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🤔🤔 Isaiah 9:6 Is Jesus the Everlasting Father ❓❓
Posted : 11 Jan, 2022 07:45 AM

" the TRUTH on WHO the Messiah Yah'shua actually >>>IS<<< but the FATHER IN THE FLESH and THAT IS WHY Isaiah 9:6 and John chapter 1 in its CONTEXT tells us that the Messiah Yah'shua is ACTUALLY the EVERLASTING FATHER in the flesh! " ☹️☹️ teddy bugs



Oneness Pentecostal believers deny the Trinity and teach that Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are all one person. They sometimes quote Isaiah 9:6 in their attempt to prove their position. However, Isaiah 9:6 cannot be used to disprove the Trinity nor bolster their Oneness doctrine.



“For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us, and the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6).



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When Isaiah 9:6 says that Jesus’ name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, etc., it is not saying that Jesus is the eternal Father, but that he has the characteristics of God. In other words, Jesus has all the attributes of God–including eternality.



In ancient Jewish culture, names had meanings. We can better understand this by noting American Indian names such as “Running Wolf” or “Fighting Bear.” The same with Jewish names. They had meanings. Isaac, for example, means “laughter.” Noah means “rest” or “peace.” So, when Isaiah is speaking of the name of the coming Messiah and says his name will be Mighty God, Eternal Father, etc., it is telling us about the characteristics of the Messiah to come in a prophetic manner.



If Jesus’ name is “Eternal Father,” then why don’t we call Jesus “Eternal Father” ❓❓ For that matter, why don’t we call his name “Wonderful Counselor” or “Mighty God” or “Prince of Peace” ❓❓ None of these phrases are used of Jesus in the New Testament. Why is that if it is ‘name’ ❓❓



Furthermore, the text speaks of a name (singular), yet has four things revealed in the name. Again, this shows us that it is the characteristics of the then-coming Messiah. The fact that the Messiah would be divine is verified in Heb. 1:3 when it says, “And He [Jesus] is the radiance of His [God] glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power…” This also explains why Jesus said, “…He who has seen Me has seen the Father,” (John 14:9). It was because Jesus so precisely represented God the Father as His prophesied name reveals.



Furthermore, the Oneness Pentecostal people assert that God’s name is really “Jesus.” If that is true and if Jesus is the Eternal Father as they claim, then why don’t they call Jesus “The Eternal Father” as His name ❓❓ Does it also mean the mode that God is in right now is that of the Father since His name is “Eternal Father” implying He is always the Father❓❓ If that is taken literally, then God is the Eternal Father; and the true person of the Godhead is the Father–not the Son as the Oneness people assert.



☹️💯👎 The Oneness Pentecostal theology is incorrect and improperly describes the true and living God



If God is only one person, why did Jesus say in John 14:23, “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” If God is only one person, why does Jesus say, “ WE ” ❓❓😉😉

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🤔🤔 Isaiah 9:6 Is Jesus the Everlasting Father ❓❓
Posted : 11 Jan, 2022 01:54 PM

The TeddyBug, like other false teachers, think the word “father” means EXACTLY the same thing in EVERY biblical context it appears.

For example. The TeddyBug thinks the term “Everlasting Father”, used in one context, means exactly the same thing as “God the Father” when used in a totally different unrelated context‼️‼️

It’s high time the TeddyBug cut the apron strings with his false cult leader and began to study the Bible for himself.

He might find out that the words have different meanings when used in different places.

For example. In some places of the Bible, Satan is referred to as a “lion”. In other places, Jesus is referred to as a “lion”.

But applying silly TeddyBug logic to a false consist use of the word “lion”, Jesus and Satan would have to be exactly the same person‼️‼️‼️

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