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REFUTING HALO HARRY BETHEL AND THE DOM’s FALSE NARRATIVE THAT DENIES THE HUMANNESS OF JOHN THE BAPTIST
Posted : 31 Dec, 2021 04:23 PM

Very important to take note.

See if you can see how HALO HARRY BETHEL distorts the biblical narrative of the imprisoned John the Baptist. Then read the actual story in the Bible for yourself.

Then take note of the ever so subtle shift found in the false account of false teacher HALO HARRY BETHEL’s story as compared to the actual text.

BTW, HALO HARRY believes certain people wore a halo‼️‼️‼️

YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP‼️‼️‼️‼️





Did John the Baptist lose his faith in Jesus as the Messiah (Matthew 11:3; Luke 7:19)?

John the Baptist doubt

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In John 1:29, John the Baptist declared of Jesus, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world.” John the Baptist also said of Jesus, “The strap of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie” (John 1:27), and, “I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?” (Matthew 3:14). It is clear that John the Baptist recognized Jesus to be the Messiah and had faith in Him.

However, later, as recorded in Matthew 11:3 and Luke 7:19, John the Baptist sent messengers to Jesus to ask Him, “Are you the one who is to come, or should we expect someone else?” What happened? Why was John the Baptist doubting whether Jesus was the Messiah? There are two key points to remember. First, John the Baptist had been thrown in prison by Herod (Matthew 11:2; Luke 3:20). John had perhaps been in prison for over a year when he asked his question. He likely knew that he would eventually be executed, which he was shortly after he sent the message to Jesus (Matthew 14:1–12). Second, Jesus was not being received as the Messiah by the majority of Israelites. Jesus was being strongly rejected by the leaders of Israel: the Pharisees, the Sadducees, and the Sanhedrin. Amid these circumstances, it is understandable that John the Baptist would have some doubts.

Jesus’ response is telling. He tells John’s messengers to inform John of the miracles being performed (Matthew 11:4–5). He then proceeds to praise John the Baptist: “What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind? What then did you go out to see? A man dressed in soft clothing? Behold, those who wear soft clothing are in kings’ houses. What then did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, and more than a prophet. This is he of whom it is written, ‘Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare your way before you.’ Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist” (Matthew 11:7–11; Luke 7:21–27).

There was no rebuke of John the Baptist from Jesus. Jesus knew John, loved John, and understood the trial John was enduring. Jesus’ response to John the Baptist’s doubt is a perfect example of Matthew 12:20, “A bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out.”

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REFUTING HALO HARRY BETHEL AND THE DOM’s FALSE NARRATIVE THAT DENIES THE HUMANNESS OF JOHN THE BAPTIST
Posted : 31 Dec, 2021 06:44 PM

There isn't a single true born again, spirit filled Christian today that if thrown in prison for the word of God would ever have any doubt that Jesus is the Christ.



But John the Baptist, meeting Him in person, actually seeing the Holy Spirit descend on Him and knowing that he himself was the one crying in the wilderness prophesied in Malachi did doubt?

Little David, you didn't make John the Baptizer "human" you made him apostate and wicked.

Pathetic!

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Posted : 1 Jan, 2022 04:07 AM

goodness dom_64 you couldn't hit water if you fell off the Titanic ❗❗ are you kidding us ❓❓ there are plenty of seasoned Christians out there who have gone through fiery trials outside of prison sentences who have had doubts about their faith in Jesus Christ



I myself have been homeless eight of the last 13 years even now sleeping on a sidewalk in a very let's say undesirable area and have struggled with my faith because of it



2 Timothy 2:13 if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself



🙂👍💯 But alas I'm in good company here's some example of some other Bible characters who likewise have struggled with their faith



1. The One Who Was too Afraid

God’s people, the Israelites, were slaves in Egypt for centuries and cried out to Him for help. God answered their prayers through Moses, who had fled Egypt to the wilderness. While tending his sheep, he witnessed an amazing phenomenon—a burning bush not being consumed. When he came closer God spoke to him saying, “I have indeed seen the misery of my people in Egypt. I have heard them crying out because of their slave drivers, and I am concerned about their suffering. So I have come to rescue them...So now, go. I am sending you to Pharaoh to bring my people the Israelites out of Egypt.” (Exodus 3:7-10)



Moses argued with God, revealing his insecurity:



“Who am I that I should go?” he asked. God responded, “I will be with you and promise to bring you to worship on this mountain.” (Exodus 3:11-12)

“What if they do not believe me or listen to me?” God demonstrated he would use miracles and signs to show proof. (Exodus 4:1-9)

“I have never been eloquent...I am slow of speech and tongue.” God responded, “Who gave human beings their mouths?... Is it not I, the LORD? Now go; I will help you and teach you what to say.” (Exodus 4:10-12)

Moses ended with, “Please send someone else” (Exodus 4:13). He still wouldn’t believe he was enough for this assignment. Although angry, God showed Moses grace by sending his brother, Aaron, to speak for him. Moses obeyed and God did great and wondrous works through him and delivered His people from slavery in Egypt.



Moses, who felt totally inadequate, eventually led his people to freedom doing miracles along the way. This biblical account demonstrates how God’s calling in our lives does not depend on our abilities but our obedience. God equips the one who obeys Him.





2. The One Who Felt too Weak

The Israelites were suffering under the oppression of the Midianites. God sent an angel to Gideon, who was threshing wheat in secret so the enemy couldn’t steal it. Scripture tells us, “When the angel appeared to Gideon, he said, ‘The Lord is with you, mighty warrior.’” Gideon responded, “If the LORD is with us, why has all this happened to us?...The LORD has abandoned us” (Judges 6:11-13).



The angel persisted saying, “Go in the strength you have and save Israel out of Midian’s hand. Am I not sending you?” (Judges 6:14)



Gideon replied, “’How can I save Israel? My clan is the weakest in Manasseh, and I am the least in my family’ The LORD answered, ‘I will be with you, and you will strike down all the Midianites, leaving none alive’” (Judges 6:15-16).



Gideon felt too weak for this task. Twice he asked God to give him a sign proving His power and He graciously answered. Gideon then obeyed and delivered his people (Judges 6 and 7).



While initially fearful, Gideon became a mighty warrior who rescued God’s people. This account reminds us that God understands our doubts and fears. He uses our weaknesses to lead us to depend on Him, and then through our weaknesses, we experience His strength.





3. The One Who Felt too Young

God said to the prophet Jeremiah, “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”



Jeremiah answered, “Alas, Sovereign LORD...I do not know how to speak; I am too young” (Jeremiah 1:5-6).



Jeremiah felt inadequate to be a prophet. He believed in God but doubted He could use him. The LORD encouraged him saying, “Do not say, ‘I am too young.’ You must go to everyone I send you to and say whatever I command you. Do not be afraid of them, for I am with you and will rescue you” (Jeremiah 1:7-8). God then touched Jeremiah’s mouth and told him He would give him whatever words he needed.



For forty years, Jeremiah served God and warned His people of an upcoming Babylonian attack and captivity.



Jeremiah who doubted his abilities, served as one of God’s greatest prophets. His story teaches us though we may fear failure, when we move forward in faith, God works through us to fulfill His purpose.



And many more ❗❗ so you see Dom_64 we simply need to believe what the Bible says and not the words of false prophets and false teachers

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REFUTING HALO HARRY BETHEL AND THE DOM’s FALSE NARRATIVE THAT DENIES THE HUMANNESS OF JOHN THE BAPTIST
Posted : 1 Jan, 2022 11:25 AM

GREAT POST RSVP‼️‼️‼️‼️

I’ve learned long ago about the futility of trying to separate a blind follower from their blind guides.

The main reason for refuting false belief is to save others from being tricked by such nonsense.

Hopefully readers will discern Dom’s blind follower-ship with HALO HARRY and read the Bible to see for themselves how Dom’s false teacher, HALO HARRY (yes, he teaches halos) distorts scripture in order to make scripture fit his false narratives.

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REFUTING HALO HARRY BETHEL AND THE DOM’s FALSE NARRATIVE THAT DENIES THE HUMANNESS OF JOHN THE BAPTIST
Posted : 1 Jan, 2022 11:27 AM

Dom, what’s “pathetic” is you following your false teacher, HALO HARRY into whatever false doctrine he happens to be leading you.

What’s even more “pathetic” is when your false teacher, HALO HARRY, invents a false narrative about John the Baptist’s disciples being sent by John on a mission other than that which is clearly stated in the text.

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REFUTING HALO HARRY BETHEL AND THE DOM’s FALSE NARRATIVE THAT DENIES THE HUMANNESS OF JOHN THE BAPTIST
Posted : 1 Jan, 2022 12:37 PM

Wrong guys! There is a difference between disobedience, or feeling afraid, etc.... and not being certain that Jesus is the Christ.

A Christian may go through many trials and tribulation but never doubt that Jesus is the son of God.

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REFUTING HALO HARRY BETHEL AND THE DOM’s FALSE NARRATIVE THAT DENIES THE HUMANNESS OF JOHN THE BAPTIST
Posted : 1 Jan, 2022 01:41 PM

CULTISTrsvp slanders and insults Dom_64 when he states - 'goodness dom_64 you couldn't hit water if you fell off the Titanic are you kidding us there are plenty of seasoned Christians out there who have gone through >>>fiery trials<<< outside of prison sentences who have had >>>doubts about their faith in Jesus Christ<<<'



Where is the quotes of her doing so LIAR CULTISTrsvp??? Post them for us readers, other than YOU READING into her posts!



FACT is the rest of us readers see her as saying even before her clarification in her last post!!! GEESH!



One thing you do have right is your 'homeless(ness)' from heaven (for probably more than 13 years and counting?) presently, by your false doctrine that is and because your REBELLION from Torah Law which is the foundation to Father YHWH'S government! There won't be ANY 'sidewalks' to 'sleep' on come judgment Day except for the LAST sleep of death in the 'bed' of ashes of which there is NO resurrection! NOW THAT IS an 'undesirable area' to 'sleep' in, right readers???

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Posted : 1 Jan, 2022 01:49 PM

LIARuntilprovendavid writes - 'See if you can see how HARRY BETHEL distorts the biblical narrative of the imprisoned John the Baptist. Then read the actual story in the Bible for yourself. Then take note of the ever so >subtle shift< found in the 'false' account of 'false' teacher HARRY BETHEL’s story as compared to the actual text'...... which text is - 'Did John the Baptist lose his faith in Jesus as the Messiah (Matthew 11:3; Luke 7:19)?'



So false accuser, where is the quote of Harry Bethel saying 'John the Baptist lost his faith in Jesus as the Messiah' ??? Is this not the purpose in this thread to do so instead of quoting your PAGAN god of got questions (provide mostly CULT answers!) for readers to read when THIS IS A DICUSSION FORUM not a 'got questions' forum - providing mostly CULT answers from your COVETED website!



Until you provide the actual quotes of Harry Bethel saying so, YOU REMAIN A LIAR and a HAIRY one (by your caveman picture of you (???) posted before anyway!) or at least until then, as we have CAUGHT you LYING before in other threads!

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Posted : 1 Jan, 2022 03:25 PM

" presently, by your false doctrine that is and because your REBELLION from Torah Law which is the foundation to Father YHWH'S government! " 👹👹 teddy bugs



🙂😉 If breaking the Sabbath was punishable by death in the Old Testament (Exodus 31:14 & 35:2), why is it not condemned in any way, shape, or form in the New Testament❓❓ Various passages in the New Testament list numerous types of sinners who will not inherit the kingdom (see 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, 1 Timothy 1:9-10, and Revelation 21:8 & 22:15), but none of those lists ever mention Sabbath-breakers nor in regards to keeping kosher dietary laws Why is that ❓❓



⚠️⚠️ looks to me like this versus speaking about teddy bugs and his hyper hebrew Roots movement people too



Luke 11:46

"Woe to you as well, experts in the law!" He replied. "You weigh men down with heavy burdens, but you yourselves will not lift a finger to lighten their load

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REFUTING HALO HARRY BETHEL AND THE DOM’s FALSE NARRATIVE THAT DENIES THE HUMANNESS OF JOHN THE BAPTIST
Posted : 2 Jan, 2022 07:25 AM

First of all CULTISTrsvp (the PAGAN 'holiday' keeper of LIES! ), where did I even mention THE ONE AND ONLY >>>holy and sanctified<<< 7th Day Sabbath in my post to you, you quoted above? Your conscience bothering you about that HOLY Day made on the 7th day of ending Creation week? You could choose to bring any of the 10 commandments into question of breaking but you choose the 4th one, that is the 7th Day Sabbath commandment! Fine then. Does not the Bible say if you break one then you have broke them all junior??? Do you REBEL from the other 9 inseparable commandments that certainly are NOT suggestions to keep?



Finally you seem to be always be HUNG UP on wanting YHWH to constantly remind you in the NT part of the Bible to give you an example of somebody NOT keeping the 7th Day Sabbath, as if to imply because its not 'condemned in any way, shape, or form in the New Testament' that it somehow just vanished away??? REALLY CULTISTrsvp, an ENTIRE 12 hour 7th Day Sabbath of CREATION that begun being MADE >>>HOLY and SANCTIFIED<<< by YHWH just vanished away??? Its really quite clear your like a REBELLING child that has to be TOLD OVER AND OVER again to keep the Sabbath, when ALL THROUGHOUT the New Testament they are ALL KEEPING IT, including GENTILES, SOOOOOOOO why would YHWH need to discipline ANYONE for not keeping it!!!??? GEESH, you have any common sense and reasoning dude???



In closing you are also HUNG UP on this 'hyper hebrew Roots movement' thingy but FAIL to QUESTION and tell readers the MESSIAH WAS HEBREW and to FOLLOW Him is to have MOVEMENT in doing so and that would certainly would be the ROOT cause of doing so because HE KEPT the 7th Day Sabbath commandment >>>AND<<< as an example to us!!!



GEESH, even a >>>NON<<< REBELLING child would tell you this! Right readers?



So what does your OUT OF CONTEXT Luke 11:46 verse posted have to do with your REBELLING of keeping the 7th Day Sabbath commandment my laddy boy??? Nothing right, because its CONTEXT in that chapter is about legalism of the pharisees (FAIR-U-SEE?) and the washing of 'cups and platters' (verse 39) and the lawyers (LY-ERS in verse 46) that would not even help carry a burden for anyone! NOTHING even mentioned of the >>>holy and sanctified<<< 7th Day Sabbath in the verse you provided but we know from other verses in the Bible the pharisees (FAIR-U-SEE?) were trying to make a LEGALIST thing about the >>>holy and sanctified<<< 7th Day Sabbath and WHAT you can do on that HOLY Day, right?



You might want to give this all a second look after you return 'home on the street' from your worship of the SUN 'god' BAAL on SUNday today, ok?

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REFUTING HALO HARRY BETHEL AND THE DOM’s FALSE NARRATIVE THAT DENIES THE HUMANNESS OF JOHN THE BAPTIST
Posted : 2 Jan, 2022 09:02 PM

TeddyBug, slow down, take in a deep breath and a chill pill under a Christmas tree or in Santa’s sled or something.

We just so hyper-excited‼️‼️‼️ 😵😵😵

Try again later when you can write something that’s not unintelligible. 🤓🥸

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