Hugs, i have a question for you about Grace and Peace.
Paul in the New covenant uses the greeting 'Grace and Peace' 11 times, when he addresses the belivers in Messiah.
Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
With this greeting, Paul says that 'Grace and Peace' come to a believer from the Father AND Yashua.
Paul obviously shows that the Grace and Peace that come from both the Father and Messiah is the same Grace and Peace, yet the Father and Messiah are two separate persons, each INDEPENDANT from one another, and each not depending upon the other for their existence.
Hugs, how then do you believe the Father and Yashua are the same person.
IDOL worshipper 'littledavid' thinks everyone should be on this forum 24/7 like him??? For he has nothing else to do but to seek self recognition to himself, his own false teacher!
What is this IDOL worshipper you may be asking readers that 'littledavid' identifies in his own posts convicting himself - QUOTE 'his >>>the holy doctrine of the Trinity<<<' he clearly says!
That's right folks he worships the 'Trinity' and CULTLY says its 'holy' when the Bible says NOTHING of that PAGAN word!
First of all Quiz, its great to see you finally NOT calling Father YHWH by the 'name' ('god' ALMIGHTY) of another diety that does not exist anyway because there is only ONE true YHWH ALMIGHTY that does singularly exist originally and there is no other in the beginning according to the Bible, right? But can Father YHWH transform a PART of His original self and put it
in a human/person body? Certainly according to the Bible! Correct? So what was Father YHWH in the beginning, >before and during< Creation WEEK, that RESTED from His 'work' He did (the other 6 Days before) on the 7th Day Sabbath, an entire 12 hour Day for rest and made it HOLY and SANCTIFIED!?
Deuteronomy 4:35,39 Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the MASTER He is YHWH; there is none else beside Him...... that the MASTER He is YHWH in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is >>>NONE ELSE<<<.'
Isaiah 46:9 'remember the former things of old; for I am YHWH, and there is >>>NO OTHER<<<no other; I am YHWH, and there is >>>NONE<<< like me!'
Quiz, you post a verse from Paul without its location in the Bible... There are MANY recognized and the standard Pauline greetings he uses to his >>>converts<<< for instance in his 13 canonical letters (Rom 1:7; 1 Cor 1:3; 2 Cor 1:2; Gal 1:3; Eph 1:2; Phil 1:2; Col 1:2; 1 Thess 1:1; 2 Thess 1:2; 1 Tim 1:2; 2 Tim 1:2; Titus 1:4; Philem 3).
For just two examples - 2 Corinthians 1:2 AMP Grace to you and peace [inner calm and spiritual well-being] from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
“Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.” (Romans 1:7, ESV)
Paul, as is his habit, uses the Hebrew greeting and blessing, then applies it to a mixed group of believers (Jew and Gentile >>>converts<<< to Torah Law) yet injects it with theological meaning.
So Quiz, IS and DOES Father YHWH take a PART of Himself, His WORD (John 1) and turn that WORD into flesh, so that this very PART of Himself NOW in HUMAN flesh is able to be a substitute for the rest of us 'that had sinned' (present tense at the time we were sinners) and DIE for us? Does that not make sense to you, that Father YHWH can be two or more places at the same time - omnipresent???
So YES, just as Paul greeting to his >>>converts<<< to Torah Law, Paul says that 'Grace and Peace' come to a TRUE believer (obedient to Torah Law) from Father YHWH >AND< by and thru His Son Yah'shua, that He made in HUMAN flesh, to represent His spoken WORD and not ONLY that but to DIE for our sins in that made HUMAN Son Yah'shua in MORTAL flesh! Right?
So then YES Father YHWH 'separated' a PART of Himself that was always with Him, always existed, His spoken WORD and put it NOW in HUMAN flesh as a 'persons/soul' and Father
YHWH is 'two' in that sense! But NOT three! Correct?
Quiz, you seem to have trouble understanding CONTEXT of Scripture that indeed that BOTH Father YHWH and His made HUMAN Son Yah'shua in MORTAL flesh ARE 'INDEPENDANT' as you say but you don't give the CONTEXT that the HUMAN Son Yah'shua in MORTAL >from Father YHWH< and not IMMORTAL like Father YHWH is and Yah'shua still is 'dependent' upon His Father to exist, just like we other HUMANS will always be!
So you finally ask me - how can you believe the Father and Yashua are the same person?
Simple, Father YHWH has CHOSEN to take that SPOKEN PART of Himself (its still Him, right?) he calls His WORD from Himself, MADE IT INTO HUMAN FLESH because of His
LOVE for us, to die for us and THEREFORE His HUMAN WORD NOW, Yah'shua are STILL ONE and the SAME because its STILL the Father's WORD, just NOW represented in HUMAN flesh!!! Can you grasp that simple understanding apart from FALSE doctrine from the majority of CULT 'churches' taking Scripture out of CONTEXT???
ANOTHER even more HILARIOUS TeddyBug POST😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣‼️‼️‼️‼️
Now GET THIS‼️‼️ Spoiler alert here‼️‼️
So now we have The “ELDER” TeddyBugs, (Elder-Bugs, if you prefer), who has just taken his “student”, the Quiz, to woodshed‼️‼️‼️
BTW, the TeddyBug claims he is an “ELDER” in his church‼️‼️‼️
FOLKS YOU CANT MAKE THIS STUFF UP‼️‼️‼️‼️
Does the ELDER TeddyBug’s church have an EXTREMELY LOW standard for eldership OR WHAT⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️🥸🥸🥸
What do you have to teach in order to qualify as an “elder” in a TeddyBug false church anyway⁉️⁉️
Well. Maybe the first thing you must teach, without hesitation in order to became an “elder” at the TeddyBug church, is believe the earth is Flat⁉️⁉️⁉️ Right⁉️⁉️⁉️Then, you probably HAVE to accept TorahTeddyBug’s NUMEROUS false teachings hook-line-and-sinker about the Torah AND keep the Old Testament symbols, like the Sabbath—as if these symbols are the real thing ‼️‼️‼️
Sorry folks for the interlude.
But—Let’s watch as this fascinating TeddyBug soap (dope) opera—“As The Teddy Turns”, continues to unfold‼️‼️‼️
So, will the Quiz finally yield to his TeddyBug wanna be advisor or will the Quiz resist and stand his ground⁉️⁉️
EMPTY GLOBE head tinydavid thinks just because a person agrees on one subject, then they agree in all ! Folks you just cannot make this stuff up by his hallucinations! For example, tinydavid and CULTISTrsvp keep the CULT PAGAN day of SUNday to worship their 'god' of BAAL just like 'jehovah witnesses' do, right? So according to ELDERdavid of the JW 'church' he MUST agree with everything else they teach, right??? Such is the LOGIC of the spinning, wobbling, tilting empty sphere headed lads like tinydavid and CULTISTrsvp are! Right readers???
Lets look at some more of his LOGIC, shall we? Tinydavid says - QUOTE 'the Torah AND keep the Old Testament symbols, like the Sabbath' end quote, is just another OT symbol, so therefore the other six DAYS of CREATION are symbols and NOTHING was really created like, the sun. moon and stars, nor land, animals, humans etc!!! Folks you just cannot make this stuff up by his hallucinations, can you!?
Then he tries to apologize (steps into the barnyard GIZE) saying - 'Sorry folks for the interlude.' when he should say - Sorry folks for the interRUDE because this thread is to me NOT other inconsiderate wanna be 'christians' living in continual sin like he is, right?
But can Father YHWH transform a PART of His original self and put it 
Certainly according to the Bible! 
Correct? So what was Father YHWH in the beginning, >before and during< Creation WEEK, that RESTED from His 'work' He did (the other 6 Days before) on the 7th Day Sabbath, an entire 12 hour Day for rest and made it HOLY and SANCTIFIED!? 
that indeed that BOTH Father YHWH and His made HUMAN Son Yah'shua in MORTAL flesh ARE 'INDEPENDANT' as you say but you don't give the CONTEXT that the HUMAN Son Yah'shua in MORTAL >from Father YHWH< and not IMMORTAL like Father YHWH is and Yah'shua still is 'dependent' upon His Father to exist, just like we other HUMANS will always be! 
Such is the LOGIC of the spinning, wobbling, tilting empty sphere headed lads like tinydavid and CULTISTrsvp are! 
Right readers??? 
Tinydavid says - QUOTE 'the Torah AND keep the Old Testament symbols, like the Sabbath'