Women are NOT part of the Church nor are they part of the body of Christ
Posted : 28 Dec, 2021 08:00 AM
“You shall speak all these words to them, but they will not listen to you;...Jer 7:27
WHAT IS THE CHURCH?
Virtually all pastors embrace and teach Satan's lie that women are part of the Church.
The Greek word used for "church" in the New Testament is ekklesia (pronounced ek-klay-see'-ah) and in the KJV is translated "church," "churches," or "assembly." In other translations it is sometimes rendered "congregation." The word ekklesia comes from ek, "out of" and klesis, "a calling." There was a falling away from truth near the end of Paul's ministry, and more definitely by the time of the writing of the Book of Revelation. Jesus rebuked five of seven churches in chapters two and three approximately 95 A.D. They were composed of true Christians, and this rebuke was recorded about 65 years after Pentecost. There never has been a full recovery from the falling away.
Women who have been born again are Christians, they are saints, they are believers, they are daughters of Abraham, they are part of the elect, they are joint-heirs with Christ, they are children of God, and they are heirs of God.
One truth that has been overlooked for many centuries is that Christian women are all the things mentioned above, but they are not part of the Church. The Church (universal) and local churches are composed of male believers only, the brethren. Women are not part of the ekklesia.
Concerning the rapture on the last day when Jesus returns, the Scriptures nowhere teach that the "Church," per se, will be raptured. It is the saints that will be raptured---which includes women.
Christ is the Head of the Church (Eph. 5:23). And God said through the apostle Paul, "...I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man [not Christ]...." (1 Cor. 11:3).
The plain teaching of the Scriptures is that Christ is the head of man but not the head of woman. Women are not part of the Church of which Christ is the head. The head of the woman is man.
Paul continues, "...Forasmuch as he [the man, not the woman] is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man....Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man" (1 Cor 11:7, 9). "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband [not Christ] is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church...Therefore as the church [the brethren] is subject unto Christ, so let wives be to their own husbands in every thing" (Eph. 5:22-24).
According to the Word of God, women are not part of a church. They are, however, by virtue of their physical presence, part of a congregation when it is assembled.
In the apostle Paul's first and second epistle to "the church of the Thessalonians" he addressed only the brethren (men). The "brethren" (adelphos) does not include sisters (adelphe). In the first epistle to the church in Thessalonica, Paul addressed the brethren 15 times, and in the second epistle he addressed the brethren seven times.
In the epistle of James "to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad" it was to the universal Church of that time which consisted almost exclusively of Jewish Christian men. Therefore, there are no addresses to women in the epistle, but there are 15 to the "brethren."
Likewise, in the epistle to "the churches of Galatia" Paul addressed the brethren nine times, but had nothing to say to women because they were not part of the churches of Galatia.
None of these epistles to churches included any addresses to women. Women were addressed in the epistles only if the letters were not written exclusively to the churches (the brethren).
In other words, epistles addressed to churches only, were to men only. Women were included only when they were addressed, for example, to "the saints which are at Ephesus." The saints at Ephesus included men and women. Paul addressed wives in 5:22 and children in 6:1.
Again, women who are believers are Christians, they are children of God, they are saints, and they are joint-heirs with Christ, but they are not part of the ekklesia composed of the brethren.
The epistle to the Romans was addressed "to all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints" (Rom. 1:7) which included women, but in that letter when Paul directed his words specifically to the men, he said, "I beseech you therefore, brethren...we, being many, are one body in Christ" (Rom. 12:1, 5).
Women are not part of the Body of Christ which is the Church. Paul wrote, "Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant...For by one Spirit are we [the brethren] all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free...Now ye [brethren] are the body of Christ" (1 Cor. 12:1, 13, 27).
Paul does not here include "male or female" when writing of spiritual gifts of those in the Body of Christ, because what he writes only pertains to the brethren. Paul does mention, however, in Galatians 3:26-29 that concerning salvation (being spiritually baptized into the Spirit of Christ) there is no distinction, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."
Females, of course, can be born again and have the Spirit of Christ in them and they can be in the Spirit of Christ, but they are not in the Body of Christ which is altogether masculine.
Women are not part of the universal Church which is the Body of Christ nor are they part of a local church which is (or should be) a picture of the universal Church. (Of course, there are no scripturally organized local churches in these last days of apostasy).
Women are not to hold the office of bishop, elder, or deacon. They are not to teach or usurp authority over men, they are to remain silent in the midst of the churches. Paul wrote, "How is it then brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine...Let your women keep silence in the churches [assemblies]" (1 Cor. 14:26, 34).
It is a commandment of the Lord, who is the Head of the Church, for women to be silent in the churches. Christ said through Paul, "Let your women keep silence in the churches: [the same Greek word for "silence" is used in Acts 22:2, "And when they heard that he spake in the Hebrew tongue to them, they kept the more silence"] for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. [Genesis 3:16 says, And thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.] And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands [Gk. aner, "man"] at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church [assembly]...The things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord" (1 Cor. 14: 34-35, 37).
Paul also told Timothy, who was overseeing the church in Ephesus, "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not [do not allow] a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" (1 Tim. 2:11-12).
Sunday School (with men and women teachers) is a relatively new concept and was not found in the Church for the first 1700 years. However, in the homes the older women should "teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed" (Titus 2:4-5).
When Christ chose the Twelve Apostles, He chose men. And when He chose the Seventy to go out, He chose men. Likewise, when the apostles summoned the "brethren" (Acts 6:3) to choose some to take care of the daily distribution of food to the widows, they did not choose women to fill this office, rather they chose seven men.
A local church consisted of all the brethren within a given locality under (but completely separate from) one local civil government.
A local church, according to the Scriptures, did not have a separate identity such as the Baptist Church, or the Lutheran Church, or the Mennonite Church.
One thing that greatly complicates the issue is not knowing what a scriptural local church really is. A local church was not something that one "joined" like so many secular organizations. Joining a church is a concept that was adopted from the world. A brother was a "member" of the local church (and the universal Church) by virtue of being born again and residing within a given locality. Usually there was several meeting places for one local church. A building in which believers met for worship and fellowship was not called "a church."
References to particular local churches in Scripture are always in regard to the respective city where the brethren are located or to churches (plural) in a province. The Scriptures speak of the local church (singular) in a city, for example, as "the church...at Corinth," (1 Cor. 1:2) or "the church of Ephesus," (Rev. 2:1) or "the church in Sardis" (Rev. 3:1).
A provincial name never was given to the churches. They are referred to, for example, as "the churches of Galatia," or the "churches which are in Asia," rather than "the Galatian church," or "the Asian church" (Gal. 1:2; Rev. 1:4). So, a scriptural concept is either a local church (e.g., Acts 15:41; 1 Cor. 1:2; 4:17; Rev. 2:1) or the universal Church (e.g., Mat. 16:18; 1 Cor. 12:28; Eph. 1:22).
Women are NOT part of the Church nor are they part of the body of Christ
Posted : 28 Dec, 2021 10:05 AM
" Women are not part of the universal Church which is the Body of Christ nor are they part of a local church which is (or should be) a picture of the universal Church. (Of course, there are no scripturally organized local churches in these last days of apostasy). "
☹️💯👎 FALSE
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To understand the difference between the local church and the universal church, one must get a basic definition of each. The local church is a group of professing believers in Jesus Christ who meet in some particular location on a regular basis. The universal church is made up of all believers in Jesus Christ worldwide. The term church is a translation of a Greek word having to do with a meeting together or an “assembly” (1 Thessalonians 2:14; 2 Thessalonians 1:1). This word pertains to the work of God in saving and sanctifying believers as “called-out ones.” Another Greek word that speaks of ownership and literally means “belonging to the Lord” is transliterated as church, but it is only used twice in the New Testament and never in direct reference to the church (1 Corinthians 11:20; Revelation 1:10).
A local church is normally defined as a local assembly of all who profess faith and allegiance to Christ. Most often, the Greek word ekklesia is used in reference to the local assembly (1 Thessalonians 1:1; 1 Corinthians 4:17; 2 Corinthians 11:8). There is not just one specific local church in any one area, necessarily. There are many local churches in larger cities.
The universal church is the name given to the church worldwide. In this case the idea of the church is not so much the assembly itself but those constituting the church. The church is the church even when it is not holding an official meeting. In Acts 8:3, one can see that the church is still the church even when its members are at home. In Acts 9:31, the King James rendering of the plural word churches should actually be the singular church, which describes the universal church, not just local churches. Sometimes the universal church is called the “invisible church”—invisible in the sense of having no street address, GPS coordinates, or physical building and in the sense that only God can see who is truly saved. Of course, the church is never described in Scripture as “invisible,” and, as a city set on a hill, it is surely meant to be visible (Matthew 5:14). Here are more verses that talk about the universal church: 1 Corinthians 12:28; 15:9; Matthew 16:18; Ephesians 1:22-23; Colossians 1:18
⚠️⚠️ there is nothing biblical about saying the women do not belong to the universal church
Women are NOT part of the Church nor are they part of the body of Christ
Posted : 28 Dec, 2021 02:57 PM
Another person posting thier theology, which is from books written by men about the Word of GOD Almighty, but not the Word itself.
Galatians 3 verses 26-29
26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.
Both male and female are heir according to faith, not the law.
The poster needs to read the Scriptures ONLY, not the books of men, as the poster has picked up the understanding of the book writer, not the Word of GOD Almighty.
Women are NOT part of the Church nor are they part of the body of Christ
Posted : 28 Dec, 2021 04:49 PM
Whiz Quiz, it was good to quote Galatians but then you had to spoil it all by inserting man’s writings and thoughts before and after.
Besides that, the Galatians passage doesn’t exactly refute Dom’s false leader’s abuse of biblical terminology since he tries to fallaciously define terminology apart from it’s contextual application