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Calling out sin
Posted : 28 Jan, 2022 11:13 AM

Sometimes on YouTube I watch some evangelical preachers and teachers who talks about a lot of the things going on in the world and just how it’s getting. I like what I hear from them for the most part because they preach and teach from the Bible. But I do notice some of tend to talk about certain celebrities that are supposedly “saved” and they tend call out certain sins that these people do or that they speak. Personally I think that’s a dangerous thing to do if you’re a christian, because if you’re not careful you may find yourself in the mindset that you think that everyone is a sinner but you and that’s not a good mindset to be in. Because even though you are saved you are still in a sinful body. Just because someone commits a sin worser than you doesn’t mean their sins are greater your’s. In the end sin is sin, and no matter how big or small it’s all the same. No person’s sin is greater than other person’s. That’s why I think it’s, not really wrong, but unwise to make a person’s sin public. Do I believe we should call sin though? Yes. But in private. It’s not our duties to make another person’s sin public to make an example out of them or something. I believe that’s the Lord’s job to do. He can make a person’s sins known. I know what you might be asking “What exactly should we do when we see someone sin?”. The answer, pray. Pray the will give them conviction and pray that they will ask the Lord for forgiveness. Because remember, even though we might be saved (I don’t know rest of your hearts only my own) we aren’t perfect, and believe it or not we can still sin and fall away from God. That’s why we should always be in prayer and constantly in the word of God. I know it’s frustrating when you hear someone say something or see someone do something against God, and that’s fine, I personally get that way myself, but instead of being like Peter, drawing our swords and cutting off the ears of our enemies, we should be more like Jesus and ask God to forgive them, because they know not what they do.

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Posted : 28 Jan, 2022 03:35 PM

@ morgan

Morgan,where in the Scriptures does GOD Almighty call believers in Yashua 'SINNERS'

Believers in Messiah are SAINTS,not 'sinners.

2. Where in the New Covenant are BELIEVERS told they need to ask to be forgiven.

3. Morgan, are you a sinner,or a SAINT.

4.Morgan, do you need to be forgiven,or are you already forgiven Isaiah 53.

The just shall live by faith.

There are some that do not understand this, as they do not believe what had been written, the Holy Spirit reveals these simple truths to believers.

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2022 08:36 AM

Quiznos, you’re confused. I’m not saying that believers are sinners, but the bodies they are in are sinful. When God saves someone He doesn’t save the body, He saves the soul, and when you the body dies it goes back to the dust of the earth. But just because one gets saved it doesn’t make them perfect and doesn’t make them any better than those that are not saved. Those that are saved are better off than those that aren’t, but not better than they are. Also Quiznos it takes more than just believing in God to be saved. You do have to be willing to confess all of your sins to the Lord and you have to be willing to give those sins up. And lastly, about forgiveness, you mention Isaiah 53, but John 1:9 says “ If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”. Acts 3:9 also says “Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out.”.

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2022 09:49 AM

@morgan

Morgan, when we see this life from GOD Almightys understanding, we understand that He knows what this life would be like before He created anything, as He is outside of time.

He knows the beginning to the end,as He is Alpha and Omega.

To GOD Almighty He had forgiven everyone before He created anyone,as He already knows what He will do, as He is Omniscient.

Before He created man,Yashua was already set apart as the atoning sacrifice,(Revlation 5 verse 6).

GOD Almighty has already forgiven everyone their sins,according to Isaiah 53, yet the person does not understand this while living in unbelief.

What GOD Almighty says in His Word has already be complete, as He knows the beginning from the end, but man does not as man,is finite, not knowing what the future holds.

In mans mind, he is forgiven when he trusts Messiah, in the mind of GOD Almighty, the man was forgiven before creation existed.

Morgan, do we understand this life from mans view, or from GOD Almightys view.

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2022 10:21 AM

Once again, the Quiz posts more man-made teaching and then tucks a verse of scripture in there to make it sound spiritual.

The truth is, all human beings have a sin nature, even believers.

One difference between a true believer and a nonbeliever is the regular confession of sin AND doing battle with the old sin nature to bring it in to submission to God’s will.

Unbelievers have little awareness of their sin natures and, as a consequence, see no need to confess sin

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2022 10:23 AM

Once again, the Quiz posts more man-made teaching and then tucks a verse of scripture in there to make it sound spiritual.

The truth is, all human beings have a sin nature, even believers.

One difference between a true believer and a nonbeliever is the regular confession of sin AND doing battle with the old sin nature to bring it in to submission to God’s will.

Unbelievers have little awareness of their sin natures and, as a consequence, see no need to confess sin

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2022 10:58 AM

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Dave, once again you do not umderstand what i had posted, as you want to see this life from a mans understanding, not that of GOD Almighty.

Where did i deny,man not being SINFUL,show your evidence,

If you have any without twisting anything i had posted.

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2022 01:40 PM

Quiz, seems all you have are unsubstantiated accusations and such—AND here you’ve made another accusation, as usual.

Please show where I’ve twisted what you said.

But then again, it looks like you don’t need help twisting your posts, you’re doing a fine job of that all by yourself.

In fact, most of your posts read like a bad bind of twisted nonsense. In fact, here’s an example of that in the following:

THE QUIZ SAYS: “Morgan,where in the Scriptures does GOD Almighty call believers in Yashua 'SINNERS'

Believers in Messiah are SAINTS,not 'sinners.

2. Where in the New Covenant are BELIEVERS told they need to ask to be forgiven.

3. Morgan, are you a sinner,or a SAINT” END WHAT THE QUIZ SAYS





LITTLEDAVID ASKS: Quiz, If you have a sinner nature, don’t you have to confess sin in your life⁉️ ALSO Isn’t anyone who sins—a sinner⁉️

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2022 06:50 PM

@dave

Dave you posted this nonsense.

LITTLEDAVID ASKS: Quiz, If you have a sinner nature, don’t you have to confess sin in your life⁉️ ALSO Isn’t anyone who sins—a sinner

Quiz: Dave, once more you do not understand what GOD Almighty says in His Word about those that are believers in Yashua.

A person has a SINFUL nature, not a 'sinner',nature, another basic truth in Scripture you do not understand.

Dave, you and countless 'christians' believe the lie, that they are so called 'sinners' because they sin.

So according to the 'christians',

their position before GOD Almighty is one of being a Sinner.

Actually the Scriptures state that everyone has a SINFUL nature, thus we sin because we are SINFUL.

When any FAITHS into Yashua, He makes them a new creation, and places His nature inside of them,one that is holy, that is His Holy Spirit, thus a believer has two natures,one that wants to sin, one that is able to live holy.

A person confesses sin, because they have already been forgiven, they repent as the Holy Spirit empowers them to repent.

Now Dave, what do you believe GOD Almighty says about BELIEVERS in Yashua,

Are they 'sinners', or Saints.

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2022 08:51 PM

Quiz, like you say: the teachings of men are hardly worth comparing to the word of God—AND you just handed me a bucket of a man’s foolish teachings.

For one thing, when you say people can be “sinful” but cannot be “sinners”—you’re just being laughable!!

Once again you’ve fallen for another word range fallacy which assumes, in your case, that the word “sinner” must always mean the same thing regardless of it’s context.

For example, some contexts make a distinction between the righteous and the wicked unsaved sinners.

Quiz the Bible refers to believers as Saints and as sinners depending on the teaching in that context.

For example, In Romans 7, I John I, the Lord’s Prayer and other places Saints can be sinners because they sin. They are therefore sinners because the term sinner is what you call someone who is sinful.

Saints, even through declared forensically righteous, cease from sin and are no longer sinners only when they die and are glorified.

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2022 10:08 PM

Quiznos, Isaiah 53 doesn’t say God has already forgiven us of sins, Isaiah 53 is about Jesus. And how can man understand this life from God’s view. Man isn’t God. Man can’t view the same way God can.

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