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👨⚖️ 🚫 annihilating teddy bugs false teaching of annihilationism
Posted : 3 Feb, 2022 11:14 AM
dear people of God as you can see teddy bugs believes teachers that the soul of the wicked will be destroyed rather than everlasting punishment
" Simply said the punishment is DEATH (and its eternal come judgment day!!!) for sin (Romans 6:23!) not eternal life in a fire you idiot! " teddy bugs 👹👹
🙂💯👍👉👉 but here's some food for thought 👨🍳
Annihilation of the soul: “Certain Jews portrayed death as the end of personal existence. For example, Jesus ben Sirach taught that there are no joys to seek in Sheol (Sirach 14:16–17). Instead, God’s people should pursue immortality through children (Sirach 30:4–5) and a lasting reputation (Sirach 41:11–13). Assorted epitaphs and the writer of Ecclesiastes present a similarly cynical view (Eccl 3:18–22; 9:10; van der Horst, Hellenism, Judaism, Christianity, 36–37). The Sadducees held a reduced view of Sheol. Failing to find a basis for the afterlife in the Pentateuch, they held that death meant personal extinction; the only immortal thing was Yahweh’s covenant with Israel.”6
Pagan King lost seven sons as did Job: “Canaanite literature from Ugarit describes the trials of King Keret who, like Job, lost seven sons.” 7
God does battle: “Various biblical texts depicting the God of Israel in battle with the sea and/or a dragon (Pss 74:12–17; 89:6–13; Isa 51:9–10; Job 7:12; 26:12–13) have been connected to Mesopotamian mythological motifs.” 8
Mountain of God: “The background for the imagery of this lament is uncertain. The mountain of God has parallels in Canaanite mythology. Use of such mythological imagery might be expected in an address to a Phoenician king.” 9
Son of Man coming with the clouds: The discovery of Ugaritic texts further suggests a link between apocalyptic literature and ancient Near Eastern mythology. These Ugaritic texts provide Canaanite parallels to some of the imagery used in Dan 7. In particular, the biblical descriptions of “one like a Son of Man” coming “with the clouds of heaven” (e.g., Dan 7:13) parallel epithets of Baal as one who rides on the clouds; additionally, Yahweh’s title “Ancient of Days” (e.g., Dan 7:9, 13) is similar to descriptions of El as the “Father of Years” (Collins, Apocalyptic Imagination, 101–02).”10
Bodily Resurrection: “Other Jews professed belief in a physical resurrection. For example, the Apocalypse of Moses states that at the end of the age, “all flesh, from Adam up to that great day, shall be raised” (Apocalypse of Moses 13:3). Other texts state that the resurrected pious “will live on earth again” (Sibylline Oracles 4:242–44) “wearing the garments of glory” (1 Enoch 62:15). In the martyrdom account of 2 Maccabees 7, the mother and her sons hold fast under torture because of their hope of bodily restoration.”
❗❗ So, what are we to do? We must look at Scripture. The conditionalists should focus on the word of God since it is the final authority in everything it addresses. The conditionalists ought to be careful when they condemn the immortality of the soul as a pagan idea since as the above quotes demonstrate, similarities don’t invalidate concepts. And, if you think about it, the annihilation of the soul is found in nonbiblical sources as well. So, if the conditionalist wants to be consistent, then he must condemn his own view as pagan
👨⚖️ 🚫 annihilating teddy bugs false teaching of annihilationism
Posted : 3 Feb, 2022 11:19 AM
PART 2️⃣
👨⚖️ equal Grace equal justice ❗❗
Eis tous aionios ton aionion – – Forever and Ever, Lit. “into the age of the ages”
“unlimited duration of time, with particular focus upon the future – ‘always, forever, forever and ever, eternally.”
Phil. 4:20 – “. . .to our God and Father be the glory forever and ever.”
Rev. 19:3 – ” . . .Her smoke rises up forever and ever.”
Rev. 20:10 – “And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.”4
👉👉 these few references and quotes should be ample evidence that eternal hell, eternal fire, is real. It is a terrible reality, and it is all the more important to preach the gospel. Teddy bug and the c u l t s I s t s are wrong ☹️💯👎 ❗❗and their theology only dilutes the need to come to Christ
👨⚖️ 🚫 annihilating teddy bugs false teaching of annihilationism
Posted : 3 Feb, 2022 11:38 AM
PART 3️⃣
context of Luke 16:19-31 says…
Luke is writing to Theophilus (Luke 1:3) and provides a narrative of the events of the life of Christ. Luke arranges the parables of Luke 15 and 16 in a specific way. He mentions where Jesus speaks of the salvation of unbelievers in the parables of the Lost Sheep (Luke 15:1-7) and Lost Coin (Luke 15:8-10). He then gives us the parable of the Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-32) which is about being lost, being found, forgiveness, and the love of God. Most probably, the older Son represents the Jews (Luke 15:31) which is relevant to Jesus addressing the Pharisees in (Luke 16:14-18). The Unrighteous Steward (Luke 16:1-13) is an appeal to understand the true nature of God (the Steward trusted in the goodness of the Landowner which is why he was praised). Jesus definitely connects this parable to the afterlife since he mentions eternal dwellings (Luke 16:9). Jesus mentions the unrighteousness of the Pharisees which will affect their future dwellings (Luke 16:14-18). Then, Jesus speaks of the Rich Man and Lazarus along with the afterlife-consequences of their time on earth. Isn’t this clear that the context of Luke’s writings is not referencing pagan ideas, but the the thematically consistent words of Christ instead ❓❓
Here is a synopsis.......
Lost Sheep (Luke 15:1-7) – Salvation of people
Rejoicing over finding what is lost.
Rejoicing over sinners who repent.
Lost Coin (Luke 15:8-10) – Salvation of people
Rejoicing over finding what is lost.
Rejoicing over sinners who repent.
Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-32) – Reconciliation, forgiveness (salvation), and the love of God
The older son represents the Jews
Unrighteous Steward (Luke 16:1-13) – Salvation and eternal dwellings, eschatological
The unrighteous are smarter than the Jews in that they are concerned with their future.
The Jews showed a lack of wisdom about their future.
This is eschatological since Jesus mentions eternal dwellings in v. 9,
This is eschatological.
The unrighteousness of the Pharisees (Luke 16:14-18) – Salvation lost, eschatological
The Jews were lovers of money. They showed a lack of wisdom about their future.
The passage is about salvation since Jesus mentions the gospel of the kingdom of God being preached in v. 16
This is eschatological.
The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31) – Salvation, eschatological
👉👉 please see below why this is not a parable ⭐⭐
Parable or not, Jesus mentions the afterlife ❗❗
If conscious torment is not true, then why was Jesus speaking of it ❓❓
Luke has arranged the parables for a reason. He is speaking of salvation, its importance, and the necessity of avoiding the horrifying afterlife consequences. Furthermore, there are parallels between the unrighteous steward and the rich man and Lazarus
⭐⭐those who interpret this narrative as a true incident have several reasons for doing so. First, the story is never called a parable. Many other of Jesus’ stories are designated as parables, such as the sower and the seed (Luke 8:4); the prosperous farmer (Luke 12:16); the barren fig tree (Luke 13:6); and the wedding feast (Luke 14:7). Second, the story of the rich man and Lazarus uses the actual name of a person. Such specificity would set it apart from ordinary parables, in which the characters are not named.
Third, this particular story does not seem to fit the definition of a parable, which is a presentation of a spiritual truth using an earthly illustration. The story of the rich man and Lazarus presents spiritual truth directly, with no earthly metaphor. The setting for most of the story is the afterlife, as opposed to the parables, which unfold in earthly contexts.
In contrast, others maintain that this story is a parable and not an actual, real-life incident. They point out that Jesus’ standard practice was to use parables in His teaching and that the story of the rich man and Lazarus follows a string of parables in Luke 15 – 16. They do not consider the above arguments strong enough to warrant classifying the story as anything but a parable
👨⚖️ 🚫 annihilating teddy bugs false teaching of annihilationism
Posted : 3 Feb, 2022 11:09 PM
Why are false teachers so afraid of eternal torment in hell
Specifically, why does the Mattel “Elder” TeddyBug, who is also a false teacher, waste so much time writing lengthy nonsensical posts trying to explain a way eternal torments⁉️
TeddyBug, you just can’t wish real stuff away‼️
Could the reason, false teachers are so adverse and fearful of eternal torments, be the result of troubled consciences over burdened with guilt⁉️⁉️
👨⚖️ 🚫 annihilating teddy bugs false teaching of annihilationism
Posted : 4 Feb, 2022 10:41 AM
There is no words 'eternal' and 'torment' used together in the Bible, so why assume so? What's your point other than given 'labels' made up by sinful men as yourself!
tinyfaithdavid writes - 'Why are false teachers so afraid of eternal torment in hell'
Note the assumption that they are 'false teachers' just because they KNOW IN BIBLE CONTEXT that there is NEVER those two words 'eternal' and 'torment' used together in the Bible, so what's to be afraid of??? Further more tinyfaithdavid is NOW GUILTY of >>>ADDING<<< to Father YHWH's WORD the Bible of things it does not say!
Revelation 22:18 'For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, >>>If any man shall ADD unto these things<<<, Father YHWH shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:'
And finally tinyfaithdavid does NOT even know the definition of the word 'HELL' which simply is another WORD FOR THE GRAVE! So how can it be a burning place by his hallucination??? Why does tinyfaithdavid REFUSE to understand BY CONTEXT that the lake of fire' and 'hell' are two different places and definitions!! GEESH, even a child could tell him that from grade school! LOL!
So according to tinyfaithdavid he thinks Father YHWH will cast a fire in a fire??????????? - Revelation 20:14 'And death (also) and >>>hell<<< were cast into the >>>lake of fire<<<. This is the second (and final) death.'
👨⚖️ 🚫 annihilating teddy bugs false teaching of annihilationism
Posted : 4 Feb, 2022 10:50 AM
There is no word called 'annihilationism' in the Bible, so why assume so? What's your point other than given 'labels' made up by sinful men as yourself!
So then CULTISTrsvp states - 'dear people of (my pagan named) 'God' as you can see teddy bugs believes teachers that the soul of the wicked will be destroyed rather than 'everlasting punishment'
First of all readers, CULTISTrsvp does not even know what a 'soul' is! Adam became a living 'soul' >>>not received<<< a 'soul' because Adam was SIMPLY made a unique PERSON as we all are and even animals are uniquely made! The Bible says animals are also 'souls' (Rev. 16:3)
Note Adam when he was created - Genesis 2:7 'And Father YHWH >>>formed man of the dust of the ground<<<, and breathed (by His Holy Spirit) into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.' (NOT received a soul!)
Note Adam did NOT receive a 'soul' but become one! He was simply a created form/soul upon the ground, made from the ground, dead yet, until Father YHWH (The ONE and only Creator, for there is NO OTHER!) breathed His set apart Holy Spirit into Adam, THEN Adam became a LIVING SOUL/UNIQUE CREATURE and or PERSON!!! Correct? Its soooooo simple to understand when you JUST READ THE BIBLE, its CONTEXT for yourself, which of course CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid REFUSE to do!!!
But CULTISTrsvp does get one thing right, well sort of, yet ACCURATELY states what the Bible says - 'that the soul (PERSON) of the wicked will be destroyed' with an 'everlasting
punishment' but as you can see by his post (and much PAGAN authors copy and paste afterward) he does not understand CONTEXT of Scripture on the subject of judgment which is simply LIFE OR DEATH come judgment day! The Bible is sooooooooooooooooooooo CLEAR on this subject!
So what is the 'everlasting punishment'? Its DEATH, correct, and its EVERLASTING to continual sinners that love to sin like CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid like to do by their own testimony on this forum for all to see, such as 'running stop signs' and 'sinning in their sleep' also breaking the 7th day Sabbath, eating ABOMINATIONS they strangely claim to do!!??? Right?
So what was the verse (and there are MANY MORE!) that CULTISTrsvp FAILED to take into CONTEXT on the subject of judgment day??? The ONLY TWO judgments!!!
Romans 6:23 - 'For the wages of sin is >>>DEATH<<< (NOT ETERNAL TORMENT!); but the >>>gift of Father YHWH is eternal life<<< through Messiah Yah'shua our Master.'
Dear readers! Obvious problems with CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid 'faith' in their secular, PAGAN teachings outside CANON of Scripture that teach there is 'eternal torment' someday! Read on!
Question 1. - Were all the continual sinners given 'everlasting punishment' (actually YES they were! But what was that punishment but DEATH, right???) during the flood and therefore they are still alive swimming/drowning/suffering in 'eternal torment' as CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid claim will take place in the one day made lake of fire outside the New Jerusalem City clearly described in Revelation 20:9!!!
So according to CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid, they teach that those continual sinners and judged subjects are still drowning in the flood YET TODAY and have 'eternal life' in that judgment for ever!!! FOLKS YOU JUST CANNOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP!!! Such is the LOGIC and STUPIDITY in CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid CULT teachings!!!
Question 2. - Were all the continual sinners given 'everlasting punishment' (actually YES they were! But what was that punishment but DEATH, right???) in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and therefore they are still burning/suffering in 'eternal torment' as CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid claim is still taking place and will also take place in the one day made lake of fire outside the New Jersulam City clearly described in Revelation 20:9!!!
So according to CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid, they teach that those continual sinners and judged subjects are still burning/suffering in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah YET TODAY and have 'eternal life' in that judgment for ever!!! FOLKS YOU JUST CANNOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP!!! Such is the LOGIC and STUPIDITY in CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid CULT teachings!!!
So like I said - 'Simply said the punishment is DEATH (and its eternal come judgment day!!!) for sin (Romans 6:23!) not eternal life in a fire you idiots CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid! '
👨⚖️ 🚫 annihilating teddy bugs false teaching of annihilationism
Posted : 4 Feb, 2022 11:53 AM
CULTISTrsvp writes in his own CULTISH words - 'equal Grace equal justice'
So what he really means is 'equal Grace justice' which is eternal life freely given to those who have FAITH, the righteous and then the 'equal justice' which is 'eternal life' for the wicked in a one day made lake of fire!
So according to CULTISTrsvp both the 'equal justice' of the always sinning wicked and the 'equal Grace' of the righteous NONE sinning will both eat of the tree of life??????? LMBO!
Rev. 19:3 – ” . . .Her smoke rises up forever and ever.”
Ever start a fire and what happens after it CONSUMES its fuel/objects??? Simply said its the SMOKE that continues to rise long after the fire is but coals! Not the torment that CULTISTrsvp and tinyfaithdavid claim takes place FOR EVER!
Judgment fire someday - Isaiah 33:14 'The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. >>>Who among us shall dwell (have everlasting life) with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell (stay alive) with >>>everlasting burnings<<<?
Ezekiel 28:18 'Thou (satan the covering cherub/angel verse 16) hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I >>>bring forth a fire from the midst of thee<<<, it shall >>>devour thee<<<, and I will >>>bring thee to ashes<<< upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
Rev. 20:10 – “And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Will the devil and his angels burn for days? Of course he will until he pays for his sins! Then what?
Ezekiel 28:19 - 'All they that know thee (satan) among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and >>>never shalt thou be (alive) any more<<<."
Its VERY interesting that the Bible clearly says satan will be brought to ashes on the stationary none moving earth in chapter 28 of Ezekiel, yet ODDLY enough CULTISTrsvp and
tinyfaithdavid teach that HUMAN continual sinners will get eternal life' in a one day made lake of fire!!!??? SAY WHAT?
But what does the Bible say?
Malachi 4:1,3
1. 'For, behold, the day cometh, that shall >>>burn as an oven<<<; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall >>>burn them up<<<, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall >>>leave them neither root nor branch<<<.'
3. 'And ye shall >>>tread down the wicked<<<; for they shall be >>>ashes<<< under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.