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Posted : 4 Feb, 2022 11:45 AM
as you can see dear people of God teddy bugs ongoing flagrant abuse of bible passages lends itself in the quote below of Romans 6:23 which of course is right on par with his flat earth mythology
So like I said - 'Simply said the punishment is DEATH (and its eternal come judgment day!!!) for sin (Romans 6:23!) not eternal life in a fire you idiots CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid! ' -- teddy bugs
👮♂️ 🙂👍💯 so once again we have to call the theology police and cite teddy bugs for his violations 📝 👮♂️🚓🚨
“For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord,” (Romans 6:23).
Conditionalists often use this verse to support annihilationism by presupposing that the word “death” means nonexistence in the final eternal judgment. But, the verse doesn’t say that. Let’s look at the context to see if it supports the annihilationist assumption.
“Therefore what benefit were you then deriving from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the outcome of those things is death. 22 But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you derive your benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. 7:1 Or do you not know, brethren (for I am speaking to those who know the law), that the law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives? 2 For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband,” (Romans 6:21–7:2).
So, nothing in the context demands the annihilationist interpretation. Nevertheless, they contrast eternal life with death and say that death means nonexistence where eternal life means being saved and enjoying eternal existence only with God. One of the things they say is that eternal life is never spoken of in reference to the unbelievers, but only the believers. Well, yes, of course. Eternal life is life eternal with Christ Jesus in heaven. Eternal death is eternal separation (Isaiah 59:2) that consists of eternal torment (Jude 6-7; Rev. 14:10-11). So there is no problem with understanding this verse from the traditionalist point of view.
Furthermore, the word for “death” in Romans 6:23 is θάνατος, thanatos. It occurs 120 times in the Greek New Testament. Following is a breakdown of how the word is used in every occurrence.
Romans 6:23 does not necessitate the annihilationist view that death means eventual, eternal nonexistence. The Greek word ‘thanatos’ is used in different contexts such as the “shadow of death,” (Matt. 4:16), “this body of death,” (Rom. 7:24), physical death (Matt. 10:21; Luke 2:26; Rom. 5:10; Rev. 1:18), either spiritual or physical death (Rom. 1:32; James 1:15; 1 John 5:16), pestilence (Rev. 9:6; 18:8), etc. It has a variety of meanings. Whichever the case is, words mean what they mean in context, 👉👉👉👉👉👉 and Rom. 6:23 does not necessitate that the death spoken of there means nonexistence. To say that it does is to force into the text what it does not necessitate. It is only the annihilationist presuppositions that lead them to say the verse supports conditional immortality 😉😉
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Posted : 4 Feb, 2022 03:38 PM
CULTISTrsvp quotes Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord,”
Then claims that verse really does not mean DEATH of sinners come judgment day but instead READS 'eternal torment' INTO the verse! Right?
So there you have it readers, the Messiah really didn't die for sinners and He therefore did NOT pay the price of sin which is DEATH according to CULTISTrsvp!!! Right??? That's right readers, CULTISTrsvp claims the Messiah did not pay the price of 'eternal torment' either according to CULTISTrsvp own CULT doctrine! CULTISTrsvp is really losing his marbles now isn't he and is DESPARATE with his CULT copy and paste to 'prove it' but PROVES NOTHING! LMBO!
FOLKS YOU JUST CANNOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP!!!
I mean CULTISTrsvp posts the CONTEXT somewhat but is CLUELESS to understanding it!! Here it is again by his own copy and paste and he does NOT even READ IT before posting it! He is TOTALLY OWNED by the Bible in his FALSE DOCTRINE! READ BELOW!
QUOTE - “Therefore what benefit were you then deriving from the things of which you are now ashamed? For >>>the outcome of those things is death<<<. 22 But now having been freed from sin (no longer serving the sinful nature) and enslaved to YHWH, you derive your benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, >>>eternal life<<<. (the opposite of eternal death!) 23 For >>>the wages of sin is death<<< (not life in a one day made lake of fire), but the free gift of God is >>>eternal life<<< (AGAIN the opposite of eternal death!) in Christ Jesus our Lord. 7:1 Or do you not know, brethren (for I am speaking to those who know the law - and keep it), that the law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives? 2 For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband,”
Its so obvious that sin requires DEATH, right readers? From CULTISTrsvp own posts and quotes!!! Now if that is not damaging enough, that the wages of sin is DEATH (NOT LIFE!) lets look at the FULL CONTEXT! CULTISTrsvp ONLY partially quoted!
Romans 6:16 - 23 and 7:1-5
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of >>>sin unto death<<<, or of obedience unto righteousness (righteousness - eternal life the opposite of eternal death - unrighteousness!!!)?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin (use to be sinners!), but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18 Being then made free from sin (its penalty which is DEATH!), ye became the servants of righteousness (no longer sinning!) .
19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness (sinning at that time!) and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness (no longer sinning!).
20 For when ye were the servants of sin (unrighteousness!), ye were free from righteousness.
21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is >>>death<<<. (NOT LIFE IN A FIRE! ) The price of sin is DEATH and that's what the Messiah paid the price for, its soooooo FUNDEMENTALLY understood except for CULTISTrsvp of course!!
22 But now being made free from sin (AND DEATH because of committing it, for the Messiah paid that price! ), and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. (the opposite of everlasting death!!!)
Chapter 7
1. Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is >>>raised from the dead<<<, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh (giving into sinful flesh), the motions (actions) of sins, which were by the law (to then be subjected to punishment by the Torah Law), did work (when we disobeyed) in our members to bring forth fruit >>>unto death<<<.
NOT unto 'eternal torment' that CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid claim the penalty of sin is!!! GEESH, what indoctrinated IDIOTS!
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Posted : 5 Feb, 2022 12:16 PM
absolutely bro david annihilationism conditionalism like sinless perfectionism are all pathological delusions in a cheap attempt to cope with biblical realities
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Posted : 6 Feb, 2022 01:01 PM
The verse in question in this thread - “For the >>>wages of sin is death<<<, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord,” (Romans 6:23).
According to CULTISTrsvp he says in his NON Biblical words of course - Romans 6:23 'that the word “death” means nonexistence in the final eternal judgment. But, the verse doesn’t say that.'
So according to CULTISTrsvp, death does not mean death because people don't really die! The Messiah never died then according to CULTISTrsvp , right? Then to make matters soooo much worse for his CULT doctrine, the very verse that says DEATH is the PAYMENT for sin, its WAGES paid in full come judgment day obviously but for some strange reason outside of Scripture no less, CULTISTrsvp now claims DEATH really means ETERNAL LIFE OF TORMENT in a made 'lake of fire' someday??? REALLY NOW!
CULTISTrsvp states from his 'greco-roman' view here, which describes him quite well because he is still 'GREEK' in understanding Scripture and very much a 'ROMAN' in keeping a PAGAN roman calendar, let alone keeping a RCC 666 PAGAN SUNday to worship BAAL on! -
Quote from this thread - 'Eternal death is eternal separation (Isaiah 59:2) that consists of eternal torment (Jude 7; Rev. 14:10-11). So there is no problem with understanding this verse from the >>>traditionalist<<< point of view.
BIG PROBLEM IS that NOWHERE in all those verses does it EVER put those TWO words together of 'eternal' and 'torment' that CULTISTrsvp inserts in Scripture and therefore changing the meaning of what takes place on judgment day! Note also the verse in question, Romans 6:23, NEVER SAYS - the wages of sin is eternal torment, so why does CULTISTrsvp claim its there????
Now lets look at he ULTIMATE 'olympic style' KNOCK OUT PUNCH known to this forum as CULTISTrsvp, shall we?
Note he claims Jude 7 teaches 'eternal torment' that supposedly exists by definition of two combined words that NEVER exist together in the Bible but that 'torment' never ends come judgment day because the continual sinner will NEVER ever pay the price for their own sin and never die! Is that true?
Jude 7 - 'Even as >>>Sodom and Gomorrah<<<, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are >>>set forth for an example<<<, >suffering< the vengeance of >>>eternal fire<<<'
Is it not obvious that CULTISTrsvp has been 'olympic style greco-roman' KNOCKED OUT in SLAM DUNK manner like an all star wrestler would do???
Its really simple logic isn't it readers??? READ MY LIPS CULTISTrsvp 'Sodom and Gomorrah' is not burning today you IDIOT! The Bible is clear its 'set forth for an example' to us today in what JUDGMENT DAY will be like WHEN continual sinners will be BURNED UP in the 'eternal fire' that will be started and never stopped/quenched by Father YHWH, just like Sodom and Gomorrah was you IGNORANT INDOCTRINATED SHEEP of your CULT teaching 'church' of the lost!!
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Posted : 6 Feb, 2022 02:40 PM
So far, in JUST THE LAST several posts, the TeddyBug has displayed his ABUNDANT ignorance in even more ways which include the following: the meaning of the word “parable”, the meaning of “figurative language or speech” and the meaning and application of the the word “cult”. The TeddyBug also thinks the real story Jesus told about Lazareth, the rich man and Abraham is a made up story‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
Right? 
Right??? 
That's right readers, CULTISTrsvp claims the Messiah did not pay the price of 'eternal torment' either according to CULTISTrsvp own CULT doctrine! 
CULTISTrsvp is really losing his marbles now isn't he and is DESPARATE with his CULT copy and paste to 'prove it' but PROVES NOTHING! 
LMBO!
Here it is again by his own copy and paste and he does NOT even READ IT before posting it! 
He is TOTALLY OWNED by the Bible in his FALSE DOCTRINE! 
) The price of sin is DEATH and that's what the Messiah paid the price for, its soooooo FUNDEMENTALLY understood except for CULTISTrsvp of course!! 
