Author	Thread: Justification by Faith Evidence in Old Testament
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Justification by Faith Evidence in Old Testament Posted : 26 Aug, 2021 05:58 AM For if Abraham was justified by works he would have something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the scripture say? Abraham Believed God, and it was credited to him as Righteousness. Romans 4:2,3 Nasb Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Justification by Faith Evidence in Old Testament Posted : 26 Aug, 2021 06:02 AM Ephesians 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God. Not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	Justification by Faith Evidence in Old Testament Posted : 29 Aug, 2021 12:19 PM So what have we here in this misleading thread!? Moon trying to build her court case that there is no Law to keep, using Abraham as an excuse that supposedly kept no Torah Law and 'it was credited to him as Righteousness' according to Moon's CULT 'church' teaching because Moon refuses to study the Bible on her own! CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT, I keep telling you Moon but you will not listen! Moon, rsvp is calling you out and correcting you now in his above thread to yours here, so what do you think of that? HA! Its time for you to call rsvp all kinds of names now as he hides in his new thread and does not comment here, that he is a false teacher, like you claim Quiz and I are, right? Old PRIDEFUL Moon is once AGAIN being corrected and she is NOT liking it readers! LOL! Its ok Moon because like the thread Quiz started, ALL CULT denominations FIGHT over what is truth because like Quiz says they are NOT IN THE BIBLE as identified as YHWH's true Churches because they are CULTS in false doctrines!!! The uncontrolled by the Jesuits are the TRUE Churches in homes, small groups discovering REAL Biblical doctrine apart from the CULTS that do NOT keep YHWH's FULL TEN COMMANDMENTS! But back to Abraham who DID keep them by Faith! For what does the scripture say in its CONTEXT to the subject of Faith and WHAT follows which is certainly WORKS of Abraham afterward!? First of all was Abraham a Hebrew or Jew??? NOPE! So then according to rsvp he was not of a Jewish Nation and therefore never kept any Torah Law (which also includes the weekly HOLY and SANCIFIED Sabbath! ) and therefore by his 'faith' he just believed YHWH but kept none of His Torah Law! Is that true according to cultist rsvp? Lets post the verse RARELY given and left out of CONTEXT most every time by so called 'christians' (including Moon here) today, claiming faith with no WORKS to follow it, that mean anything toward PROVING FAITH! Genesis 26:5 'Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, >>>my commandments, my statutes, and my laws<<<. WOWSA! The three persons of the forum, that is the 'triads' and or 'trinity' teachers here of cultist rsvp, tinyfaithdavid and Mooncakes just got OWNED (corrected) by Scripture in truth that Abraham by FAITH OBEYED YHWH and kept all His Torah Law proven by his WORKS that followed his FAITH! >>>AND<<< Abraham was not even named ISRAEL yet, nor Jew!!! WOAH! same goes for Adam, Eve and family and many generations even up to Abraham, the father of many nations! So then Moon attempts once again to make her court case that 'works' plays no part in 'faith' and therefore its all just 'boasting' and useless??? For ONCE AGAIN she takes Scripture OUT OF CONTEXT! GEESH! Lets look at WHAT she CULTLY leaves out in CONTEXT! Read the FULL CONTEXT here! Ephesians 2:8-10 8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. So why would Mooncakes do that? To deceive readers in knowing that 'good works' comes from those that are truly Righteous by FAITH that Abraham was, that obeyed YHWH's voice, kept His charge, that is YHWH's >>>commandments, His statutes, and His laws!!!???<<< Correct? Wow! Quite the CULT teacher isn't she readers? Deliberately leaving out the context of verse 10 of righteous good works by FAITH of her above post but not only that, trying to say Abraham never proved his faith in keeping Torah Law!? REALLY??? Folks you just can't make this stuff up! right? So what did we learn here, for what does the scripture say? >>>Abraham Believed God, and it was credited to him as Righteousness<<< and GOOD WORKS FOLLOWED according to old testament Genesis 26:5 and new testament Romans 4:2,3 and Ephesians 2:8-10 IN CONTEXT to the subject of Righteousness by FAITH!!! Correct readers? Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Justification by Faith Evidence in Old Testament Posted : 29 Aug, 2021 01:53 PM Hugs You are posting stupidity as you often do! My thread is not in conflict with rsvp. Shows you don't you don't understand scripture. Seek Jesus for help and deliverance of your Self Pride. Get help! I study for myself. Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	Justification by Faith Evidence in Old Testament Posted : 29 Aug, 2021 03:32 PM Moon writes that her thread 'is not in conflict with rsvp' when its rsvp that is correcting one (Mooncakes) of the 'triads' and or 'trinity' teacher 'gods' of this forum above in his own thread. That was the purpose of rsvp in sneakily posting his thread to teach you without actually calling out one of the 'trinity' and or 'triad' 'gods' of the forum in her thread here! Would not be respectful to correct one of the 'gods' in front of readers, when she is always 'holy' as one of the 'trinity' of the forum, right? Mooncakes goes on to assume about Ted with no evidence - 'Shows you don't you don't understand scripture.' Speaking of NOT understanding Scripture , why Mooncakes did you leave out the context of Abraham that first believed YHWH and it was credited to him as Righteousness (Romans 4:2,3) and then by faith Abraham went on to obey YHWH's voice (His set apart Holy Spirit), and kept YHWH's Charge, YHWH's Commandments, YHWH's Statutes, and YHWH's Laws! (Genesis 26:5) Why not the CONTEXT Mooncakes? Instead you prove to readers you don't understand Scripture CONTEXT! Furthermore, why did you leave out the context of PAUL in Ephesians 2:8-10 but ONLY listed verses 8 and 9 which do not show how WORKS follows those believers that are 'ordained' by POWER from on high to live a sinless life NOW, TODAY, FOR TODAY is your salvation the Bible says! Why Mooncakes do you short change the context of Ephesians 2:8-10??? Are we able to 'walk in them' that is His WORKS when we are born again? Are we then His 'workmanship, created in Christ Yah'shua unto good works'??? AGAIN the CONTEXT! Ephesians 2:8-10 8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Justification by Faith Evidence in Old Testament Posted : 29 Aug, 2021 05:18 PM Once you seek the Lord Jesus for deliverance of your ignorance and Prideful Self, you can start learning the Truth of the Bible. You are definitely not under the guidance of Jesus, when you post. God doesn't Ike Ugly. Hugs Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Justification by Faith Evidence in Old Testament Posted : 29 Aug, 2021 05:20 PM Evidence is your ignorance and abusive name-calling posts . Post Reply
Quiznos View Profile History	Justification by Faith Evidence in Old Testament Posted : 29 Aug, 2021 06:49 PM @hugs, Hugs, when the Scriptures talk about ' good works' in Ephesians 2 verse 10, what do you believe the good works are. 10 For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life. Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	Justification by Faith Evidence in Old Testament Posted : 10 Sep, 2021 04:54 AM Not sure where you are going with your question Quiz. is not the Bible clear what works are, which is the >>>evidence<<< of our faith and obedience to YHWH the Father!? Correct? Works (Greek - ergon) - primary to work; toil; an act or action - deed, doing, doer, labour, work, worker! YHWH empowers us to do good works by His set apart Holy Spirit, for our works are NO GOOD in and just by ourselves! I want to be clear on that, that even our works (POWER!) comes from Him to do so! Would you agree? Philippians 2:12 (KJV) 'Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, >>>work<<< out your own salvation with fear and trembling.' James 1:22 But prove yourselves >>>doers<<< (WORKS!) of the word, and not merely hearers who delude themselves. And soooooo many more verses in the Bible for MORE context! Surely you don't believe 'works' is just about making a living and that is what Paul is teaching to the Ephesians in verse 10??? LOL! Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Justification by Faith Evidence in Old Testament Posted : 10 Sep, 2021 05:43 AM 2 Timothy 3:5 Holding to a forum of godliness, although they have denied it's power; Avoid such men as these . Nasb Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Justification by Faith Evidence in Old Testament Posted : 10 Sep, 2021 05:46 AM Hugs This scripture points to you above. Seek Christ fir a True understanding of His Word . You are ridiculously stupid in your Pridefull ignorance on Biblical. Post Reply

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