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fix a flat teddy fairy tales episode 5 -- frère teddy, frère teddy, dormez vous? dormez vous? THE FALSE DOCTRINE OF SOUL SLEEP EXPOSED
Posted : 15 Apr, 2021 09:07 AM
brother teddy brother teddy are you sleeping are you sleeping? People you can't make this stuff up ! tisk tisk tisk
fix a flat feddy who ironically seems to be pulling graveyard shifts here on the forum is trying to convince you the readers of the false doctrine of soul sleep in his quote below, but then again this is the same Fix-A-Flat Teddy who has Chinese and Australian people walking upside down
" BY THE CONTEXT of the rest of the Bible on the state of the dead on WHEN DEAD persons actually GO TO HEAVEN, which of course is ALWAYS on resurrection day! The Messiah was simply assuring x-thief (forgiven now) WILL BE in heaven at resurrection day on the day He was speaking to him before his death! You see TIME stops for the x-thief when he dies and sleeps unconsciously in hell the grave awaiting resurrection day! Its so simple! "
SO LET'S DEBUNK THIS MESS SHALL WE ?
Luke 23:42-43, The thief with Jesus in the afterlife the day of his death
“And he was saying, ‘Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!’ 43 And He said to him, ‘Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise,'” (Luke 23:42–43).
The majority of the conditionalists hold to the doctrine called soul sleep which is the vague doctrine that a person is unconscious after death. Other conditionalists hold to the idea that when the human physically dies, he ceases to have life. Please consider the following quotes.
“soul sleep,” the view that death is a state of total unconsciousness, rather than survival in heaven, hell, or purgatory.”
“When death occurs, then it is the soul that is deprived of life. Death cannot strike the body or any other part of the soul without striking the entirety of the soul.”
In light of this, Luke 23:42-43 is important because it is where the thief is being crucified with Christ, and Jesus says to him, “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with me in paradise.” The implication of Christ’s words is that the thief, upon his death, would be with Jesus in Paradise. This supports the idea that very soon both of them would be together. And, it stands in contradiction to fix a flat Teddy's false view that the human soul is deprived of life upon death. Nevertheless, one conditionalist response is to focus on a single ‘,’. That’s right, a comma.
“, today” ‘Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.'”
“today, ” ‘Truly I say to you today, you shall be with Me in Paradise.'”
NWT (Jehovah’s Witness CULT Bible)
On line 1 Jesus is saying that the thief and he would be together that very day in Paradise. On line 2, the interpretation is that Jesus was saying those words that very day. In other words, it as though Jesus was saying, “I’m telling you this right now, today, right now I’m telling you that you will be with me in Paradise…” Now, the latter approach is the same as the Jehovah’s Witnesses, a non-Christian cult. But, this in no way means that conditionalists are not Christians just because some of them happen to use the same argument as the JW’s who also are annihilationists. The point is that the translations show the English to represent line 1, not line 2, and this effects interpretation.
provided below a small table listing of different Greek texts. You don’t have to understand Greek to make sense of this. λέγω (lego) is Greek for “I say” and σήμερον (sameron) is Greek for “today.” You’ll notice that the second Greek text does not have a comma in it.
Luke 23:42-43 is where Jesus speaks to the thief on the cross who is next to him and says that the thief would be with Him in paradise that very day. At the very least, this refutes the conditionalist idea that the person who dies ceases to have life in his soul Also, the words of Christ challenge the weak notion of soul sleep imposed into this Scripture by the conditionalists
finally, when we see that there are other verses in the Bible that speak of consciousness after death such as Samuel (1 Sam. 28:11-19). Moses and Elijah (Matt. 17:2-4), Lazarus and Rich man (Luke 16:19-31), Paul (2 Cor. 12:2), the saints (Rev. 6:10), we can easily conclude that Jesus was saying that the thief would be with him, conscious, in paradise shortly after both of them died
poor fix a flat teddy not only do we need to pump some air into his flat Earth but also into his flat false soul sleep theology
fix a flat teddy fairy tales episode 5 -- frère teddy, frère teddy, dormez vous? dormez vous? THE FALSE DOCTRINE OF SOUL SLEEP EXPOSED
Posted : 15 Apr, 2021 10:54 AM
Thanks RSVP for doing the work of Jesus, the Apostles and the Prophets who continually exposed false teachings in their letters and teachings.
Sadly too many “Christians” who hardly bother to consider God’s Word as important enough even to look at, never seem take note of the Apostles work in this regard. In fact, the work of exposing false teaching is an entirely new concept that is foreign to them
fix a flat teddy fairy tales episode 5 -- frère teddy, frère teddy, dormez vous? dormez vous? THE FALSE DOCTRINE OF SOUL SLEEP EXPOSED
Posted : 16 Apr, 2021 06:35 AM
Fellow CULT teacher David posts - "Thanks RSVP for doing the work of Jesus, the Apostles and the Prophets who continually exposed false teachings in their letters and teachings.
Yeah dear readers, David cannot even do a Bible study without an ARTICLE to do his speaking for him! LOL! He is clueless to make his point and support his false teaching 'friend' and fellow CULTIST that got OWNED (corrected) in 'episode 4' of rsvp's ACTUAL 'fairy tales' in false CULT teaching in taking Paul out of context to his letter to the Galatians I exposed rsvp in that thread! rsvp does not have a clue Paul is talking about the LEGALISIM of CIRCUMCISION to Gentile converts and had NOTHING to do with the weekly Sabbath as false teacher rsvp implies!
So here is another mess thread that needs straightened out when I have time! Not to worry readers, with time I will embarrASS rsvp once again and his false doctrine! Stay tuned!
In short for now, note how rsvp leaves out the CEB that correctly states WITHOUT the UNINSPIRED comma - Jesus replied, “I assure you that today you will be with me in paradise.” >AND second witness< the (GNT) that ALSO correctly states WITHOUT the UNINSPIRED comma - Jesus said to him, “I promise you that today you will be in Paradise with me.”!!!
Another words the Messiah that DIED the same day as the x-thief, THAT DID NOT come out of 'hell' (the grave!) until the THIRD DAY, is saying - I’m telling you this right now today, cleansed and PERFECT sinless x-thief (forgiven now), right now I’m telling you that you will be with me in Paradise come resurrection day!
And these are only a few examples of corrections to the KJV, as well as MANY others like the ESV, ISV, LEB, NASB, NCV, NET, NIV, NRSV, RSV, YLT, etc.! When you remove the 'punctuation error' like the CEB and GNT does, then it makes it clear BY THE CONTEXT of the rest of the Bible on the state of the dead on WHEN DEAD (yes really DEAD that rsvp says they are not?) persons actually GO TO HEAVEN, which of course is ALWAYS on resurrection day! The Messiah was simply assuring x-thief (forgiven now) WILL BE in heaven at resurrection day on the day He was speaking to him before his death! You see TIME stops for the x-thief when he dies and sleeps unconsciously in hell the grave awaiting resurrection day! Its so simple!
FOLKS YOU JUST CANT MAKE THIS STUFF UP like the CULT false teacher that rsvp is‼️ Warning readers, rsvp is a spirtualist/soulist in CULT teaching!
fix a flat teddy fairy tales episode 5 -- frère teddy, frère teddy, dormez vous? dormez vous? THE FALSE DOCTRINE OF SOUL SLEEP EXPOSED
Posted : 16 Apr, 2021 07:37 PM
TeddyBug, I’m so sorry the articles I post are more sophisticated than you’ve been treated to by your leader. Maybe you ought to introduce her to my posts.
It’s getting to the point I hardly have to refute anything the TeddyBug claims because nonsense doesn’t really need to be refuted, you just call what it is.
The TeddyBug’s posts have been a PRICELESS and colorful cornucopia of scrambled flapdoodle that would be hysterically comical in any other venue.
But more importantly, Teddy’s posts unwittingly vindicate, in one form or another, nearly everything I’ve posted about his unguarded gullibility and his eagerness to embrace the type of counterfeit beliefs handed down to him from his leader.
fix a flat teddy fairy tales episode 5 -- frère teddy, frère teddy, dormez vous? dormez vous? THE FALSE DOCTRINE OF SOUL SLEEP EXPOSED
Posted : 17 Apr, 2021 12:22 AM
The value of articles, and their "knowledge"
Strife or charity, who will be edified:
1 Corinthians 8:1 Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
Proverbs 20:3 It is an honour for a man to cease from strife: but every fool will be meddling.
Does discussion of the thief who never sees death because of having the living God inside of him, give somebody else salvation / No, but they discuss it anyway.
Does discussion of Christ in hell or Heaven give the way for the strife makers ? No, because Jesus overcame this world, and we have yet to do the same.
LOL! 
rsvp does not have a clue Paul is talking about the LEGALISIM of CIRCUMCISION to Gentile converts and had NOTHING to do with the weekly Sabbath as false teacher rsvp implies! 
Not to worry readers, with time I will embarrASS rsvp once again and his false doctrine! 
