Thread: 🤪🤪 fix a flat fairy tales🧚 episode 22 -- 🤔🤔 the rapture delayed until the church is found without spot or wrinkle ❓
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🤪🤪 fix a flat fairy tales🧚 episode 22 -- 🤔🤔 the rapture delayed until the church is found without spot or wrinkle ❓
Posted : 19 Jul, 2021 09:50 AM
Posted : 18 Jul, 2021 07:28 AM
" Since the Bible is CLEAR the that Father YHWH will return for His SINLESS saints with His WORD, His ON', Himself in the form of flesh, sitting on His right hand side, then where is your 'god/gawd/gud' on His left hand side??? Is your 'Spirit' 'god/gawd/gud' to stay in heaven for such a big event as the resurrection of the SINLESS saints.
Note readers, he will have no answer! " -- fix a flat teddy
🤪🤪 fix a flat seems to think the rapture is a ways off. His reasoning is that Christ said He was coming back for a church without spot or wrinkle and the present day church is no where near that
In the first place, Jesus never made a statement like that. But to be free from spot or wrinkle means to be free from any and all sin, holy and blameless. The Church was made pure at the cross (Colossians 2:13-14) it’s the only way for sinful man to become so
👉👉 Paul used the phrase “without spot or wrinkle” to describe the Church in Ephes 5:25-27. He said The Lord gave Himself up for us to make us Holy and washed us in the water of His word to make us a radiant Church without spot or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. Notice it was the Lord who gave Himself up for us, and it was He who washed us to make us this way. He did it all
We’ve been given a righteousness apart from the Law that comes from God through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe (Romans 3:21-22). Apart from the Law means apart from our behavior.
However, to the man who does not work but trusts God, who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited to him as righteousness (Romans 4:5)
🤓🤓 Let's take a closer look
Ephesians 5: 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish
After the bride’s betrothal ceremony, she left her father’s house for the groom’s residence. Her entrance into the groom’s house was an event of splendor. In the case of Christ, the purpose of His saving work is a sanctified and cleansed church so that He might present her as a splendid church. The result was that He gained the church and individuals in the church for Himself.
27 that
The ultimate goal of Christ’s work was to present to Himself a splendid church. Christ purified the church that He might “present” her properly to Himself.
He might present her
Christ Himself is the one who makes the presentation of the church in eternity like a bridegroom presents his bride at a wedding (2 Co 11:2; Re 21:9-11).
to Himself
Jesus is at once both the Agent and the Object of presenting the church.
a glorious church
A “glorious church” comes from the fact that she is cleansed and set apart unto God. Jesus will present the church as a radiant bride to Himself. His bride will carry splendor in eternity ahead. Her glory is the glory of Christ and His work. The church is positionally clean now and will obtain the perfection of Christ Himself experientially later.
not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing,
The words “spot or wrinkle” come from the Old Testament sacrificial system. The lamb had to be sacrificed without blemish or spot. There are no defects in Jesus’ saving work. There is an inner beauty to the salvation He offers
The word “spot” occurs only here and 2 Peter 2:13. “Spot” is a metaphor for impurity.
This is the only place where the New Testament uses the word “wrinkle.” The idea of “wrinkle” is that the bride has no sign of age.
😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉 The church on earth today has many spots and wrinkles, but positionally she does not, and in eternity there will certainly be none.
but that she should be holy
“Holy” means set apart. Here it carries the idea of perfection. The church is spiritually set apart unto God. She is presently holy in a positional sense, and one day in eternity she will be set apart in an experiential sense.
and without blemish.
No one can find any fault with this bride. The idea of “without blemish” means unblamable or faultless.
PRINCIPLE:
The church is special and exclusive to Christ.
APPLICATION:
☑️☑️ ☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️☑️One day the Lord Jesus Christ will present the church to Himself at the wedding feast of the Lamb in all splendor. This will happen shortly after the rapture. The church will have been stripped of both the sin capacity and acts of sin. All Christians will receive their resurrection bodies. There will be no spot, stain, or growing old. The church will be completely set apart unto God, and no one will blame her for anything.
The church is the special object of Christ’s delight (Isa 62:5). She is a special joy to Him. Because of His saving work, He holds the church in special regard and high honor. To Him, she is “glorious,” a strikingly beautiful bride that He has set aside for Himself. What is true of the church collectively is true of her individual members. There is nothing that mars their spiritual beauty. Jesus holds a special love for her and those who belong to her
🤪🤪 So after reading this dear viewers do you think that the rapture will really be delayed because it's not perfect ❓❓
👹👹 But sinless perfectionists like fix a flat teddy seem to think so ❗
🤔🤔 So who we going to believe the bible or a heretic like fix a flat teddy ❓
2 Peter 1:16 "
For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty"
🤪🤪 fix a flat fairy tales🧚 episode 22 -- 🤔🤔 the rapture delayed until the church is found without spot or wrinkle ❓
Posted : 19 Jul, 2021 12:03 PM
Rapture Meaning - 1: an expression or manifestation of ecstasy or passion
2a: a state or experience of being carried away by overwhelming emotion
b: a mystical experience in which the spirit is exalted to a knowledge of divine things
3often capitalized : the final assumption of Christians into heaven during the end-time according to Christian theology
I believe the rapture explanation referred to by Christians is 2b above. Everybody is set on looking for external validation, when the Holy Spirit is given it all comes from inside.
🤪🤪 fix a flat fairy tales🧚 episode 22 -- 🤔🤔 the rapture delayed until the church is found without spot or wrinkle ❓
Posted : 19 Jul, 2021 03:39 PM
Marcouse.........
The Rapture (from the Latin ‘rapio’ to seize, to carry away) is the term used to describe the eschatological event where Christians are caught up into the heavens to meet the Lord Jesus. However, those who are alive and remain on the earth at the time of Christ’s return, will not proceed those who have died in Christ. This latter term “died in Christ” refers to those faithful Christians who have already passed away. They will be resurrected and join Christ in the heavens priorThe Rapture to those who are raptured. In other words, at Christ’s return, those who have died in the faith meet the Lord in the air, and then the Christians who are on earth are taken up into the heavens to meet Christ. The scripture used for this teaching is found in the writings of Paul.
1 Thess. 4:16:17, “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.”
John 14:1–3, “Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 “In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. 3 “If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.”
1 Corinthians 15:51–52, “Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed
🤪🤪 fix a flat fairy tales🧚 episode 22 -- 🤔🤔 the rapture delayed until the church is found without spot or wrinkle ❓
Posted : 19 Jul, 2021 07:10 PM
In the Word of GOD Almighty there is nothing called ' church '.
There is nothing called ' rapture '.
RSVP, look for the word ' rapture ' in the Scriptures, it is not there Why ?
The word ' harpadzo ' is in the Scriptures 13 times, not once is it used to mean rapture.
John 10 verses 25 - 30
25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in the name of My Father, these bear witness concerning Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not from among My sheep. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and never shall they perish to the age, and never will anyone seize ( HARPADZO ) them out of My hand. 29 My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all, and no one is able to seize ( HARPADZO ) them out of the Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
Acts 8 verses 36 - 40
36 And as they were going along the road they came upon some water, and the eunuch says, “Behold, water! What prevents me to be baptized?”b 38 And he commanded the chariot to stop. And they both went down to the water, both Philip and the eunuch, and he baptized him.
39 Now when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord carried away ( HARPADZO )Philip, and the eunuch saw him no longer. For he went his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus, and passing through, he was proclaiming the gospel to all the towns until his coming to Caesarea.
RSVP, you and Dave need to stop reading what men say about the Word and read the Word for yourselves.
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Posted : 19 Jul, 2021 08:14 PM
" In the Word of GOD Almighty there is nothing called ' church '.
There is nothing called ' rapture '.
RSVP, look for the word ' rapture ' in the Scriptures, it is not there Why ?
The word ' harpadzo ' is in the Scriptures 13 times, not once is it used to mean rapture. "
ANSWER 🙂🙂👉👉
it is illogical to claim that since the words rapture is not found in the Bible, that its concept is not taught therein. This kind of objection usually demonstrates a prejudice against the teaching of the rapture. Instead, the person should look to God’s word to see if it is taught or not
Second, there are many biblical concepts that people believe in that don’t have a specific word describing them used in the Bible. For example, the word “Bible” is not found in the Bible, but we use it anyway to describe the Bible. Likewise, “omniscience” which means “all-knowing,” “omnipotence” which means “all-powerful,” and “omnipresence” which means “present everywhere,” are words not found in the Bible either, but we use them to describe the attributes of God. We don’t have to see a specific word in the Bible in order for the concept it describes to be true. Why should this be any different for the word “ rapture” and the concept that it represents?
The following are other words that the Bible does not use, but the concepts are mentioned:
☑️Atheism is the teaching that there is no God. “The fool has said in his heart, ‘There is no God'” (Psalm 14:1).(see atheism)
Divinity which means divine quality or godlike character. Yet, we speak of the godlike quality of the Lord God. See Psalm 139.
☑️Incarnation which means the word (God) who became flesh. Yet, this is definitely taught in the Bible (John 1:1, 14).
☑️Monotheism is the teaching that there is only one God (Isaiah 43:10; 44:8).
☑️☑️☑️☑️👉☑️☑️👉 Rapture is the teaching that the Christians who are alive when Jesus returns will be caught up to meet Him in the air (1 Thess. 4:16-18).
🙂😉
So, to say that the rapture isn’t true because the word “rapture” isn’t in the Bible is an invalid argument
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Posted : 19 Jul, 2021 08:36 PM
" The word ' harpadzo ' is in the Scriptures 13 times, not once is it used to mean rapture.
John 10 verses 25 - 30 "
ANSWER 🙂🙂👉👉 this is a terrible counter argument 👎👎❗ these verses have nothing to do about the rapture
the word rapture is properly used of that event. Rapture is a state or experience of being carried away. The English word comes from a Latin word, rapio, which means to seize or snatch in relation to an ecstasy of spirit or the actual removal from one place to another. In other words, it means to be carried away in spirit or in body. The Rapture of the church means the carrying away of the church from earth to heaven
The Greek word from this term “rapture” is derived appears in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, translated “caught up.” The Latin translation of this verse used the word rapturo. The Greek word it translates is harpazo, which means to snatch or take away. Elsewhere it is used to describe how the Spirit caught up Philip near Gaza and brought him to Caesarea (Acts 8:39) and to describe Paul’s experience of being caught up into the third heaven (2 Cor. 12:2-4). Thus there can be no doubt that the word is used in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 to indicate the actual removal of people from earth to heaven.
🙂😉👉👉 Anybody who knows their Bible knows that the rapture is based on ANCIENT JEWISH WEDDING CUSTOMS & JESUS CHRIST, HIS BRIDE, THE CHURCH and typologies
See the correlation between these customs and the Rapture.
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Posted : 19 Jul, 2021 08:48 PM
" RSVP, you and Dave need to stop reading what men say about the Word and read the Word for yourselves.
By the way, Calvanism is not the Gospel "
ANSWER 🙂🙂👉👉 apparently you are biblically eschatologically ignorant ❗ and should not worry about brother David and myself but rather you should do as a Bible says and let the Holy Spirit teach you so that you do not make any more foolish illogical assertions
John 14:26 " But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you "
finally 🙂😉 I never said I was a calvinist ; once again you are creating the logical fallacy of appealing to ignorance
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Posted : 20 Jul, 2021 05:08 AM
@RSVP
1 Thessalonians 4 verses 13-18
13 But we do not want you to be ignorant, brothers, concerning those having fallen asleep, so that you should not be grieved, just as also the rest, those having no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with Him those having fallen asleep.
15 For this we declare to you in the word of the Lord, that we the living, remaining unto the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those having fallen asleep, 16 because the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we, the living remaining, will be caught away together with them in the clouds for the meeting of the Lord in the air; and so we will be always with the Lord.
18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
This is to encourage people that they will see the people they had known that are believers, the ones that left this life.
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Posted : 20 Jul, 2021 06:37 AM
1 Timothy 4:1
But the Spirit explicitly says that in the later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons.
