God is love, what do the deceivers show is the love of the truth ?
Posted : 28 Mar, 2021 01:58 PM
The deceptive message in this ending of the world is simple, it says, nobody can keep all the commandments of Christ all the time, it says asking forgiveness is the key, it says being free of sin is false.
With that in mind, lets take a journey into love.
The first to understand is love, is in the Spirit, or we have no love, man has no love, God is love...
Colossians 1:8 Who also declared unto us your love in the Spirit.
There are certain verses for the ending of the world and why people will be damned.
Before the souls are purified, the prayer was to ask for forgiveness daily. When the soul can obey the truth, ( through the Spirit as told) they can then love one another with a pure heart ( (purified in believing in the risen Lord)..
1 Peter 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
Put that in contrast with the liars, they are damned by not believing the truth ) obeying the truth is believing the truth ) and they obey unrighteousness as they have pleasure in the unrighteousness/sin, and receive the wrath of God...
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Romans 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
These are the testimonies the Lord gives about them for the ending of all things now, ( on top of denying the testimonies, they try to invent future signs of Heaven to look out for, so we do not see what is already fulfilled in these deniers)
How they love their own selves, are proud and disobedient.
How they love the wages of unrighteousness, when do they ever say to do righteousness and stop sinning ?
2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2 Peter 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
God has given us the Spirit, but of love, what changes and what does it mean to not be given fear ?
2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
That love given into us is perfected in us ( don't tell me the denier of Christ denies those testimonies too ?)
Then they must also deny that Christ dwells in us now, by finding fault with the Lords testimonies of His love being perfected in us now ?
1 John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
The reason the love of God is perfected in us, is for judgement day, not giving us the Spirit of fear but of love, to overcome the world as Christ overcame, and the ones not given the Spirit are not made perfect in love as they declare of themselves..
1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
We are preserved when we love God, and the ones who love God get the inherited substance, and the ones who hate the Lord ( the disobedient) love death...
Psalm 145:20 The Lord preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy.
Proverbs 8:17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
Proverbs 8:21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
Proverbs 8:35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord.
36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
The Love of God covers all sins, as God seeks love by covering our transgressions, but the men who repeat them separate from that friendship, as we do not prosper by a cover up, but by turning away from the sins is told..
Proverbs 10:12 Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.
Proverbs 17:9 He that covereth a transgression seeketh love; but he that repeateth a matter separateth very friends.
Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
The requirement of God is the greatest love, the prayer for thy Kingdom to come is for that love to come to us to do the requirements..
Matthew 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
Eye had not seen, or ear heard, until the Spirit was given to reveal all to us to see with, to know the deep things of God ( to know and do all now ) for them that love God.
Christ taught to us who can hear ( when the Spirit given when Christ was risen ) to do more good than the sinners, to be made the children of God..
1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
Luke 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
Luke 6:32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
Luke 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
The ones who do not love God do not keep any of His ways, they even deny we can walk as Jesus walked, even though that is the testimony of how the Son abode in the Fathers love, and how we abide in His love by keeping ALWAYS, and not as the lovers of their own selves do, always what pleases themselves.
The testimony also is, the same love of the Father is in us, by the name ( of love ) the Son declared to us.
The name of God declared and perceived by us, is the laying down of His life for us and we show we believe and know when we lay our lives down too, or we show we heard nothing and understood nothing..
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
John 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.
1 John 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
The most the false ones omit, is as if there is no new covenant, and as if it does nothing as God says it will do.
But the heart will be changed in this new covenant of Christ, to love God and our neighbour with all of our heart and soul, so that we can live as God says.
Thessalonians confirms the Lord is this way directing our hearts into knowing His love ( love works no ill to our neighbour)
Deuteronomy 30:6 And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
2 Thessalonians 3:5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.
How do they speak of Christ when He is the new covenant ?
This is the Lord putting Christ ( the law of Christ ) into our minds and hearts...
Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
That law of Christ ( Christ fulfilling all in us) to love one another, written in us ( the ones it is written in ) to love their neighbour sincerely as themselves ( always cherishing is what they do for themselves )..
Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Remembering the strange contrast as the deceiver in the ending times, Gods adopted children, are holy without blame in Gods love, far from the professed example of disobedience, of uncleanness, covetousness, which is darkness compared to the called children of light now..
Ephesians 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
Not only we do walk as Christ, we are testified to also know the same love of Christ, to be filled with the fulness of God, knowing the truth in love, is grown up to Christ, immediately abounding in the love of God to be sincere ( in love which is to be without offence ( they still pray forgive for our offences ?)
Ephesians 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
Ephesians 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Philippians 1:9 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;
10 That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be SINCERE AND WITHOUT OFFENCE till the day of Christ.
Another last one they are revealed as avoiding, is being born again, as it is a complete change, not a partial one and born again clearly is not after death and in Heaven only ?
Keeping the commandment of God ( He is love ) to love, is BELIEVING IN CHRIST ( they say all you need to do is believe , well this is the way testified, and any time we cannot love we are not born again nor the children of God, because little children do not hate..
1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
1 John 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
God is love, what do the deceivers show is the love of the truth ?
Posted : 28 Mar, 2021 10:16 PM
Looks like Adam has decided to double down on his sinless perfectionism heresy. I thought Adam was interested is discussing rather accusing but I guess not.
Adam says he’s not perfect but has returned to preaching the false doctrine of sinless perfectionism anyway.
Sinless perfectionism advocates teach a sorta sinless perfectionism while claiming at the same time they aren’t really perfect because they “make mistakes”.
Let’s repeat that. Sinless perfectionism heretics claim they no longer sin like everyone else, they just make occasional “mistakes”.
God is love, what do the deceivers show is the love of the truth ?
Posted : 29 Mar, 2021 10:56 AM
Many good comments about the thread, must be using invisible ink
If the mockers of this life were the judges on judgement day, they would allow all the impure into Heaven, being themselves.
God judges who is worthy of Him on judgment day, many verses are included for that judgment, the deceivers love every one of the righteous teachings of the Lord, because they can ignore then and have more to feast with.
God is love, what do the deceivers show is the love of the truth ?
Posted : 29 Mar, 2021 11:06 AM
The Lamb had to be worthy, how false they claim we do not have to be worthy of the Lord..
Matthew 10:13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.
Matthew 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
Matthew 10:38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
Luke 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Colossians 1:10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;
1 Thessalonians 2:12 That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.
2 Thessalonians 1:5 Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:
2 Thessalonians 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:
Revelation 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
Christ is worthy, we must be or they cannot acknowledge a single thing?
Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Revelation 5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
Hebrews 3:3 For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honour than the house.
God is love, what do the deceivers show is the love of the truth ?
Posted : 29 Mar, 2021 12:41 PM
Adam you can’t enter Heaven based on your own self-proclaimed sinless perfectionism—sorry it doesn’t work that way. Only Jesus’ perfection will get you into heaven
God is love, what do the deceivers show is the love of the truth ?
Posted : 30 Mar, 2021 04:45 AM
Faith is in being worthy, what faith do you think people have that is in unrighteousness, go and see satan for that, as Christ is not your minister of that man of sin...
Galatians 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
The deceivers try to deceive, but let none of them deceive you is told well.
God is love, what do the deceivers show is the love of the truth ?
Posted : 30 Mar, 2021 03:31 PM
Adam, just because other people are honest enough to admit they are not sinless like Jesus doesn’t mean they approve or love sinning.
You think after salvation the sinful nature is immediately as perfect as Jesus, you need to get rid of that silly unbiblical idea because your sinful nature is NOT as perfect as Jesus, your posts go along ways in proving that one!
