Thread: Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
Posted : 8 Apr, 2021 12:59 AM
The disciples of Jesus wanted to cast fire down on the Samaritans, as the prophet of God did, but Jesus rebuked them, saying they did not know what spirit they were of.
Jesus shows how He came to save, not destroy ( the mission is different with the mercy and meekness of the Son...
Luke 9:52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.
53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.
54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.
The Pharisees wanted to stone after the law of Moses, Jesus answered the people who have hatred in the heart and not love, how they also do not know how wicked they are being, and could not condemn, and Jesus gave the correct way, to go and sin no more to the woman ( the Pharisees yet in their sins and hatred)...
Matthew 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
1 John 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
1 John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
John 8:4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
The Pharisees confused how Jesus sits with sinners, are told Jesus came to call sinners to repentance...
Mark 2:16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Then we see how the High priest became us, to be undefiled and separate from sinners..
Hebrews 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;
This is for the conversion, and to be after the Spirit, as carnal and sinning is death, repentance is life, to have our body dead becauise of sin, and now the Spirit is life because of righteousness...
Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
This is the feast of sincerity with Christ, not accompanying with the unrighteous, the drunkards and NOT TO EAT WITH THEM, DESCRIBED AS WICKED BROTHERS..
1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
Posted : 8 Apr, 2021 05:43 AM
1John 1:10
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
Posted : 8 Apr, 2021 05:46 AM
No man is completely sinless in his flesh .
You won't be sinless til you make it to Heaven with your new perfected Body given by God Himself.
Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
Posted : 8 Apr, 2021 05:49 AM
Mankind couid not keep the Law.
That's why Jesus died for All our Sins in full.
🛑 Stop posting sinless protectionism, it's Not Biblical.
Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
Posted : 8 Apr, 2021 08:50 AM
Adam, the Lord’s Prayer is a daily prayer which includes confession of sin because we still have a sin nature that is not sinless and perfect.
Even though true Christians long to be totally free from their sin nature it will remains with them until they die. The sin nature is always trying to get believers to yield to its evil desires.
People who are honest enough to recognize the strong pull of their sin nature do not teach that it’s ok to keep sinning as Adam continues to falsely accuse them.
BUT every time Adam falsely accuses and teaches sinless perfectionism falsehoods, he is merely expressing his gargantuan sin nature each and every day for all to see! So, Adam proves his sin nature is alive and well regardless how often he tries to deny it.
Bearing false witness IS A SIN. It’s just one of the many sins Adam commits but doesn’t know it
Adam sins against the Holy Spirit and against those of whom the Holy Spirit convicts each day of sin. The work of the Holy Spirit is to convict his saints of sin so that the saints (the people of God) can confess and forsake sin.
The Holy Spirit cannot convict Sinless Perfectionism heretics of their sin because sinless perfectionism heretics falsely believe that sin is no longer a part of their sin nature‼️‼️🙄
Thus, sinless perfectionism heretics cannot be lead by the Holy Spirit into salvation or spiritual maturity until they humble themselves and repent.
This is because sinless perfectionism heretics have been deceived by Satan into believing they are already perfect.
Sadly the Holy Spirit cannot do his work of perfecting them because sinless perfectionism heretics think they’re already perfect‼️
In the meantime, the spiritually mature people of God, his saints, are being trained by the Holy Spirit to know the difference between sin and righteousness.
Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
Posted : 9 Apr, 2021 12:00 AM
Yes you know a verse that says to confess the sins and be cleansed of all unrighteousness.
Also you knew a verse that says, the one born of God does not practice sin.
Now you think, nobody can keep the law of Christ, which also means you think nobody is born again, and that born again is to not love in the way God showed and says.
This is how it is testified anyway, the ones who do not love their brother, by doing unrighteousness against them, are not of God...
1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
Being born of God means we love, the ones who love not, do not know God, for God is love...
1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
Confess not loving your neighbour, and confess you cant help sin against them, and cannot love by keeping the law all of the time? Did you see that in the Holy bible somewhere ?
Love works no ill to our neighbour, this is why all the law is fulfilled in loving our neighbour as ourselves, how the deceiver is speechless next to the testimony of Christ..
Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
Posted : 9 Apr, 2021 06:25 AM
Adam might want to seriously consider the Bible verses he copies and pastes, especially the one quoted in his thread title
