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fix a flat fairy tales 🧚♂️ episode 33 -- 💡😉 setting teddy bugs straight about 1John 3:9 and sinless perfectionism
Posted : 28 Jan, 2022 11:02 AM
🤔🙄 as you can see dear people of God teddy bugs like a lot of cultists attempts to use his own interpretation of a passage to forward his cultic sinless perfectionist false teaching
" But the Bible of course disagrees with and exposes tinyfaithdavid ERROR (and his continual sins!) in his taking the CONTEXT of the Bible - OUT OF CONTEXT! So what does he do about verses like this then - "  teddy bugs
1 John 3:9 (KJV) - Whosoever is >>>born of (Father) YHWH doth not commit sin;<<< for His seed remaineth in him, and he cannot sin, because he is born of YHWH
😉 Incidentally the KJV uses Greek not Hebrew YHWH so there again teddy bugs is tampering with the Bible but off to the topic at hand
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Zane Hodges writes, There is no doubt that in an appropriate context the Greek present tense can have a present progressive force like he is sinning. But the introduction of ideas like continue to sin or to go on doing require more than the Greek tense to make them intelligible. For this purpose, there were Greek words available, words actually used in the New Testament.
and were continually in the temple blessing God. Luke 24:53 ESV
Here continually is the Greek word diapantos. This same word is used in:
Through him then let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that acknowledge his name. Hebrews 13:15 ESV
The Greek present tense did not by itself convey the idea of continually or habitually or of a practice. If John wanted to say No one born of God makes a practice of sinning he would have used the available Greek words to make his point. No first century Greek reader or hearer was likely to get a meaning like practice sin.
John Murray, commenting on 1 John 3:9, writes 👉👉
The interpretation that the regenerate person does not habitually sin labors under two liabilities: (1) The term "habitually" is not a sufficient well-defined term. (2) This characterization leaves too much of a loophole for the incisiveness of John's teaching; it allows that the believer might commit certain sins, though not habitually. This would contradict the decisiveness of such a statement that the one begotten of God does not sin and cannot sin. (John Murray, Collected Writings, Systematic Theology, Volume 2, 283).
💡💡 Smalley also unmasks this misuse of the present tense when he points out that 5:16 uses the present tense to describe specific sinful acts, not chronic transgression. The present tense cannot bear the weight that the translation keeps on sinning places on it in 3:6, 9.
The Sinless Perfection View: 👎👎☹️
Those who hold this view take 1 John 3:9 at face value and say that they no longer sin. The Quietist Movement, originally popular among the Quakers and which became part of the Arminian perfectionist movement, believed you could come to a post conversion experience in which you momentarily became so totally surrendered that you never sinned again. This is sinless perfection.
One of the popular Quietist writers was Trumble who wrote, "In this condition a Christian does not even experience temptation for it is defeated by Christ before it has time to draw him into a fight."
Think about this. Sinless perfection and no temptation!! But sinless perfection is a myth. Do you know anybody who is sinlessly perfect? I do not. Because if we hold to this view and we sin (and we will), whose fault is it? It cannot be our fault because we have surrendered
The Absolute View: 🙂💯👍👉👉
Kubo argues that the affirmations of 3:6-9 must be interpreted absolutely. In other words, sinning in this context is an absolute impossibility for those born of God, and to deny this is to weaken the point being made by the author. To resolve the tension between this text and 1:8-9, Kubo contends that what the author is rejecting in 1:8-9 is the claim of sinlessness made by those who walk in darkness. It is not inappropriate for those who walk in the light to make such a claim. However, this stands in contradiction to:
My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Yeshua Christ the righteous. He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:1-2 ESV
Believers, don't sin, but if you do, we have an advocate who is Jesus Christ 😉😉
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