Thread: opaaa! It's all greek to me -- so dance with a gyro in your hand
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opaaa! It's all greek to me -- so dance with a gyro in your hand
Posted : 22 Feb, 2021 01:33 PM
Perichoresis is a Greek word used to describe the binding of the Trinity, the two natures of Jesus Christ, and God's omnipresence
nothing can divide the three members of the Trinity—the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. People sometimes struggle to understand the combined Godhead and identity—and rightly so, as it is a mystery. However, the word perichoresis can help us understand. The word itself comes from the Greek peri, meaning "around," and chorein, meaning "to give way" or "to make room."
Perichoresis could be translated as "rotation" or "going around." Some scholars picture this as a sort of choreographed dance. All members of the dance move as one, precisely and fluidly, to create a meaningful work together
opaaa! It's all greek to me -- so dance with a gyro in your hand
Posted : 23 Feb, 2021 01:18 AM
"Some scholars picture this as a sort of choreographed dance. All members of the dance move as one, precisely and fluidly, to create a meaningful work together"
To overcome the world, is to believe in this, focus on this, consider this only, that Jesus is the Son of God. This is who He is, (GOD) this is who to believe in. On top of that, all authority and focus is given into the Sons hands, to honour the Son even as the Father..
This also as testified, is us believing on the Father, as that is the mystery of God, to ESCAPE THE CONDEMNATION and TO PASS ONTO LIFE.
These three bear witness, and it is told why, as these three are ONE..
Also it is of interest to know, the deceiver antichrist denies all of this, which as testified is denying Christ came in the flesh and returned to the spirit..
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
Receive the witness of God, it is greater than the witness of men ( the devil deceiver ) God testifies of the SON, as ETERNAL LIFE COMES THROUGH THE SON ( the deceiver takes focus off GOD being the SON) but this is the RECORD GOD GAVE THE LIFE IN THE SON...
1 John 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and THIS LIFE IS IN HIS SON.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall NOT COME INTO CONDEMNATION; but IS PASSED FROM DEATH UNTO LIFE.
We notice, the antichrist deceivers words are NOT THE TESTIMONY OF GOD, which is, God the Son, seen in the flesh, to justify Him in the Spirit, to be preached to the world to believe in, to be received up into glory..
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is THE MYSTERY OF GODLINESS: God was MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, RECEIVED UP INTO GLORY.
Understand with me then, if you can, that US, is God, and God is the SPIRIT, ONE SPIRIT, ONE LORD, ONE SHEPHERD, and WE also, become ONE with the Father and with the Son, ( who are that ONE SPIRIT AND ONE LORD)..
John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in US: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even AS WE ARE ONE:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Ephesians 4:5-6 ONE LORD, one faith, one baptism, ONE GOD and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and IN YOU ALL.
John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and ONE SHEPHERD.
Psalm 23:1 THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD; I shall not want.
Revelation 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but THE THRONE OF GOD AND OF THE LAMB shall be in it; and HIS SERVANTS SHALL SERVE HIM: (ONE GOD NOT THREE, AND WHO IS YOUR ONE LORD AND SHEPHERD?)
opaaa! It's all greek to me -- so dance with a gyro in your hand
Posted : 27 Feb, 2021 07:15 AM
you seem to have a problem with a simple choreographed poetic analogy in regards to the trinity so let's use some more scientific analogies shall we?
When a painter paints a picture, what is in him is reflected in the painting he produces. When a sculptor creates a work of art, it is from his heart and mind that the source of the sculpture is born. The work is shaped by his creative ability. The creators of art leave their marks–something that is their own and something that reflects what they are. Is this the same with God? Has God left His fingerprints on creation? Of course, He has.
Creation
Basically, the universe consists of three elements: Time, Space, and Matter. Each of these is comprised of three ‘components.’
Time Past Present Future
Space Height Width Depth
Matter Solid Liquid Gas
TIME SPACE MATTER
Graphic of trinities: time, space, matter, trinity
As the Trinitarian doctrine maintains, each of the persons of the Godhead is distinct; yet they are all each, by nature, God.
With time, for example, the past is distinct from the present, which is distinct from the future. Each is simultaneous, yet they are not three ‘times’ but one. That is, they all share the same nature: time.
With space, height is distinct from width, which is distinct from depth, which is distinct from height. Yet, they are not three ‘spaces’ but one. That is, they all share the same nature: space.
With matter, solid is not the same as liquid, which is not the same as gas, which is not the same as solid. Yet, they are not three ‘matters’ but one. That is, they all share the same nature: matter.
note that there are three sets of threes. In other words, there is a trinity of trinities. If we were to look at the universe and notice these qualities within it, is it fair to say that these are the fingerprints of God upon His creation? I think so. Not only is this simply an observation but also it is a good source for an analogy of the Trinity
opaaa! It's all greek to me -- so dance with a gyro in your hand
Posted : 27 Feb, 2021 10:35 AM
There is one name of God that is above every name, that name alone is exalted, it is the one and only Jesus Christ
Psalm 148:13 Let them praise the name of the Lord: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven.
Ephesians 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
