the enemies of the LORD will be like the glory of the pastures. They vanish—like smoke they vanish away.”
Psalm 37:36, “Then he passed away, and lo, he was no more; I sought for him, but he could not be found.”
Psalm 37:38, “But transgressors will be altogether destroyed; The posterity of the wicked will be cut off.”
☑️☑️ David is saying that the wicked person will soon die and be no more. He says that they will be looked for but will not be there. The verse implies that David is speaking from the perspective of this age, in this world. This is why he says, “you will look carefully for his place and he will not be there.” Furthermore, the previous verse 9 and the next verse 11 speak of how God’s people will inherit the land. David is speaking about the righteous being patient, and they are to realize that the wicked will soon be gone.
🙂💯👍 This would be speaking of the physical death of the wicked from their present perspective, not about final annihilation
👩🏫 kindergarten 👶🍼 sunday school for teddy bugs -- back to the ABC's 123's
Posted : 6 Feb, 2022 12:48 PM
Once again the false teacher TeddyBug is reduced to calling names because he can’t disprove ANY of the evidence presented against his false denial of eternal hell