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fix a flat fairy tales ๐Ÿงš episode 27 -- ๐Ÿ‘ฝ๐Ÿ›ธ the outer space two-parter : teddy bugs declares war on ๐ŸŒฒChristmas and theโ˜๏ธ rapture
Posted : 4 Dec, 2021 07:37 AM

๐Ÿ‘ฝ๐Ÿ›ธ there is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. ....................... We repeat: There is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Teddy bugs Outer Limits



โ˜น๏ธ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Ž WRONG ๐Ÿ‘Ž Teddy bugs once again abuses and twists God's word into prohibiting Christmas as well as accusing some of us of holding to a secret rapture which truth is has been known for 2,000 years โ€ผ๏ธ



" Folks, is that really what 'ChristMAS(S)' is about in truth??? Lets let the Bible tell us, shall we! Keep in mind they had no electricity for 'lights' back then, so what are these HEATHEN like PAGANS and CULTISTrsvp doing and really what is CULTISTrsvp telling us about his MODERN PAGAN 'custom' this time of year in 'decorations' (and lights!) as CULTISTrsvp says to 'love' all of them and keep them??? " ๐Ÿ‘น๐Ÿ‘น



๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Žโ˜น๏ธ ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค” NTBSB New Teddy bugs standard Bible โ“โ“

Jeremiah 10:2-5

2. Thus saith the Lord, >>>Learn not the way of the heathen<<< (like CULTIST rsvp!), and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven (and end times!); for the >>>heathen are dismayed<<< at them.

3. For the >>>customs of (CULTIST rsvp!) the people are vain:<<< (in worship times!) for >>>one cutteth a (ChristMASS) tree<<< out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.



โ˜น๏ธ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Ž I'm sure the Lord God doesn't appreciate Teddy bugs tampering with his word โ€ผ๏ธ



Deuteronomy 4 :2

Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you........โ˜น๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž๐Ÿ‘Ž Yet that's what sinless perfectionist commandment keeping teddybugs did with those two verses โ—โ—



๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘ but this passage refers to cutting down trees, chiseling the wood to make an idol, and then decorating the idol with silver and gold for the purpose of bowing down before it to worship it (see also Isaiah 44:9-18). The passage in Jeremiah cannot be taken out of its context and used to make a legitimate argument against Christmas trees



๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค” Have any of you ever met anybody that bow down to a Christmas tree โ“โ“ I sure haven'tโ—โ—





๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘๐ŸŒฒ as a matter of fact when we decorate a Christmas tree we honor our precious Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ hallelujah selah



Bells are played to ring out the joyous news, candles are lit to remind us that Christ is the Light of the world (John 1:4-9), a star is placed on the top of a Christmas tree to remember the Star of Bethlehem, and gifts are exchanged to remind us of the gifts of the Magi to Jesus, the greatest gift of God to mankind

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fix a flat fairy tales ๐Ÿงš episode 27 -- ๐Ÿ‘ฝ๐Ÿ›ธ the outer space two-parter : teddy bugs declares war on ๐ŸŒฒChristmas and theโ˜๏ธ rapture
Posted : 4 Dec, 2021 08:06 AM

Part 2๏ธโƒฃ โ˜น๏ธ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Ž the so-called secret rapture ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธโ€โ™‚๏ธ๐Ÿ•ถ๏ธ



" Your soooo right Quiz, The people have been deceived by 'church doctrine' such as the >>>secret<<< 'rapture' and therefore '2nd coming' but that actual 'doctrine' comes from the cathoholic 'church' as their distraction from identifying them yet today, as that 'system' as you say Quiz, unlike the past of Church history that always did! " ๐Ÿ‘น๐Ÿ‘น



๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค” Comes from the Catholic Church โ“โ“



WRONG โ˜น๏ธ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Ž the pre-trip rapture position predates the Catholic Church by centuries โ“โ“ โ—โ—



The word ekpheugo is used to mean escape, especially avoidance of eternal

punishment, by Ignatius of Antioch (d. 110) in his Epistle of Trallianeos.2.1 and Justin

Martyr in his Dialogue with Trypho.138.3 and First Apology.68.2.

24 Apostasia is used as

meaning departure by the apocryphal apocalyptic book of Domitio Mariae. Apostasis is

used to mean departure by Clement of Alexandria in his stromateis.4.22.

25 The Greek

words relating to rapture not used at all by the Fathers are: epairo, poreuomai, allasso,

and sozo.

As can be seen from the above citations, the Fathers had an understanding of the

concept of rapture, referred to the Old Testament raptures of Enoch and Elijah and the

New Testament raptures of Paul, John, and Jesus, and even made eight specific

references to the rapture of Christians



The next reference is found in The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles (The

Didache), written in the ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰ mid-second century, and with the help of the footnotes paints a

clear picture of the chronology of events of the End Times (Rapture, Antichrist,

Tribulation, Second Coming). In chapter 16, verses 3-8, it says [emphasis added],

For in the last days false prophets and corrupters shall be multiplied, and the

sheep shall be turned into wolves, and love shall be turned into hate; for when

lawlessness increaseth, they shall hate and persecute and betray one another, and

then shall appear the world-deceiver as Son of God, and shall do signs and wonders, and the earth shall be delivered into his hands, and he shall do

iniquitous things which have never yet come to pass since the beginning. Then

shall the creation of men come into the fire of trial, and many shall be made to

stumble and shall perish; but they that endure in their faith shall be saved from

under the curse itself. And then shall appear the signs of the truth; first the sign of

an outspreading of heaven; then the sign of the sound of the trumpet; and the

third, the resurrection of the dead; yet not of all, but as it is said: The Lord shall

come and all his saints with Him. Then shall the world see the Lord coming upon

the clouds of heaven.

32

Notice, the context is the Last Days and the quote starts out with the signs of the times,

coinciding with Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. Next, the appearance of the

antichrist and the Tribulation are addressed. Then, there comes the exclusionary โ€œbut,โ€

they that endure in their faith shall be saved from under the curse itself. The footnote in

the text after this statement says, โ€œfrom under the curse itself; namely, that which has just

been described.โ€33 ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰ This is a direct reference to the Church being saved from the

Tribulation



๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘



Secret rapture is a term frequently used as a pejorative by those who deny the idea that the rapture of the church is separate from the second coming of Christ. Those who believe the rapture and the second coming are one and the same event often use the term secret rapture in derision and refer to those who believe in the rapture as โ€œrapturists.โ€



๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰ โ€œOne-coming believersโ€ who deny the rapture put themselves in conflict with the Bible and biblical scholarship, as well as the majority of the evangelical world. Among the arguments they pose are that the word rapture doesnโ€™t appear in the Bible. While it is true that the English word rapture doesnโ€™t appear, the concept of the rapture of the church is certainly present.



First Thessalonians 4:16โ€“17 (the definitive passage on the rapture of the church) says that the Lord will descend from heaven and the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive and remain will be โ€œcaught up.โ€ The word rapture is derived from rapio (โ€œto catch up or snatch awayโ€), a form of which is found in the Latin Vulgate Bible. To say the rapture wonโ€™t happen because the word isnโ€™t found in Scripture is a specious argument. The phrase second coming isnโ€™t found in the Bible, either, but the reality of it certainly is







Second, the most important aspect of eschatology is not a secret rapture but the absolute certainty of the return of Jesus Christ to the world in the last days (Acts 1:11; Revelation 19:11โ€“16). The timing of that event doesnโ€™t alter the fact that those who belong to Him will enjoy eternal life and those who do not will experience everlasting condemnation (John 3:18). Faith in Christ as the only Savior from sin will distinguish the saved from the unsaved, regardless of our views on the rapture



๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค” again who are we to believe their readers the bible or space cadet teddy bugs โ“โ“๐Ÿ‘ฝ๐Ÿ›ธ

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fix a flat fairy tales ๐Ÿงš episode 27 -- ๐Ÿ‘ฝ๐Ÿ›ธ the outer space two-parter : teddy bugs declares war on ๐ŸŒฒChristmas and theโ˜๏ธ rapture
Posted : 4 Dec, 2021 09:23 AM

Once again, the Quiz and his Bugs Buddy (not to be confused with Bugs Bunny, who is funny on purpose), have succumbed to another embarrassing big reveal.

The facts of history are mercilessly unfriendly to those, like the TeddyBug and his leader the Quiz, who promote their own man-made teachings.

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Posted : 4 Dec, 2021 09:33 AM

Or is the TeddyBug the leader??

Guess it doesnโ€™t matter, but one thing is sure, they both follow their own man-made teachings. They even sprinkle in a few out of context Bible verses to sweeten the rot



Quiz question:

How fast can you say: How many big bad bugs could a Bugs Buddy bug if a Bugs Buddy could bug big bad bugs?

Without making a mistake!!

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fix a flat fairy tales ๐Ÿงš episode 27 -- ๐Ÿ‘ฝ๐Ÿ›ธ the outer space two-parter : teddy bugs declares war on ๐ŸŒฒChristmas and theโ˜๏ธ rapture
Posted : 4 Dec, 2021 10:07 AM

Note dear readers how PAGAN and HEATHEN CULTISTrsvp here ONCE AGAIN starts a new thread in what can be answered in the thread below! Why does he do this, for the attention the immature lad needs to feel like he is some kind of teacher, a PAGAN teacher he is though and CERTAINLY not Biblical! ONCE AGAIN he will expose himself as a false teacher, NEVER proving his point - BACKED up by Scripture of his many 'episodes' of which there are 27 now to his embarrASSment in understanding Scripture and the IDOL worshipper that he is here in this new thread!



So readers! There is nothing wrong with your PAGAN television set. Its just suppose to be TRUE (and it is!) that this time of year on your PAGAN television set, is to go in debt in buying gifts for others, expecting gifts in return because of the MANMADE TRADITION of PAGANISM and then attempt to link it with Christ by telling the LIE that He was born in the PAGAN calendar time of 'december' for crying out loud! Not to forget to mention the MANMADE TRADITION of PAGANISM in putting before the PAGAN IDOL GOD called the 'ChristMASS tree' and under it, before it like an offering, to like a god!!!??? Its really like giving it gifts only to take them back and open up the gifts on ChristMASS morning to yourselves! Folks, you just cannot make this stuff up! Right before your eyes the PAGAN and HEATHEN like CULTISTrsvp is telling you to cut down trees with an axe (or modern chainsaw) and decorate it (Again Jeremiah 10:4 for evidence for even today), fasten the PAGAN IDOL with nails and with hammer (or PAGAN store bought fixture) so that it stands 'upright' (Again Jeremiah 10:5 for evidence of even today) like a proud PAGAN god in your home or CULT 'church' you witness today and put gifts UNDER IT!



Mooncakes correctly says in another thread below - 'Jesus was not born on December 25. < (A TRUTHFUL POST) > 'Believers probably know this' she says and its truth! (by research!).



Do not attempt to adjust the picture. ....................... I repeat: There is nothing wrong with your PAGAN television set demanding you keep the PAGAN FESTIVAL of SUN worship, given by authority of the cathoholic 'church' by their MANMADE TRADITIONS outside Scripture of course, the MODERN day Pharisee's! That's right folks, 'You are about to participate (commanded actually by your TV and shopping malls!) in a great adventure' of DEBT and CULTISM!!! 'You are about to experience (satan's deception of the 'birth of Christ' this time of year) 'the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner' (PAGAN) 'mind to...' CULTISTrsvp 'Outer Limits' of his reading into Scripture PAGAN TRADITIONS that are NOT there!!! 'That kind of foolishness once again bears the ear mark of' CULTISTrsvp 'eisegesis' of Scripture!



More later on CULTISTrsvp accusations of me changing the meaning of Scripture by my OBVIOUS comments in >>>parentheses<<<!!!



CULTISTrsvp on another subject of this thread posts - 'Secret rapture is a term frequently used as a pejorative by those who deny the idea that the >>>rapture of the church is separate from the second coming of Christ.<<< Those who believe the rapture and the second coming are one and the same event often use the term secret rapture in derision and refer to those who believe in the rapture as โ€œrapturists.โ€ '



There is NOTHING secret about the 'rapture' because its a LOUD EVENT for all the world to witness, which is just another modern name for YHWH second coming!!! WHERE in Scripture does it say there is a 'separate rapture of the church' to those at his 'second coming' ?????????????????????????????????????????? SHOW US READERS laddy boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



What your teaching is the cathoholic invention of 4 comings of YHWH with His WORD He made flesh in a HUMAN 'person' on His right hand side (There is no mention of a Holy Spirit 'person' on left hand s ide!) called His only begotten Son from Him the Father!!!



So you are saying -



1st coming, meaning as a human baby.

2nd. a secret 'rapture' of the Church.

3rd. A third coming for newly converted saints that were NOT believers before, to then take to heaven.

4th. A final coming to earth in the New Jerusalem City to its final resting place as the capital of the earth and outside of that Holy City is where the lake of fire is started (Rev. 20:9) and the wicked judged before their own eyes and become ashes (Malachi 4:1-3) after they pay for their own sins themselves unto DEATH!



Is this correct what you teach CULTISTrsvp???

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fix a flat fairy tales ๐Ÿงš episode 27 -- ๐Ÿ‘ฝ๐Ÿ›ธ the outer space two-parter : teddy bugs declares war on ๐ŸŒฒChristmas and theโ˜๏ธ rapture
Posted : 4 Dec, 2021 10:30 AM

โ˜น๏ธ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Ž FALSE โ—โ— teddy bugs will like you to believe that Christmas December 25th comes from pagan origins so let's debunk his assertions



โ˜‘๏ธ We shouldn't celebrate Christmas because the Early Church didn't celebrate it



The first followers of Jesus didn't 'celebrate' Christmas or Easter as such. But they certainly 'remembered' them. The birth of Jesus is recorded in two of the four gospels; and of course Jesus's death and resurrection is in all four - and Jesus himself (and then later Paul who wrote much of the New Testament in the Bible) told us to commemorate and celebrate that.



We know from early records that the early Church formally remembered (celebrated?) the birth of Jesus as early as 125AD - and probably earlier.



The early Christians got the date of December 25th from the date of Easter, when Christians remember the death [and resurrection] of Jesus! You can find out more about the date of Christmas on this page...



John 5:23 states "that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him."



So in celebrating Christmas, I'm honoring God. I want to honour God all year round, but Christmas is a time when we can especially remember the birth of Jesus.



โ˜‘๏ธ December 25th was the 'Birthday' of Mithras

Mithraism was a Roman cult/mystery religion based around a god called Mithras (who was originally an Angelic being from the earlier Zoroastrian religion) in the 1st to the 4th century. The cult was popular among the Roman military.



No one really knows how Mithraism started. It seems to have been a mix of Greek and Persian myths. It was also complex with followers of the cult having access to different levels through initiation ceremonies.



There was also a Roman Festival called Sol Invictus to worship the Sun god 'Sol'. There was a connection between Mithraism and Sol Invictus.



The Roman Emperor dedicated a temple to Sol on December 25th 274. In a Philocalian calendar of 354, there's a festival of 'Natalis Invicti' (the birth of Invictus) on the 25th December.



Over time people then said that Christmas had been 'moved' to the 25th December to 'take over' this 'pagan' date.



However, the main evidence for this seems to have some from a scribbled note in the margin of a 12 century manuscript which mis-understood some very basic facts. (There's also evidence that 'Sol Invictus' might also have happened in October and not December anyway.)



There's no evidence that Mithras had a 'birthday' until the 4th century (at least 200 years after Christmas had been celebrated on December 25th) or any evidence that the 'birth of Mithras' was celebrated on December 25th!



โ˜‘๏ธ December 25th was the 'Birthday' of Tammuz

This 'theory' comes from a pamphlet called 'The Two Babylons - Romanism and its Origins' published in 1853 by a Scottish minister called Alexander Hislop.



Hislop was a fanatical anti-Catholic (and conspiracy theorist) who wanted to prove that the Catholic Church was really a new version of an ancient Babylonian religion. In his writings (and especially that pamphlet) he tried to pull together his theories with 'new' archeology of the day. He made several claims about the origin of the Catholic church and its 'connection' to Babylonian religions and this included lots of things to do with Christmas and Easter.



The problem is - he seems to have either accidentally mis-understood basically all of the archeology and translations (he made lots of 'connections' because some words sound vaguely similar, although they had no connection at all) AND/OR he just made lots of it up.



One of the claims in The Two Babylons is that Tammuz (also known as Dumuzid who was an ancient Mesopotamian god) was connected with Nimrod (who's a rather mysterious figure described as a great-grandson of Noah in the Torah/Bible).



Hislop said that Nimrod married his mother (Semiramis) and they had a child called Tammuz. But he also said that Nimrod and Tammuz were the same person (confusing!).



But the connection between Nimrod (or another god called Ninus) and Semiramis seems to come from Greek legends that were then re-reported by Roman historians. There's no direct evidence from Mesopotamia between Nimrod and Semiramis!



Hislop also claimed that the birth of Tammuz/Nimrod was celebrated on the 25th December.



However, apart from The Two Babylons, THERE IS NO HISTORICAL EVIDENCE that any of this is true!



โ˜‘๏ธ December 25th was the 'Birthday' of Horus

This 'theory' comes from another Victorian 'historian' called Gerald Massey. Like Hislop, Massey wrote some books attempting to link modern western religions to older ones, in his case ones from Egypt. And just like Hislop, Massey got lots of things very wrong!



He somehow came to the conclusion that lots of things about Jesus had really been copied from the stories about the Egyptian sun god Horus.



Massey claimed that Horus was born to a virgin. But he wasn't! Horus's mother was the goddess Isis. She was married to the god Osiris. How Horus was conceived isn't suitable reading on a family friendly site like this one. Let's just say that Isis very much wasn't a virgin...



Massey also claimed that Horus was born on December 25th, but that's just not possible! The ancient Egyptian calendar didn't work like modern calendars. If you look at the date that's 'given' to Horus in that calendar, it would be sometime in the middle of our July - but would move about as the ancient Egyptian calendar didn't have leap years! The ancient Egyptian calendar simply couldn't and didn't have a date that would correspond with December 25th.



Claims like this have been made more recently in a couple of films and books. But in all of these cases, any 'evidence' has been cherry picked [and edited from within larger works] and none stand up to any real historical standards of evidence. Massey isn't even mentioned in books like the 'Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt'!



โ˜‘๏ธ Christmas Trees (and Yule Logs) started as Persian/Mesopotamian Idols

This is another one that started with Alexander Hislop...



He connected the word 'Yule' and the Iranian/Persian word 'Yalda' (a name in Iran/Persia for the winter solstice) because they sounded bit like each other.



The word 'Yule' only seems to date to around 300AD (so AFTER Christmas was already being celebrated) and there is NO EVIDENCE (either historical or etymological) that they are connected whatsoever - but this was one of Hislop's main arguments 'against' Christmas.



Also, the name 'Yalda' (which means 'birth') itself seems to have COME FROM early Christians who were by then celebrating Christmas around this time - NOT the other way around!!!



In The Two Babylons, Hislop claims that the Yule Log and then a tree sprouted from it were used as symbols of the death and reincarnation of Nimrod/Tammuz.



But again, there's ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘‰ NO HISTORICAL EVIDENCE for this!



NONE of the claims made in 'The Two Babylons' have ever been confirmed by any later historians or theologians.



Even just a few years after its publication it was thought to be rubbish by most scholars as the review in the 'Saturday Review' in 1858 said about the work "...we never before quite knew the folly of which ignorant or half-learned bigotry is capable."



However, it's still treated by some religious groups and also some 'out there' conspiracy theorists as 'historical fact', whereas it's nothing of the sort! (For instance David Icke, a big UK based conspiracy theorist, has used one of Hislop's main claims as a very important 'fact' in one of his books claiming that Reptilian lizards really secretly rule the earth...)





โ˜‘๏ธ Jeremiah 10 proves that Christmas Trees are Idols

Jeremiah is a book in the Jewish scriptures and the Christian Old Testament. Jeremiah 10:1-5 says:



Hear what the Lord says to you, people of Israel. This is what the Lord says: Do not learn the ways of the nations or be terrified by signs in the heavens, though the nations are terrified by them. For the practices of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. Like a scarecrow in a cucumber field, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good.

Jeremiah 10 clearly refers to trees which were being cut down and then carved and decorated, turning them into idols used in homes - not actual 'tree worship' or the decoration of trees like we have in Christmas Trees today!



Decorating trees first represented the Garden of Eden in 'Paradise Plays'. How we have trees now, might well have been popularised by Martin Luther and developed from there. Baubles on Christmas Trees started out as apples. Originally they were real apples - sometimes covered in gold. Then when glass decorations started being made, some of the first were glass apples!



And in Hosea 14:8 God even likens Himself to as an 'ever green tree' who all our 'fruit' comes from. So in this regard, you could even say that having a Christmas Tree can reminds us of God's provision in our lives!





โ˜‘๏ธ Santa is an anagram for Satan so it's a 'hidden' way of worshipping the devil

Well, yes Santa and Satan do have the same letter in them. However, Santa is also 'Saint' in Spanish.



The name Santa Claus comes from 'Saint' Nicholas, via 'Sinterklaas', so that's all there is to it - no hiddenness!



(An anagram of Saint Nicholas is 'In Action Slash' so I guess that makes it even worse...!)



โ˜‘๏ธ The Star of Bethlehem was created by Satan/The Devil

Some religious groups, such as the Jehovah's Witnesses, believe that the Star of Bethlehem was created by Satan/The Devil and they even refer to it as "Satan's Star". (Jehovah's Witnesses also don't celebrate Christmas now, although they did when they were first founded.)



Having the star being created by Satan has a few big problems with it.



Christians believe that God has ultimate power. If God didn't want the Star to be seen, he simply could have stopped any star from being created by Satan!

If Satan's purpose for the star was to have Jesus killed, why didn't Satan send the star directly to Herod or contact Herod by another means? Herod used many kinds of mediums and fortune telling. It would have been much easier to go directly to him, via occult methods, rather than via visitors (and the most educated people at the time) from several hundred miles away!

Several Old Testament prophecies talk about the Messiah being called 'out of Egypt' and children being killed. The gifts the Magi brought with them paid for the family's escape and time spent in Egypt. Thus fulfilling the prophecies and God's will. If Satan just wanted Jesus dead, using the Magi was a really bad idea and seriously back-fired!

Going straight to Herod, and telling him where Jesus was, would have been much simpler and would have avoided any outside influences from causes problems!

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Posted : 4 Dec, 2021 10:42 AM

" WHERE in Scripture does it say there is a 'separate rapture of the church' to those at his 'second coming' ?????????????????????????????????????????? SHOW US READERS laddy boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " Teddy bugs ๐Ÿ‘น๐Ÿ‘น



๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘ mmmmmmm ๐Ÿ†—



the pre-tribulation rapture position is Biblically correct. Even other references to the return of Jesus within 1-2 Thessalonians support this understanding:



ยท 1 Thessalonians 1:10 shows believers waiting for the return of Jesus. The clear implication is that they had hope of His imminent return, not the expectation of an imminent great tribulation.



ยท 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 assures us that those believers who died would share equally with the living in the events of the rapture and the resurrection, answering their fear that somehow the dead in Christ were at a disadvantage. But if Paul believed Christians would go through the great tribulation, he would count the dead in Christ as more fortunate than those living Christians who might very well have to endure the great tribulation. It would have been logical for Paul to comfort the Thessalonians with the idea that the dead in Jesus were better off because they wonโ€™t have to experience the Great Tribulation.



ยท 2 Thessalonians 1:3-10 comforts Christians enduring hardship, promising them a coming rest, while their persecutors will face certain judgment. But if Paul knew that the church was destined to pass through the Great Tribulation, it would have been more appropriate for him to warn these Christians about worse trials and suffering ahead, rather than hold the promise of a coming rest

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Posted : 4 Dec, 2021 01:03 PM

Thank you heaveniscallingrsvp for posting a coherent and fact filled summary of Christmas from a historical perspective.

Always kinda nice to read something other than a rambling incoherent post from the TeddyBug, (FlatEarthTeddyBug, that is).

Remember, the FlatEarthTeddyBug is the guy who seriously claims the Chinese and Australians must be walking upside down on the bottom of the earth if the earth is really soundโ€ผ๏ธโ€ผ๏ธโ€ผ๏ธโ€ผ๏ธ

YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS STUFF UPโ€ผ๏ธโ€ผ๏ธโ€ผ๏ธโ€ผ๏ธโ€ผ๏ธ

On the edge of TeddyBugโ€™s flat earth, facts donโ€™t matter.

In fact, if the facts donโ€™t fit his irrational mythological flat earth nonsense, he just dumps the facts and clings to his mythsโ€ผ๏ธโ€ผ๏ธโ€ผ๏ธ

The TeddyBug applies the exact same nonsense to nearly everything he believes as documented in his unintelligible post droppings

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